JuggernautOfWar 1 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) I'd like to know who here likes the mouse assigned to "turn" or "roll" for aircraft and why. Alright go crazy, post away. Edited January 12, 2011 by JuggernautOfWar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11aTony 0 Posted January 12, 2011 I like to have it on default. How is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted January 12, 2011 I couldn't care less, since i use a Joystick :) And so should anyone else who flies more than a few minutes per game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuggernautOfWar 1 Posted January 12, 2011 I like to have it on default. How is that? That is "turn" in the control settings. I couldn't care less, since i use a Joystick :) And so should anyone else who flies more than a few minutes per game I fly all the time, but sadly I have no room/money for a joystick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shay_gman 272 Posted January 12, 2011 I couldn't care less, since i use a Joystick :) And so should anyone else who flies more than a few minutes per game Agree on a stick for fixed wings, but as for choppers mouse and keyboards is better. It still aracdic flight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 0 Posted January 12, 2011 I couldn't care less, since i use a Joystick :) And so should anyone else who flies more than a few minutes per game Ha, that's a negative. I get much more precision with mouse and keyboard. In fact i'm considering buying some pedals for better tail rotor control but sticking with mouse and keys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rindier 10 Posted January 12, 2011 sinse ive been playing ps2 and ps3 for years ive goton used to consoule style flying so all i did was buy a logitec controler and i use that for ArmA2 (<---greatest game ever you know it!!!) and i can fly like a pro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas 5 Posted January 12, 2011 I have two joysticks. I use my Logitech G940 when playing ArmA for a long period of time or if I'll be flying a lot. If I don't feel like pulling out my Logitech G940, I use my old Saitek ST290 Pro. If I forget to plug either in, I don't fly at all because I hate flying with my mouse. If I do have to fly with my mouse, it is on default controls. Thought about using my PS3 or XBox controllers, but haven't tried either yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted January 12, 2011 I have two joysticks. I use my Logitech G940 when playing ArmA for a long period of time or if I'll be flying a lot. If I don't feel like pulling out my Logitech G940, I use my old Saitek ST290 Pro. If I forget to plug either in, I don't fly at all because I hate flying with my mouse. If I do have to fly with my mouse, it is on default controls. Hi Dice You can plug in or hotswap controllers while ArmA is running now. So no need to restart ArmA. Just plug, in go into options, controls, disable then re enable the controller and Bobs your Auntie. Certainly works with TrackIR so I do not see why it would not work with all controllers. Kind Regards walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas 5 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Hi DiceYou can plug in or hotswap controllers while ArmA is running now. So no need to restart ArmA. Just plug, in go into options, controls, disable then re enable the controller and Bobs your Auntie. Certainly works with TrackIR so I do not see why it would not work with all controllers. Kind Regards walker Thanks walker, I wasn't aware of this as I'm so used to games where you must have the controller plugged in before starting the game. I'll have to give it a try tonight when I get home. Edited January 12, 2011 by Nicholas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidpinky 11 Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks walker, I wasn't aware of this as I'm so used to games where you must have the controller plugged in before starting the game. I'll have to give it a try tonight when I get home. I have my Xbox controller and joystick plugged in at the same time, you can double up on buttons if need be, like my tophat is assigned the same as the d-pad on the controller for menu control/fire mode selector etc. I only use the mouse while flying as a form of trim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76 0 Posted January 13, 2011 Turn... if thats default.... wouldn't know why I'd have my mouse bound to roll as 'A' and 'D' (left and right) on my KB are bound to roll as default. Mouse and KB allow for the best control of your aircraft in ArmA2's arcady style of flight, which I like... I don't want vehicles or aircraft to be simulated more than they are, shit like that will ruin ArmA for public consumption. slightly off topic but BI needs to start listening to suggestion and ideas other than that of the full tactical coop only players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[aps]gnat 28 Posted January 13, 2011 BI needs to start listening to suggestion and ideas other than that of the full tactical coop only players. Yeh, somewhat agree. Just because they are loud, doesnt mean they are the majority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamic Echo 10 Posted January 13, 2011 I fly all the time, but sadly I have no room/money for a joystick. An xbox 360 controller is a good alternative. Obviously isn't as authentic but it's also useful for ground vehicles and the analogue inputs in the form of the triggers are useful. I do wish that I had a joystick though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arksa 10 Posted January 13, 2011 An xbox 360 controller is a good alternative. Obviously isn't as authentic but it's also useful for ground vehicles and the analogue inputs in the form of the triggers are useful. I do wish that I had a joystick though. 360 controller is perfectly fine when you get used to it. I've been using it for about 6 months now and it's great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuggernautOfWar 1 Posted January 14, 2011 Ugh but it's (says in whiny voice) Miiicrosoooft! Besides, I have a PS3 right next to my computer, so if I were to just adapt that to the PC that'd be awesome. Never heard of anybody doing that though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidpinky 11 Posted January 14, 2011 Ugh but it's (says in whiny voice) Miiicrosoooft! Besides, I have a PS3 right next to my computer, so if I were to just adapt that to the PC that'd be awesome. Never heard of anybody doing that though. I own a PS3 also, and I hate to say it but the Xbox 360 is far superior. It is better for man sized hands and the build quality outstrips the PS3 one by miles, if only M$ put the same build quality into the actual console. You can adapt the PS3 controller to PC BTW, plenty of folk do it. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfbite 8 Posted January 14, 2011 I was just thinking. In arma when you come in for a fast landing in a helo.... If you just pull back and dump the throttle you flare into the sky like a rocket... But I was just thinking in real life if you dump the throttle and pull back do they shoot into the sky as dramaticaly as they do in arma? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuggernautOfWar 1 Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) I was just thinking. In arma when you come in for a fast landing in a helo.... If you just pull back and dump the throttle you flare into the sky like a rocket... But I was just thinking in real life if you dump the throttle and pull back do they shoot into the sky as dramaticaly as they do in arma? They most certainly do not. This is another thing I hate about the games flight. Also this goes back to what OpticalSnare said about aircraft "flying by wire", so to speak. The game automatically ups your throttle/collective when you nose up so you don't stall as easily in planes. Sadly this is carried over to helicopters in a very poorly done fasion. I think under the difficulty options there should be a toggle to enable/disable automatic flight controls such as automatic throttling and rudder adjustment. Also the control for helicopters and planes are the exact same in this game. They handle completely differently, and have completely different controls in real life, so I believe they should in a so-called "simulator" such as this. Though I am more picky than most when it comes to aircraft so I doubt anything will change. Edited January 15, 2011 by JuggernautOfWar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Exodus 10 Posted January 19, 2011 Turn. For example, in a Helo, at low speeds the mouse yaws, however when you're at high speeds, the act of yawing actually makes the helo roll, so it's adaptive, whereas if it was always roll, it would make any kind of weapons platform use fairly tricky. With Fixed-wing, it's the same principle, use the mouse on the taxi-way to turn the aircraft, then, while you're in the air, it'll roll. This is all with settings on default, btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pooroldspike 129 Posted January 21, 2011 I'm a longtime hardcore flight simmer, but AA2 is not a flight sim so I don't feel the slightest need to use a joystick because using keys is just fine. For general flight in AA2 from A to B, my preference is to fly with external view (numpad Enter toggle) for better 'attitude awareness', AND with the 'Free Look' locked on (numpad *) This creates a comfortable sense of detachment from the plane/chopper as if it's 'sitting in the air', allowing you to freely pan around it, and you simply touch the four arrow keys now and again to keep it on track. When landing choppers on a precise spot, I like to engage 'Autohover' on the approach, then (with Auto-hover still engaged) use the arrow keys to 'nudge' the helo towards the spot, in combination with the descend key (Z) and the left/right yaw keys (X and C) to land on a sixpence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites