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[Lazarus_Long 0]

It's a little plastic pouch that catches the empty brass rounds as they are expelled from the rifle. From what I understand the under-paid Swedish military takes their brass re-cycling very seriously. I guess they spent all their dough on that "Gripen" contraption, so they need to save all the $$ they can.

Here in the states where we love to waste stuff, we just spray the brass all over the woods without a second thought. The only time we collected brass in the Army was during live-fire exercises, and that was for accountability reasons only.

[USSoldier11B 0]

Like you are going to give a flying fuck about saving your brass in combat.

[Sadico 1]

I certainly wouldn't stop to pick up my empty rounds in combat! In a training maybe. What do they do with empty rounds anyway? they use them again or what?

[Shunt 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ June 23 2002,18:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Perhaps I'll bring my camera on the excersise so that you can see pictures of beautiful Norway <span id='postcolor'>

Please don't!        

[Mister Frag 0]

The brass from the empty shells is routinely recycled. Some can be reloaded after cleaning and sizing, depending on what type of primer is used (Boxer vs. Berdan).

Many ranges pay for part of the operating cost by recycling the empties left behind by most shooters. The only guys that usually keep their brass are the handloading/benchrest crowd, which carefully picks up and marks each shell.

During WWII, brass was also recycled whenver possible, largely because resources of any type were scarce. This was especially important with the bigger shells from artillery pieces and tanks.

[Sadico 1]

Thanks for the info

[PitViper 0]

Ding dong, the witch is dead....

[Sadico 1]

Ugh??

[S_Z 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ June 23 2002,22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The standard issue automatic carbine is the HK G3 (AK-4, Swedish designation).

The rifle that the amphibious units use (including mine) is a Swedish modification of the FNC 80 (or CGA5) called AK-5.<span id='postcolor'>

Hmm.. Isn’t the AK5 the Swedish standard weapon now days? Everyone I know that have done military service (including me) used the AK5.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The brass from the empty shells is routinely recycled. Some can be reloaded after cleaning and sizing, depending on what type of primer is used (Boxer vs. Berdan).

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The Berdan primers are reloadable, right? What do they mean when they say a primer is 'corrosive'?

As for reloadablity, Rifle brass can be re-loaded, machine gun brass cannot. I think it is due to the excessive headspacing on a machine gun, it has to be able to accept a variety of good and bad ammo. Anyway, as it is fired, the brass casing expands into the chamber. If the chamber is too long, the brass will stretch out, causing it to weaken. If it is used again, the results won't be too good.

Tyler

[Assault (CAN) 1]

Looks like an early version of the G3, how old is that thing? It still has the vented hand gaurds.

G3a:

Tyler

[USSoldier11B 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Berdan primers are reloadable, right? What do they mean when they say a primer is 'corrosive'?

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No, it's Boxer primed brass that is reloadable.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As for reloadablity, Rifle brass can be re-loaded, machine gun brass cannot. I think it is due to the excessive headspacing on a machine gun, it has to be able to accept a variety of good and bad ammo. Anyway, as it is fired, the brass casing expands into the chamber. If the chamber is too long, the brass will stretch out, causing it to weaken. If it is used again, the results won't be too good.<span id='postcolor'>

Very good. I'm impressed, this is most absolutely correct. Most mg's are designed with loose tolerances to different types of ammo since they aren't meant for precision shooting. Most mg ammo is the junkiest of junk shit.

[R. Gerschwarzenge 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ June 25 2002,22:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ding dong, the witch is dead....

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No, the other song.

[Mister Frag 0]

Primers that are called corrosive leave behind salts that attract moisture, which can cause corrosion in barrels and chambers that aren't chrome-lined.

Regarding the recyclability of brass used in machine guns and some other military weapons, besides loose chamber tolerances, another problem can be the chamber design. Those that don't use fully supported chambers will cause bulges that will stretch the brass shell, leaving behind distinctive length-wise deformations.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Those that don't use fully supported chambers will cause bulges that will stretch the brass shell, leaving behind distinctive length-wise deformations. <span id='postcolor'>

I guess that applies to the FN MAG, every spent casing I see from it has a horizontal dent right under the shoulder of the casing.

Thanks for the answers, USSoldier, and Mr.Frag.

Tyler