War with Facebook

[Bulldog Six 10]

Facebook pulling their security tight with hackers - Ask yourself: are they doing this for your benefit or theirs?

How to stop Facebook from tracking you across the internet

Also helpful:

Declare facebook.com and fbcdn.net as not trustworthy in the Firefox AddOn "NoScript". Additionally you can setup a filter for http://www.facebook.com/* and fbcdn.net^ with "Adblock Plus".

Unlike: why Facebook integration is actually antisocial

Update:

Facebook tracks you even after you've logged out

Edited October 8, 2011 by Bulldog Six

[ArmAriffic 10]

Well I don't even use facebook, never made an account and never will

[purepassion 22]

hehe...

[mrcash2009 0]

Well I don't even use facebook, never made an account and never will

Neither do I, but its useful info none the less.

[st_dux 26]

Facebook has over 500 million users. Do you really think they care about your "personal information"? Chances are really high that you're not important enough for anyone at Facebook to give a shit, so you've got nothing to worry about.

[[asa]oden 0]

You honestly think it's the facebook crew who'd be interested in personal info?

I'd vote for some agency but I do wear a tinfoilhat at dinner each evening.

Edit: Btw Bulldog Six, that picture is more than awesome hahaha :D

Edited September 28, 2011 by [ASA]ODEN

[becubed 24]

They don't care about it, but how long do you think it takes them to query for every user in USA that mentions Labrador dogs if a dog food company is willing to pay?

[Minutemen 10]

Facebook has over 500 million users. Do you really think they care about your "personal information"? Chances are really high that you're not important enough for anyone at Facebook to give a shit, so you've got nothing to worry about.

Oh sure, your life might be intressting as a piece of wood, but other people should be worried about that facebook sale their data to their insurance company. Nothing special about, just if,.. maybee you do something which you discreet when your signed your treaty with them.

By the way. The information about one single person isn't the point. Its behaviour research. If maybee 200 people wrote "i will go to XY Square today". Facebook knows roughly 200 People will go to XY Square and which people that would/could be.

Man, the east german stasi would be impressed by this concept.

[Beagle 684]

I don't see the problem with facebook. I have, like other, a fake account using an artist name or pseudomym there as most other peopele from my scene do on facebook and all other plattforms. You don't have to give FB a single real data. Facebook can only use data you give it, when your registration data is fake so is whenever they may do with it.

Google+ on the other hand...thats the real trouble.

[celery 8]

I don't see the problem with facebook. I have, like other, a fake account using an artist name or pseudomym there as most other peopele from my scene do on facebook and all other plattforms. You don't have to give FB a single real data. Facebook can only use data you give it, when your registration data is fake so is whenever they may do with it.

Google+ on the other hand...thats the real trouble.

Why is Google+ such a problem if Facebook's and its partners' highly questionable practices are no problem at all?

[Beagle 684]

Why is Google+ such a problem if Facebook's and its partners' highly questionable practices are no problem at all?

because Google+ officially forbids the use of pseudonyms...they already suspended a lot of accounts...including some that simply had names for real the reminded of pseudonyms...like "Violet Blue".

http://www.focus.de/digital/internet/google/streit-um-google-netzaktivisten-fordern-recht-auf-pseudonym_aid_662250.html

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/google-plus-deleting-accounts-en-masse-no-clear-answers/567

Edited September 28, 2011 by Beagle

[Frostburg 10]

I don't use my real name of Facebook.

My problem with facebook is that it is sooo damn difficult to use.

It is not at all userfriendly.

They keep changing things that only make it harder

for a tech idiot like me to use.

I don't even know how to update my status anymore.

I need friends to help me upload my pics.

The worst part is that they made it like that intentionally

in order to force people to put in things that they want.

I only put in my bare bones info. I don't include too many hobbies

or whatnot.

But I really don't care if they sell my info to an advertiser.

Maybe then the companies will come out with better products

that I might be willing to buy.

Then again I am the type of guy who loves to fill out surveys

because I believes it improves consumer products and services,

and marketing strategies.

[Maddmatt 1]

because Google+ officially forbids the use of pseudonyms...they already suspended a lot of accounts...including some that simply had names for real the reminded of pseudonyms...like "Violet Blue".

Facebook does the same thing and has for years. There have been cases of Facebook asking for ID to confirm name changes.

Anyway, I use Facebook and find it really useful. If you're so worried about your personal information, then it's as simple as not putting it online. Facbook doesn't force you to reveal anything, it's all optional.

[MrBump 10]

Facebook does the same thing and has for years. There have been cases of Facebook asking for ID to confirm name changes.

Yep, I remember them banning people with real names that included Elmo, Yoda, Beer, Gay, Beta etc, plus there's the story of the Lawyer with the name 'Mark Zuckerberg'...

[mrcash2009 0]

You don't have to give FB a single real data. Facebook can only use data you give it, when your registration data is fake so is whenever they may do with it.

Which is fine, but your not the next generation & the next generation being mind warped into "transparency" and have this tool shoved into you face on every website and smart phone and TV programmes using it and schools etc etc etc all pushing for personal information (correct information) to be added.

Soon face-book will be seen as "the gate to the net" if more generations dont realise. Ive even seen the "trend" of people registering their baby on it ... I mean, dodgy ground, or a promotional stunt ... interesting ... Truman Show in a web page.

Facebook has over 500 million users. Do you really think they care about your "personal information"? Chances are really high that you're not important enough for anyone at Facebook to give a shit, so you've got nothing to worry about.

Hmmm, a database of willing participants behaviours, likes, friends lists, thoughts, ideas, all ready to data mine and analyse of over 500 million people, agencies, debt collection / police / FBI / CIA ... you name it snouts in that trough from the outset.

When the government calls out for a ID database people have gone crazy and boycotted and shouting "big brother!" and all sorts, and yet this slips in perfectly like a cool neat tool and is nothing more than a wikipedia of individuals self created by the world in a self assisted ID database resulting in the same outcome. Its now on all smart phones by default (nearly) API shoved onto many sites and email sites, its not been put their and pushed for no reason wherever you look.

Its not about what you think on a individual level its a collective database level, the OFP comic image sums it up perfectly. Facebooks mentality is "We will introduce more tools to spread private information, its all ok, you can opt out" .. while being the most promoted tool on the face of the web as far as I can see.

This is in fact a prime example of brainwashing, or "packaging something differently".

http://www.naturalnews.com/033713_Facebook_tracking.html

And now, even after logging out of Facebook, permanent "cookies" track all your movements on websites that contain Facebook buttons or widgets.

"Even if you are logged out, Facebook still knows and can track every page you visit," Cubrilovic wrote on a recent blog posting. "The only solution is to delete every Facebook cookie in your browser, or to use a separate browser for Facebook interactions"

Ref the OFP's point.

Facebook isn't about you or now, its about many and the future (young and new generations) & how much it can be intertwined into the backbone of Net 2 and all devices and ultimately people.

Edited September 29, 2011 by mrcash2009

[ziiip 1]

Facebook has over 500 million users. Do you really think they care about your "personal information"? Chances are really high that you're not important enough for anyone at Facebook to give a shit, so you've got nothing to worry about.

Exactly.

[gammadust 12]

http://i.imgur.com/KPw5L.jpg

OP: update your frontpage link... original hosting has been removed.

Edited September 29, 2011 by gammadust
More appropriate size image for this forum

[purepassion 22]

but dont take the picture gammadust posted. It exceeds the forum picture size limit more than twice ;)

[gammadust 12]

but dont take the picture gammadust posted. It exceeds the forum picture size limit more than twice ;)

I've updated exacly thinking about that, doublechecking size though, in case you noticed it after I had done it.

EDIT: 56Kb is good.

[purepassion 22]

perfect now :D ;)

[Dead3yez 0]

At the end of the day, if you don't want people to have your information then don't give it. If you don't want facebook to have your phone number or address, then don't give it.

The problem is when things start to get intrusive by taking your phone numbers and adresses etc without "consent" such as the mobile FB app that was taking people's phone numbers with very sketchy fine print written on the terms and conditions. Also, following which websites people are browsing... I don't want FB to know about all the child pornography I've been searching.

Facebook has also done a lot of good too. Police have caught a lot of criminals because of facebook and other social networking sites with the information that they can share.

[abs 2]

I don't want FB to know about all the child pornography I've been searching.

Uhhh...wut?

Abs

[solidsnake2384 10]

Im Chris Hansen from Dateline NBC........

[Frostburg 10]

I love how everyone was up in arms about the whole patriot

act several years ago. It is still in effect.

But I think facebook is worse than the patriot act. Facebook's

business is virtually the same.

Invade people's privacy and use it for whatever purposes they want.

I mean the patriot act is meant mostly for keeping an eye

on terrorism, therefore they are mostly focused on watching

those who do terrorism.

Facebook is about getting information from EVERYONE.

And they do use deception and clever tools and apps to do that.

Like I said, I don't put any info on facebook that I don't want everyone

or anyone to see. I don't even use my real name. That's mostly

because of my stalker ex-girlfriend. But still.

[mrcash2009 0]

At the end of the day, if you don't want people to have your information then don't give it. If you don't want facebook to have your phone number or address, then don't give it.

Very true indeed, its all a matter of free will. But as I mentioned before the way facebook is pushed into all corners of the net & devices, being used as promo sites for games/tv reality shows, schools using them and so on, the younger un questioning generations (older people for the future who will parent children and they will not question it either as mum & dad were on it) are the ones to sign up and think its cool.

People like myself and what you post will just be "old complainers" once the balance is tipped with more and more up coming generations wired to it from the hand held wifi devices who knew nothing else than it being all around in their lives.

Ive yet to see a company with a bit of backbone and actively say "we prefer not to use face book".

Also they are bringing in the credits money/cashless element and also facial recognition, coupled with digi cameras watermarking images with map coords in headers .. but you can "opt out and switch off" mentality.

Its a bit like "im going to punch you in the face, but you can opt out, although by default I can punch you in the face" way of thinking.

Edited September 30, 2011 by mrcash2009