wizbomb 10 Posted June 23, 2011 im sorry but can someone professionally explain to me the difference between an M4 and an M16? because im locked ina battle with a bunch of call of duty nerds that don't know what there talking about and it frustrates me so much seeing as i just spent about 5 months researching AR-15s so i would think i would know the difference between the carbine and the full rifle :mad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbiGhqhtwrs&lc=QLsms7BfTc1mcxFcPQ4IXm1H6uQgFnDwSodJQ4yT0t0&feature=inbox this guy clearly has an M4 in the Beginning but im assuming because he called it an M16 these nerds hang off his every word Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted June 23, 2011 The M4 is shorter and lighter than the M16, has a collapsible Buttstock instead a fixed one. Muzzle velocity from the M4 is lower and it's louder due to the shortened barrel (370mm while the M16 barrel is 508 mm). That's pretty much it. No point in trying to teach a CoD nerd, they have no clue anyway. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wizbomb 10 Posted June 23, 2011 The M4 is shorter and lighter than the M16, has a collapsible Buttstock instead a fixed one. Muzzle velocity from the M4 is lower and it's louder due to the shortened barrel (370mm while the M16 barrel is 508 mm).That's pretty much it. No point in trying to teach a CoD nerd, they have no clue anyway. :D that's exactly what i told them too, atleast im not a CoD nerd like everyone i know lol (im 15) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hans Ludwig 0 Posted June 23, 2011 The M4 is shorter and lighter than the M16, has a collapsible Buttstock instead a fixed one. Muzzle velocity from the M4 is lower and it's louder due to the shortened barrel (370mm while the M16 barrel is 508 mm).That's pretty much it. No point in trying to teach a CoD nerd, they have no clue anyway. :D Which M4 and M16 are you talking about? I have qualified with both an M16A2/A3/M203 and M4A2/A3, and I can tell you one isn't inherently louder than the other. It just seems that way depending on the weather and for the simple fact that your ear is closer than the M16 variants. I guarantee if you were blindfolded and you had Group A firing an M4 variant and Group B firing and M16 variant, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooky lynx 73 Posted June 23, 2011 I'm not great specialist in western weapons but I suppose that with current amount of available parts there's almost no dedicated models like M4 or M16... They can be converted to each other easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Innomadic 10 Posted June 23, 2011 If i've got my history correct, there was indeed a carbine entitled "CAR-15" which was the M16 with a shorter barrel...so M4 but not.... I don't believe the M4 moniker had been coined at that time. In one of his earlier vids he specifically holds an M16 and and M4 at the same time and distinguishes them both. I mean he DOES spend a crap load of money on firearms, i trust he knows what hes talking about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted June 23, 2011 The M-16 has a 20 inch barrel and a hard plastic stock. The M-4 has(military version) has a 14.5 inch barrel and a hard plastic 6 position collapsible stock. The M-16 tends to be more accurate at long range than the M-4. The M-16 tends to be more reliable due to the longer barrel allowing more gas pressure to cycle the bolt a bit more reliably. The M-4 is easier to handle in confined spaces due to the shorter barrel.Beyond that they are basically the same gun. Just a note: The M-4 and the M-16a2 are the military versions of the AR-15 family of rifles.They are select fire which means that they have the ability to fire both semi-automatically and in 3 round burst. The M-16a1 was full automatic. They are many variations: M16A1 - 20" barrel, fixed butt stock, select fire in Semi and Full auto, triangular handgaurds and rear sight fixed carry handle with windage adjustments. M16A2 - 20" barrel, fixed butt stock, select fire in semi-auto and 3 round burst, circular hand gaurds and rear sight with fixed carry handle windage and elevation adjustments. M16A3 - Same as M16A2 but Full-Automatic fire mode. M4 - 14.5" barrel, adjustable stock, flat top / detatchable carry handle, semi - 3 round burst. M4A1 - Same as M4 but Full-Automatic fire mode. M16A4 - Same as M16A2, but has flat top / detatchable carry handle and 4 rail handgaurds. Source: AR15.com :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inkompetent 0 Posted June 23, 2011 An important thing here I guess is that the standard ammunition for US, the M855 Ball, is designed for the 20" barrel of the M16, meaning worse performance with carbines. The new M855A1 round (from 2010) is designed primarily for the M4 however, and should mean all 5.56-platforms (M4, M16, M249) have good performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted June 23, 2011 The M16 is easier to hit people with when you grip it by the barrel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted June 23, 2011 The M16 is easier to hit people with when you grip it by the barrel. Because it's longer, right? You grip it by the barrel and swing it real hard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Looks like someone here need a little bit of Magpul Dynamic:p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sas troop 0 Posted June 23, 2011 this guy clearly has an M4 in the Beginning but im assuming because he called it an M16 these nerds hang off his every word So what do they tell about that :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wizbomb 10 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) lol after telling the guy the difference between the m16 and m4 he said this Lol you don't know anything for sure, you happen to know the M16 version called XM177? Go look it up you retard but somebody actually agreed with me lol, there's still hope in this world! in the vid i mentioned that i spent the last 5 months researching and AR-15 and if anyone cares here is pictures of it ----> http://www.gamefront.com/files/20473045/Bushmaster+XM-15.zip Edited June 23, 2011 by wizbomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBump 10 Posted June 23, 2011 It's not a XM177 that had a fixed carrying handle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wizbomb 10 Posted June 23, 2011 hahaha cod fanboys make me laugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Next time, just refer it as an AR-15, no need to explain anything to a retard. Nice rifle BTW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted June 23, 2011 In those pics it looks like is basic M16A2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 23, 2011 In those pics it looks like is basic M16A2 Its a flat top 20" BBR fix buttstock semi-automatic AR-15 platform;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wizbomb 10 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) i wanted it to look like an m16a3 and i will change nothing, although my dad wants to put a scope on it because he cant see lol :D http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWA2S20.asp Edited June 23, 2011 by wizbomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted June 23, 2011 No man who wants to retain his sanity would every argue with youtube commenters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) i wanted it to look like an m16a3 and i will change nothing, although my dad wants to put a scope on it because he cant see lol :Dhttp://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWA2S20.asp Well at least change your standard 4179 magazine follower into something more reliable so that it won't jam like fuck when have a little bit of dirt in it. And as NeMeSiS said: don't need to get piss on youtube, you can, however, intentionally piss those retards off. Edited June 23, 2011 by 4 IN 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted June 23, 2011 Basicly this Bushmaster XM15 is Civ/Competition version of M16A2/A3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Well you can't actually have an A3 unless you got one pre-ban Edited June 23, 2011 by 4 IN 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyteless 10 Posted June 23, 2011 Why don't we all reply to "extremekiler," and say our good man Wiz is correct? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Why don't we all reply to "extremekiler," and say our good man Wiz is correct? :D No need, in fact, why waste so much time on retards? They choose to be idiot, let them be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
