roberthammer 582 Posted June 23, 2011 http://defensetech.org/2011/03/18/new-details-on-russias-t-95-tank-emerge/ The T-95 speculations from military blog: ---------------------------- Here some publicity known and speculative facts about the T-95 tank program: - Tank weight is nearly ~55 tonnes. It's larger and heavier than T-72/T-80/T-90 series but it have significantly less size(LBH) and weight compared to modern Western design (M1/Leo2/Leclerc etc.). - Maximum speed up to 80 kmh. - Crew(3) in armored capsule. - The ammunition storage, crew section(capsule), and fuel storage are separated from each other with armored walls. High survivability. - An unprecedented level of situational awareness for crew, net-centric integration - Auxiliary 30 mm automatic gun, two MGs - Munitions inside the hull in "circular-type" storage - Few types of munitions for main(152mm) gun: long range barrel-launched ATGMs; rounds with a DU penetrator; HE / antipersonnel rounds; barrel-launched SAM missiles (9M311 152mm SAM missile). It's presumable that guidance for tank's surface-to-air missiles could be provided by mobile SAM vehicles(which are radar equipped) in tank unit; - tactical nuclear munitions; -Titanium parts in construction of the tank (weight reduction) -New generation of active protection systems of both "soft kill" and "hard kill" types to protect tanks from various types of anti-tank weapons. Simply the successors of "Arena" and "Shtora" APS . - Advanced composite armor, built in ERA armor (last gen of 'Relikt" or something newer) - 1500hp diesel engine ---------------------------- What do you think? :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmAriffic 10 Posted June 23, 2011 Meh the M1A3 is going to pwn this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Last time I heard they have slowed or stopped any work on this project. Guess the demand on modular vehicles or components is much higher than on developing new MBT's from scratch. Maybe in the future the traditional MBT's will disappear from battlefields like battlecruisers did from naval warfare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inkompetent 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Most reasonable take on a new tank I've seen yet, and looks like a probable basis for a new tank. Most other designs shown have been so... special I don't think Russia would ever afford to finish them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted June 23, 2011 That looks like a very distinctive profile there... interesting, I love Russian armour. May it never reach Australia's shores in an enemy's hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perforator 10 Posted June 23, 2011 152mm = BOSS Holding ground against a wave of T-95's would seriously shatter my nerves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooky lynx 73 Posted June 23, 2011 As I know, this is not T-95 itself, this is one of the concepts, and the final version will look differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
st_dux 26 Posted June 23, 2011 Gee, this will be really great the next time there's an epic tank battle. Oh wait, that will never happen again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted June 23, 2011 I thought this was canceled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 23, 2011 You can bet that this will be a terrifying beast if they ever produce it. I just hope that croatia finally forks some cash together to produce the M-95 Degman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hans Ludwig 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Tanks have gone the way of the battleship. That's why the Pentagon has drastically cut building more and opted for refurbishing their existing inventory of M1 Abrams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkhorse 1-6 16 Posted June 24, 2011 'Tis a sad truth. Aircraft > Ships Aircraft > Infantry Aircraft > Armored Vehicles Atleast when it comes to funding anyways. Hell, eventually it will be: Unmanned Aircraft > Everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 24, 2011 Until you need to actually control that terrain. Then you need boots on the ground. And that'll never change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooky lynx 73 Posted June 24, 2011 Aircraft > ShipsAircraft > Infantry Aircraft > Armored Vehicles True, when EU or NATO-style army fights some bananistan armed forces who own 60-80's era hardware and can't even manage it properly. In other ways things can turn like Aircraft > fake armored vehicles SAMs > Aircraft Infantry > Downed pilot and its rescue crew ECM > Aircraft Enemy aircraft > Aircraft etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted June 24, 2011 Until you need to actually control that terrain. Then you need boots on the ground. And that'll never change. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PELHAM 10 Posted June 24, 2011 Yes but how many will they actually build? People often say how wonderful Russian hardware is such as: MI-28 Havoc - 37 in operation as of February 2011 Ka-50 15 in operation as of late (2010) Ka-52 8 in operation as of late (2010) US Army 727 AH-64s (107 AH-64As, and 620 AH-64Ds) in use as of January 2011. I'm sure they are very good quality but they can't afford to build them and they don't have many customers...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 24, 2011 Yes but how many will they actually build? People often say how wonderful Russian hardware is such as:MI-28 Havoc - 37 in operation as of February 2011 Ka-50 15 in operation as of late (2010) Ka-52 8 in operation as of late (2010) US Army 727 AH-64s (107 AH-64As, and 620 AH-64Ds) in use as of January 2011. I'm sure they are very good quality but they can't afford to build them and they don't have many customers...... I quite like the "irony" in that. During the Cold War, the West was terrified of the sheer numbers of vehicles and equipment the Soviets had, these days the US outnumbers modern Russian equipment to a similar scale... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 24, 2011 Yes but how many will they actually build? People often say how wonderful Russian hardware is such as:MI-28 Havoc - 37 in operation as of February 2011 Ka-50 15 in operation as of late (2010) Ka-52 8 in operation as of late (2010) US Army 727 AH-64s (107 AH-64As, and 620 AH-64Ds) in use as of January 2011. I'm sure they are very good quality but they can't afford to build them and they don't have many customers...... You have to consider that russia has many more of them stored in hangars. If it says that there are only 37 in operation, then this means we have those 37 for active duty, but we have a unknown number stored in hangars ready for service within a few days if it should be necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 24, 2011 You have to consider that russia has many more of them stored in hangars.If it says that there are only 37 in operation, then this means we have those 37 for active duty, but we have a unknown number stored in hangars ready for service within a few days if it should be necessary. Chuckles. Nope. These brand new systems have literally only been built in handfuls. Yes, they hav 1000's of older generation aircraft in storage, but to fantasise that they have "plenty ready for service" hidden away in hangars is just ludicrous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Those Numbers are ONLY Active! Keep in that in your mind Who thinks the whole Russian have only 8 Ka52 - he is ludicrous US is in the War/s still - thats why are those many Apaches active Edited June 24, 2011 by RobertHammer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 24, 2011 Oh and by the way: NEVER believe official russian numbers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted June 24, 2011 Oh and by the way: NEVER believe official russian numbers! Indeed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 24, 2011 Given that serial production only started in 2008, and that the Russain Air Force only started recieving those aircraft this year, anyone that thinks they've got 100's of them stashed in secret hangars must be the joker ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 24, 2011 And who thinks that there were only so few Helicopters produced is the real joker ^^ When they say that they have 8 operational, you can bet that they have the same number stashed somewhere and that they continue to produce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 24, 2011 So that would bring the sum total to 16 then... I'm not disputing that the 8 number is wrong (infact it is known to be, at least 12 have been identified with "unique" bort numbers - although it is not unheard of for these to be re-painted) What I am disputing is the notion that they have secretly built 100's of them, and have them secretly stashed away in hangars that no one is aware of (same goes for all the other modern tech). There has just been no money for it the last decade. (Although it would appear that despite this, a modernisation program has been underway for a year or two) The T-95, topic of this thread, has been cancelled due to lack of money, and every other army is doing the same - majpr projects cancelled, smaller life-extension plans put in place instead. If you want to continue on with the "russia strong!11!!1!!" fantasies, please do. But just consider that the entire planet (with the exception of China) is in a very shitty place for defence spending right now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites