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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (residuum @ July 09 2002,08:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He got suspended with pay.

So basically if any officer wants a vacation, go beat the shit out of a teenager.

But seriously, none of us were there.  The media can distort events VERY easily.  I'm not gonna judge these guys, or the teen, until I know ALL the facts.<span id='postcolor'>

It's innocent till proven guilty really. He's suspended from duty, but until he is charged with wrong doing he gets his pay. Has to be that way.

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......... which is exactly the opposite to everyone else confused.gif

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I don't trust video unless I see its from the very beginning. During the Rodney King affair, the media conveniently left off the first minute or so when the cops were using tasers and King was attacking them.

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IT wasn't that bad of a hit,That kid is going sue the city for 2 million bucks.I think the cop punch him because they may have thought he was swallowing something,because if you watch the video you can tell they are putting their finger in his mouth so he would stop.Only problem with video taping stuff is that you don't see what happens before they start recording.But the cop should have never pick up the kid and drop him on the trunk of the car.

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I don't know what the teen did, but a cop shouldn't beat a handcuffed suspect anyway. I mean, come on. 3 cops beating a handcuffed teenager? That's wrong, doesn't matter what has the guy done. Punishing criminals is the judge's work, not the cop's.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ July 09 2002,19:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't trust video unless I see its from the very beginning.  During the Rodney King affair,  the media conveniently left off the first minute or so when the cops were using tasers and King was attacking them.<span id='postcolor'>

what made it worse is constant lies from officers. one officer described Rodney driving his Hyundai well over the car's capable speed.

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The way I see it if you fight/struggle/resist arrest you deserve anything you've got coming to you, if you're innocent then you've nothing to worry about.

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I don't agree with that. If i haven't done anything wrong, why must i let the cops handcuff me and send me into prision? And if the guy tries to hit the cops they can hit back to defend themselves, but they shouldn't handcuff the guy and then hit him when he can't defend himself. That's very coward.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ July 09 2002,22:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't agree with that. If i haven't done anything wrong, why must i let the cops handcuff me and send me into prision? And if the guy tries to hit the cops they can hit back to defend themselves, but they shouldn't handcuff the guy and then hit him when he can't defend himself. That's very coward.<span id='postcolor'>

"Yeah that great big policeman hitting a boy in hardcuffs in the face sure must have felt big."

I'm with you Sardico, It's indefensable.

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If they are bigger or better armed they don't need to handcuff you or have 3 other guys holding you while he beats you. Cops have been given authority and powers that the ordinary citizen doesn't have and they are suposed to use them to "protect and serve". If they abuse their power and betray the trust the community had on them, since they have sworn to protect the law, the punishment should be most severe.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ July 09 2002,22:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If they are bigger or better armed they don't need to handcuff you or have 3 other guys holding you while he beats you. Cops have been given authority and powers that the ordinary citizen doesn't have and they are suposed to use them to "protect and serve". If they abuse their power and betray the trust the community had on them, since they have sworn to protect the law, the punishment should be most severe.<span id='postcolor'>

Absolutley, and further if they lose the trust of the community it will make law enforcement harder.

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Just saw the video and the officer clearly lost his cool and wacked him after he was cuffed. This is clearly not allowed once the suspect has been restrained. (I think the trunk slam was a bit much but you could tell the suspect was being uncooperative by just being "dead weight" if you know what i mean). I wonder how the officers got the cuts beforehand? I wonder what the kid was saying? Sounds like he was resisting arrest and possibly assaulted the officer beforehand. I hate not seeing the beginning of the tape which is the case here.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ July 09 2002,22:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just saw the video and the officer clearly lost his cool and wacked him.  (I think the trunk slam was a bit much but you could tell the suspect was being uncooperative by just being "dead weight" if you know what i mean).  I wonder how the officers got the cuts beforehand? I wonder what the kid was saying?  I hate not seeing the beginning which is the case here too.<span id='postcolor'>

What could he have said to deserve a beating while he was cuffed and pinned down?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 09 2002,16:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What could he have said to deserve a beating while he was cuffed and pinned down?<span id='postcolor'>

my post is clarified above. I didn't say it was deserved.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ July 09 2002,22:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 09 2002,16:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What could he have said to deserve a beating while he was cuffed and pinned down?<span id='postcolor'>

my post is clarified above. I didn't say it was deserved.<span id='postcolor'>

I know, I'm just further making the point that this can never be right, as some people here seem to think that it could, which has surprised me.

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the initial report suggested that the boy assualt officer and that's how the officer ended up with his cut on left ear.

and the video doesn't record that part either. it was only after that the guy who recorded it... sad.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

"Yeah that great big policeman hitting a boy in hardcuffs in the face sure must have felt big."

I'm with you Sardico, It's indefensable.<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Absolutley, and further if they lose the trust of the community it will make law enforcement harder.<span id='postcolor'>

Hey, good to see that we can agree in something! tounge.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ July 09 2002,22:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

"Yeah that great big policeman hitting a boy in hardcuffs in the face sure must have felt big."

I'm with you Sardico, It's indefensable.<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Absolutley, and further if they lose the trust of the community it will make law enforcement harder.<span id='postcolor'>

Hey, good to see that we can agree in something!  tounge.gif<span id='postcolor'>

WOW! I suppose we do, I bet we agree on quite a lot actually.. biggrin.gif

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heh, how bout we start up a force like, "Cops that arrest cops". wink.gif And we just arrest cops. smile.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't agree with that. If i haven't done anything wrong, why must i let the cops handcuff me and send me into prision? And if the guy tries to hit the cops they can hit back to defend themselves, but they shouldn't handcuff the guy and then hit him when he can't defend himself. That's very coward.

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It doesn't matter if you did anything wrong or not. If the police wish to arrest you they can. It is how long that they can detain you that is important. If you did nothing then they have to let you go unless there is evidence that proves otherwise. You have every right to resist arrest, it just means that you wil be tackled/ wristlocked/ armbarred/ OC'd/ tased/ batoned/ hobbled etc... The more agressive your resistance, the more action police will take according to the Use-of-Force continuum that is taught to almost every PD in the U.S. Become too violent and it will warrant deadly force. I'm not sticking up for the cop in Inglewood. Like I said before I have no opinion since I don't know all the facts.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SKULLS_Viper @ July 09 2002,19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">heh, how bout we start up a force like, "Cops that arrest cops". wink.gif And we just arrest cops. smile.gif<span id='postcolor'>

It's called Internal Affairs.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's called Internal Affairs.

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Bingo. Also the FBI can investigate corrupt PD's.

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If I was running from the cops I'd expect a good beating.

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One time the police thought me and my friends were "looking in cars" or something and they decided to search us for weapons and take a look at our I.D.s. Well we went along because we weren't doing anything wrong (well actually we were setting off firecrackers but they didnt know that) but this rather husky female officer patted my groin a few times too many. I should have sued for 2 million.

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