Placebo 29 Posted July 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOOK WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO YOU<span id='postcolor'> Who are the "THEY"? Mister Frag, you're old enough and ugly enough to know better than that, please refrain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted July 10, 2002 "They" are the far left media old women who try to brainwash people with their stupid little "specials" which are compareable to Fox's "Did we land on the moon?" stunt. I forgot what her name was, Chung? Chong? The old lady that started it. Listen to her program start. "Brutal police beating -- CAUGHT ON TAPE! Watch a bunch of white officers brutally beat a young man -- AND HIS ONLY CRIME IS BEING BLACK! Tonight!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted July 10, 2002 Apparently Donovan Jackson is a special education student with a developmental handicap. The prosecutors are not using this as a defense, they haven't even gotten involved yet. In fact, the attorney hired by the family is using this as an explanation for the boy's actions. When you say, and I quote, ""developmentally disabled" (read: dumbass)", you make a blanket statement. This is terribly inappropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted July 10, 2002 If indeed he is mentally handicapped, I apoligize, I did not mean to call them "dumbasses," however, it was really a dumbass move. Being mentally handicapped is not an explaination for swinging at an officer, no matter what the circumstance. And I'll bet you a 100 that the lawyers use that as a defence for his actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted July 10, 2002 Given a sufficient level of handicap, Donovan Jackson might not have understood the consequences of his actions, so while it wouldn't excuse his actions, it could explain them, and even relieve him of legal responsibility for them. Likewise, Officer Moore might not have known about or been trained to recognize the boys condition, which likely also would have changed his behavior. When we see an adult or teenager, we instinctively assume a certain level of education and experience. However, that same individual could well have the mind of a three-year old child, or worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted July 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ July 09 2002,21:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The way I see it if you fight/struggle/resist arrest you deserve anything you've got coming to you.<span id='postcolor'> Then the they in turn deserve anything coming to them The world isnt in black and white,law enforcement authorities aren`t all good and true and criminals aren`t all evil ppl out to cause trouble. normaly id say that the cops should be beaten to a pulp by the locals armed with sticks but then id be contradicting myself with the above. The video footage is inconclusive from what ive seen and it seems the medias putting a bit of spin on it,funny though how some ppl choose what they want and dont want to think regarding bullshit at times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted July 11, 2002 And now the lawyer for the family is going to milk it for all it is worth -- he already said that this is a seven-figure case. Of course he'll claim that it isn't about the money, but principles, but if that were the case, he'd handle the case on a pro bono basis, and not take a huge chunk of the settlement. You know what Shakespeare wrote about lawyers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted July 11, 2002 yeah well lawyers are lawyers there was a case a year or so back where some kid and another guy got shot at, i cant remember the exact circumstances, by this farmer after they got caught burgling his farm. One of them dies from injuries and the farmer gets jailed. Now the accomplice is going after the farmer for damages or something like it,common trouble maker with reasnoble knowledge of those kind of legal proceedings i think not. Then again theres many types of ppl like that,bent cops and bent newsreporting come to mind .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted July 11, 2002 http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/11/police.beating.radio/index.html It isn't exactly good when people fear the police and the courts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted July 11, 2002 Well I guess none of the people involved are angels. Neither the police nor the guy they catched. This whole thing is only serving the press catering to the black community. THis is more a campaign than an incident! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted July 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL shows how observant you are, I changed it weeks if not months ago when you expressed a desire for a member title in the thread in OT. <span id='postcolor'> Lol placebo, it shows how observant YOU are! You changed it to "PUBLIC envenomation" months ago in this thread. Now someone has changed it to "PUBIC envenomation" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 11, 2002 Ehh? No it always was pubic, why would I have gone with public? That's not even funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted July 11, 2002 Really? Wow, i could have sworn that it was public before  Never mind then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted July 12, 2002 it was 'public', not 'pubic'. anyway, in relation to topic, the officer now alledges that even while handcuffed, Donovan grabbed his testicles, and that's why he punched him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted July 12, 2002 The problem with a lot of cops worldwide is after they have been on the job they develop a real "us vs. them" mentality...they begin to believe their is two sorts of people in the world: cops and perps. No in-between. I know a few cops (& ex-cops) and most seem to have gone this way...and the job does very little to discourage this type of thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ July 12 2002,05:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it was 'public', not 'pubic'.<span id='postcolor'> Nope, it was always 'pubic', I can attest to that I got my "Royal Clitoris" at the same time... I think that you can see a pattern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted July 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ July 11 2002,23:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Really? Wow, i could have sworn that it was public before  Never mind then.<span id='postcolor'> I'm with you Sadico, I was sure it said public...I guess I failed my observation test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kep Kelagin 1 Posted July 12, 2002 U just simply can't trust any $%!#@*&$@ cop .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted July 12, 2002 "U just simply can't trust any $%!#@*&$@ cop ...." Yes you can. Compare the number of incidents with the actual number of actions taken by police and you will find its quite uncommon. Atleast in Sweden, I assume its like that in other places to though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kep Kelagin 1 Posted July 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ July 12 2002,13:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes you can. Compare the number of incidents with the actual number of actions taken by police and you will find its quite uncommon. Atleast in Sweden, I assume its like that in other places to though.<span id='postcolor'> Well, some mabye... but the most of them u simply can't trust... i had several bad experiences with the police, and seeing crap like that on tv, really gets me pissed off...Besides, they guy that got beaten up, was lucky that someone was filming it, most of the times people dont know what happens, only when it gets in public, like now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted July 12, 2002 This is my opinion on cops. Most cops were bullies as kids and become cops to have the power of authority over other people. They are not highly educated, and generally have the Cops vs Robbers mentality. I'm a cop, they are stupid robbers, I'm better than them. I really cant stress the bulliness enough. They are bullies. They know they are bullies. They like being bullies. Now of course, this is not the case for all cops. But I am generalizing on my observations. I think good cops become FBI agents. Bad cops stay cops and bully people around. I used to want to be a police officer, but I decided I didn't want to work with those types of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bringer 0 Posted July 12, 2002 >> They are not highly educated Most departments in the States require a four year degree. Nice try though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted July 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Most departments in the States require a four year degree. Nice try though.<span id='postcolor'> Having a 4 year degree doesn't mean you can't be a moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted July 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bringer @ July 12 2002,10:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">>> They are not highly educated Most departments in the States require a four year degree. Nice try though.<span id='postcolor'> The minimum qualifications for State Trooper are: must be at least 21 years of age on date of hire must be a high school graduate or have a GED (college and/or related experience PREFERRED) must be a United States citizen must be of good character and reputation as established by a background investigation to include but not limited to: a polygraph examination, educational achievements, prior work experience, character and reputation, credit history and police record must be in possession of a valid driver’s license and a good driving record must be willing to relocate anywhere in the state based on Department needs (no restrictions on assignment to former home county or city) must be willing to travel to Virginia at own expense to complete testing and screening process must be able to meet the minimum vision requirement of 20/100 binocular uncorrected vision, correctable to 20/20 and meet minimum requirements for color vision test must be able to meet hearing standards established for this position weight must be in proportion to height must be willing to work rotating shifts and weekends Come on they let you in with a GED... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted July 12, 2002 The basic qualifications to be considered for a law enforcement career with the City of Fairfax are: You must be a U.S. citizen. Â You must be at least 21 years of age by the date you are appointed as a police officer. Â You must be a high school graduate, or have a valid G.E.D. certificate. Â You must have a valid drivers license in your current state of residence. If you will be relocating to Virginia, you must be able to obtain a valid Virginia drivers license upon appointment. Â Your eyesight must be a minimum of 20/20 binocular vision. You may wear corrective glasses but your uncorrected vision with glasses must be no worse that 20/100 in either eye. You may also use corrective soft contacts. Uncorrected vision with soft contacts must be no worse than 20/200. Â You cannot have any felony criminal convictions, or have ever been convicted of domestic assault or any other conviction that would prohibit your possession of a firearm. Â You must have a sound and good reputation, be honest and of good moral character. Â You must have the ability to speak clearly and hear, to analyze information and react swiftly to high stress situations. Â You cannot be a current user of unlawful drugs or abuser of alcohol or any other stimulant or depressant. Prior unlawful drug use will be reviewed in reference to how recent the use was, the type of drug, and frequency of use. Once again all you have to have is a GED. Â Even the army doesn't allow that... So actually you're "4 year college" claim was wrong. Nice try though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites