Dead loser #8,886

[KingBeast 0]

Teletubbies is one of the main reasons people go nuts, but come now, pringles are joyous. Do not soil the name of such a tasty snack.

[Wobble 1]

lol

[cpl_BOB 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 14 2002,08:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">""""A call for warning labels""""

Warning:

This game is very fun and immersive, and should not be played by loser idiots who would gladley kill themselves over an online game.<span id='postcolor'>

OFP should have one of those!

[Aculaud 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 14 2002,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Aculaid, how can you empathise with those monsters???

They were angry and jealous of all the cooler kids and so they wanted to show them off with guns and violence.

That just makes them all the weaker and more cowardly in my mind.

I just graduated from HighSchool in the year of 2000, and I never felt like them.

In my mind they were pathetic losers.  Why empathise with them??<span id='postcolor'>

(forigive the lateness, havent looked in a while)

I sure hope your miss spelling of my name is a mistake, otherwise you lower yourself to the level of all the other cheap-shot'ers that do the same thing.

Your not being able to understand where they were coming from, and pointing out that you think they were pathetic losers because they hated the "cool kids", and not understanding how i could empathise with them leads me to believe that you were part of the groups of kids that filled people like me with bitter, endurring anguish durring those years.................or you went to a better highschool than they did. if thats it, than i apologize for that first part.

Well it never stops. I understand how they fealt because i went through what they went through, maybe worse. And i know others who went through what they went through. And i know others who are going through what they went through. The "In Crowd", devided among its sub catagories it may be, is all the same. Stupid people getting by on their aperant good looks, thinking that if it werent for them, no one would have friends, while at the same time, they make peoples lives a living hell that doesnt end until graduation just because they happen to go a different path with the way they want to look and act etc.

This is nothing to joke about for me. You know absolutely nothing about me, or what iv gone through, or whats in my head. Dont think for one second that just because you never had to go through what they did, that no one ever does. Consider all the good schools youve gone to a matter of good luck, because every school iv ever gone to has been nightmerish and traumatizing to say the least.

[Renagade 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ April 15 2002,05:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 14 2002,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Aculaid, how can you empathise with those monsters???

They were angry and jealous of all the cooler kids and so they wanted to show them off with guns and violence.

That just makes them all the weaker and more cowardly in my mind.

I just graduated from HighSchool in the year of 2000, and I never felt like them.

In my mind they were pathetic losers.  Why empathise with them??<span id='postcolor'>

(forigive the lateness, havent looked in a while)

I sure hope your miss spelling of my name is a mistake, otherwise you lower yourself to the level of all the other cheap-shot'ers that do the same thing.

Your not being able to understand where they were coming from, and pointing out that you think they were pathetic losers because they hated the "cool kids", and not understanding how i could empathise with them leads me to believe that you were part of the groups of kids that filled people like me with bitter, endurring anguish durring those years.................or you went to a better highschool than they did. if thats it, than i apologize for that first part.

Well it never stops. I understand how they fealt because i went through what they went through, maybe worse. And i know others who went through what they went through. And i know others who are going through what they went through. The "In Crowd", devided among its sub catagories it may be, is all the same. Stupid people getting by on their aperant good looks, thinking that if it werent for them, no one would have friends, while at the same time, they make peoples lives a living hell that doesnt end until graduation just because they happen to go a different path with the way they want to look and act etc.

This is nothing to joke about for me. You know absolutely nothing about me, or what iv gone through, or whats in my head. Dont think for one second that just because you never had to go through what they did, that no one ever does. Consider all the good schools youve gone to a matter of good luck, because every school iv ever gone to has been nightmerish and traumatizing to say the least.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes but why did they seemingly randomly kill ppl wouldn`t they have just shot the ppl who made so pissed off as to take this course of action.

By the way wft is everquest and that ultima shite,is it those stupid games with wizards and dwarfs and crap??

[Aculaud 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ April 15 2002,05:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes but why did they seemingly randomly kill ppl wouldn`t they have just shot the ppl who made so pissed off as to take this course of action.<span id='postcolor'>

Thats what i would have done, had i been so out of control of my emotions (and not been too emotionally crushed to do something about it)

Anyway, i dont know. Why dont you ask them?

And who knows? maybe those that died werent as random as some think

[nordin dk 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 15 2002,00:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Its like watching a retard throw himself in front of a bus unkowing of what would happen and then saying "fuckin tard, he didnt need to jump in front of that bus. Its his own fault, what a loser"

yes.. you throw yourself in front of a bus it IS your fault.. and you are a loser..  of course if its a retarded kid.. and you would have to be REALLY retarded to do that.. then he souldent have been in the position to do that to himself.. but the guy in question wasnt retarded.. he was just anti-social and ignorant..

I bet if I went out and murdered a bus full of nuns it wouldent be my fault.. because somewhere it could be blamed on my upbringing or enviroment or some other new age pass the blame bullshit.

what ever happened to good ole fashon CRAZY? cant a motherfucker just be crazy anymore? I remember when I was younger if someone do something nutty or had some fucked up habit it would be "yea.. that bastard timmy was as crazy as a shithouse rat!"..  now its something like "We belive timmy has his shit eating fetish becuase his mother only breast fed him from her right brest and she whatched The Price is Right too much when she was pregnent.. so its not timmy's fault hes like that"

piss on timmy and everyone who looks like timmy! timmy is a sick twisted fuck!

some people are just not for this world.. and they commit suicide (late term self-abortion).. its that simple..   not everyone who someone shits out is all there.. "all life is sacred.. everyone deserves a happy life"  BULLSHIT! not all life is sacred, and some people who shouldent have been born do.. they have massive disfigurments, extreme mental retardation.. etc etc. and not ehy should not be alive at all.. am I saying we should kill them? no, im saying they shouldent have been born.. but now that they are you cant expect them to live a normal life, they ARE NOT NORMAL, you cant expect them to live a happy life, THEY WILL NOT...

of course if your so mentally fried you get all the pleasure in life you need from watching teletubbies and eating pringles good for you.<span id='postcolor'>

With the complete lack of humanity you sometimes demonstrate Wobble, I'm really amazed how you can freak out over cats.

You act like you have no interest what so ever in knowing anything about other people, the planet you inhabit or the universe into which you were born.

You prefer everything to be black and white, good and evil.

While sometimes having a crude and simplified view of things can seem to make life easier for you, don't be fooled.

If all of mankind thought like you, we would be still be handing out frontal lobotomy's left and right, to people who can lead good lives with simple medication.

Also, you might not think handicapped people worthy of a good life, but I'm sure they themselves feel quite strongly about it.

Someday, you are going to be in a situation that isn't black or white, where there is a need for you to demonstrate that you have at least a grain of ethics.

[Wobble 1]

With the complete lack of humanity you sometimes demonstrate Wobble, I'm really amazed how you can freak out over cats.

You act like you have no interest what so ever in knowing anything about other people, the planet you inhabit or the universe into which you were born.

You prefer everything to be black and white, good and evil.

While sometimes having a crude and simplified view of things can seem to make life easier for you, don't be fooled

just how does me considering someone who quits their job and kills themself over a GAME make me inhumane?  its pathetic.. maby the guy had problems.. well he rejected any help (as the article says) he pigeonhole himself into the situation.. he did everything possable to insure his own fate.. and its his fault.

people can only offer so much help..  "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"

same deal.. his mother tried and tried to get him to get help for his problem.. he refused.. now hes dead.. its his fault and he was stupid..

If all of mankind thought like you, we would be still be handing out frontal lobotomy's left and right, to people who can lead good lives with simple medication.

maby this jagoff could have been ok with some help or meds.. but he refused any and all help.. and thats nobody's fault but his..

Also, you might not think handicapped people worthy of a good life, but I'm sure they themselves feel quite strongly about it.

im not talking about people born with messed up legs or anything like that.. im talking about the REALLY bad ones.. the ones who will never get the mental capacity greater than a 2 year old.. the kind who must have a resparator on all the time.. slang term would be "vegetables" thats who im talking about.. they will never be happy, or normal..

Someday, you are going to be in a situation that isn't black or white, where there is a need for you to demonstrate that you have at least a grain of ethics.

maby that was a few years ago when my mom finally died from cancer.. she spent the last year of her life on a resparator and undable to talk, move or do anything else.. all she could really do was feel pain.. and when she finally passed on frankley i was relieved. her time was over.. granted cancer was not her fault but there comes a point when life is not better than death, and she had reached it.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 16 2002,01:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just how does me considering someone who quits their job and kills themself over a GAME make me inhumane?  its pathetic.. maby the guy had problems.. well he rejected any help (as the article says) he pigeonhole himself into the situation.. he did everything possable to insure his own fate.. and its his fault.

people can only offer so much help..  "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"

same deal.. his mother tried and tried to get him to get help for his problem.. he refused.. now hes dead.. its his fault and he was stupid..<span id='postcolor'>

I gotta go with Wobble on this one. Your life is only valuable insofar as you add value to it yourself. When this guy leads himself down that path of destruction, I cant feel any sympathy for him, because in my mind anyone who cant take charge of their lives and correct a problem so simple as disengaging from his computer now and then, is weak. Not necessarily physically weak or emotionally weak, but mentally weak. He lacks the willpower to better himself, and also shows a selfish streak by his failure to consider his Moms feelings, and thats a human that the world doesnt need. Is it too bad that he leaves his Mom -who apparently did about everything she could for him- blaming herself? Of course, but thats skirting the issue. Its this guys fault that his Mom is mourning her son, and I feel no sympathy towards him. His Mom, yes. Him? No.

[IceFire 0]

Aculaud, (sorry about the mispelling).

I still don't quite get it. You are right about a few things that I will hand to you.

I did go to a really good school. Churchill being one of the richest and most affluent in MD. Alot of us did have some egos and those who did not fit in were generally ostracized.

Our school had other problems though, a HUGE drug problem, all us affluent kids with money you know.

But I still cannot see how some little trwerps who cannot socialize need to feel like a big man by shooting up the place with guns.

Yeah, I'll admit, there was alot of prejudice against some if these kids, if they were not driving around hot cars or were not good looking, well, I feel sorry for them.

But it is still sick that they want to take it out on the whole school. Not to mention very selfish.

[Wobble 1]

its simeple "my life sucks and yours doesent, so I hate you"

just taken to the extreme.. fuck em.

[loopy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ April 14 2002,16:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why do the families always look for the easy fix to blame? Maybe it was the fact that his home life was so lacking that made him addicted to the game and led to his suicide. I get so sick of this BS, some f**kwit offs himself and the family want to blame the game he is playing, or the music he is listening to, or a movie he was watching....can these people not see that the problem goes way beyond any of these things? I suspect in this case the family are looking for a cash settlement from the game producers.

To the grieving mother: look harder for the cause of your sons problems.<span id='postcolor'>

Major couldn`t have put it better it always is someones else stuff up.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

I see those people every day of my life (and in fact it is a typical german desease). People that not only blame others for their miserable life but also try to punish those they consider guilty. I feel absolutely no sympathy for them. Those guys often grow up and then start to hit their wife and children, sorry, zero tolerance.

[Major Fubar 0]

In many ways this case reminds of the James Vance/Judas Priest court fiasco.

Some interesting facts about that case (despite the fact his family blamed the nasty British heavy metal for their son's suicide attempt):

- James and his friend had been drinking and smoking pot all day prior to the incident

- James's sister has also attempted suicide, despite the fact she never listened to heavy metal

- It has been scientifically proven that the real cause of his suicide was living with a f**ked up Christian fundamentalist redneck family with a mentally unbalnced mother and an abusive father (OK OK, I made this last one up)

P.S. Wobble, your views regarding the handicapped are a little basic and uninformed. I'm not talking about the guy who offed himself (he was insane as opposed to handicapped), but your comments regarding people with mental retardation. I'm assuming you have no relatives with this condition or have contact with any handicapped people. People like this deserve our respect for struggling though their lives despite hardships able minded and bodied people like us could not even imagine. My cousin is deaf and mildly metally handicapped, should she have been euthanised at birth?

[Wobble 1]

not, thats NOT AT ALL WHAT I SAID! all I said is that you cant really expect someone with severe mental retardation or extreme physical defects to life the same calibur of life you do.. and when they dont (cant) you cant really blame ANYONE for it.. its not their fault (born that way) but nor is it anyone elses.

and yes I have had contact with both, I used to work at a hospital.. though not a nurse or Doc I worked on the computers and that gave me more than enough exposure to a wealth of mentally retarded or severley disfigured people.. and not many of them seemed to be getting to big of a kick out of it.. not that they should die.. but Im not expecting them to have a good life.

[Major Fubar 0]

OK Wobble, maybe I misunderstood the intention of what you were saying.

No hard feelings.

P.S. Keep that funny shit coming, we love it!

[Aculaud 0]

3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 16 2002,023)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Aculaud, (sorry about the mispelling).

I still don't quite get it.  You are right about a few things that I will hand to you.

I did go to a really good school.  Churchill being one of the richest and most affluent in MD.  Alot of us did have some egos and those who did not fit in were generally ostracized.

Our school had other problems though, a HUGE drug problem, all us affluent kids with money you know.

But I still cannot see how some little trwerps who cannot socialize need to feel like a big man by shooting up the place with guns.

Yeah, I'll admit, there was alot of prejudice against some if these kids, if they were not driving around hot cars or were not good looking, well, I feel sorry for them.

But it is still sick that they want to take it out on the whole school.  Not to mention very selfish.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh, so thats the kind of school you were going to! Its no wonder youd look down on my kind then. I'll just ask you, on this note, have you ever been made to feel inferior to everyone else on a regular basis? Seriously, i expect an answer to that.

P.S. yeah, no hard feelings about the miss-spelling. a lot of people who didnt like what i had to say on other forums used that as an easy shot.

[Major Fubar 0]

Aculaud, I can identify with how you feel. I was often the victim of bullying at school, and was definitely a social outcast, not one of the cool kids. (I went to a pretty rough working class state school).

It made me pissed off, angry and depressed, but I never once seriously considered killing as many people as I could in retribution.

I did eventually crack and grab one guy who used to pick on me and slam his head in a locker door a few times, but that's hardly comparable to waltzing through a school killing left right and centre.

Can I identify with how these kids felt - yes; can I in any way condone what they did - no. If I was a family member of any of the kids that died I'd like to see these guys fry in the electric chair.

[Aculaud 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ April 16 2002,04:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If I was a family member of any of the kids that died I'd like to see these  guys fry in the electric chair.<span id='postcolor'>

the way the familys of victims fealt is merely one side of the story.....

[Wobble 1]

the way the familys of victims fealt is merely one side of the story.....

well.. i guess you must ask which side matters most.. the story of the innocent people killed?.. which is basically "oh shit ive been shot" or you can look at how the killers try to justify in their own twisted minds how its is just that they murder lots of kids because THEY are not happy? which is more valid? which is better?

as far as I care the story of the killers should be zzzzaaaappp!

[IceFire 0]

Have I ever been made to feel inferior to someone on a regular basis?

I can't say that I have "regularely".  Some in elemantary and middle school.

But not a whole lot.  A bit of being bullied here and there.  But I generally fought back if I ever got touched.  So most people were friendly to me.

In highschool, I had plenty of fun.  Yeah, people talk about other people behind their back.  That is what highschool is about.  Gossip anyone?

I was never really looked down upon or thought of as a freak or nerd if that is what you mean.

Everyone has been made fun of or teased at time to time.  Most of the time I can get even and we are friends.

Even some of the bullies were nice to me when they realized what a cool person I was.

I never picked fights with anyone.  And I liked most people except for the anti-social hateful freaks.  

I didn't dislike them for who they were. I did so only because of their animosity for anyone who was better than them.

Honestly I felt sorry for them and wanted to help them.

I believe in self improvement and therefore changed or improved upon aspects of my self that I or others do not like.  It's constant thing.  That is how we improve ourselves.

[Aculaud 0]

yeah............well.................guess what?

It never ended for me. Thats right, no stopping. Every single god damn kid in my class was against me. This was in elementary school, when i was still young and impressionable. They made me feel like i was less than them. Far less. I can remember hiding in the bathroom because the whole class was in up-roar at my expense. And the teacher did shit. and the principal did shit. Every school iv gone to has been like that. People just get it through their heads that i'm someone who is hate worthy. People i thought were my friends start spreading things around about me that werent true, and then everyone who i considered a friend started being my enemy instead. They got inside my head and made me hate everything. Teachers took advantage of me through guilt by association, i could never get good grades because i was always too pre occupied with my minus social life. You name it, i went through it. My school life was a living example of Murphys law. Everything that could have gone wrong.......did. I had so many adversaries that i didnt even notice my friends until after i changed to another school. then all i had to show for them was regret.

That old solution "ignore them and they'll stop because they're just trying to get a rise out of you"...........that doesnt work. that never works. It never stops. Ever. I dropped out because of this. Currently, i'm studying for my GED.

So there. Iv just spilled precious blood over the internet of all places. Let this be a testimate to how far i'll go to prove someone wrong when i feel it should be done

[IceFire 0]

Aculaud, if you don't mind ....

Why in the world would they all hate you so much??

There must have been a reason! No whole school could all simultaniousely hate one person so much without a reason.

Maybe you were really mean, maybe there was something obvious to them that was not to you.

I don't want to get really personal, but for a little kid, maybe it was a "hygene" thing.

Alot of little kids get made fun of for that.

Why did they all hate you so much? You must know why.

I am really curous about that. Maybe you could have solved the problem if you knew why.

Is it still like that for you now? Do you have freinds now?

If not, then atleast it has stopped. It it is, then you can still change it!

[Aculaud 0]

nope, i was a pretty clean kid at that time, so it wasnt hygene. And i was never mean to anyone. I was excited to go to school. Really excited. I was happy to get my first homework asignment..............*expression of fierce vile rage accross face*...............yeah, that didnt go the way i wanted it to. I have a pretty good guess as to why it was like that.

First off, iv cut that place a lot of slack (though i still want to burn it to the ground with everyone inside), after finding out the population there was pretty fanatically religious. I mean, i must have been a walking sin in their eyes. Here i was, a member of the male persuasion, growing my hair past my chin and piercing my ears. I expressed myself liberally. Something that no one ever did because it "wasn't in style", or their parents didnt allow them to, or they were brought up to believe it was the work of the devil, or some other stupid reason. i had maybe two friends in that place (this is in elementary school). I can remember hiding at recess to avoid having taunts yelled at me.

Other schools, i havent the slightest clue why people were like that. Except highschool. There, i was ridiculed for being straight edge (no drugs, no alcohol). Everyone there was on something, i swear. I just hate all that kind of shit, so i dont do it, and protest it when i feel it necessary.

Iv always been the victim of this kind of thing. Hell, iv had people come up to me off the street and want to fight me. I have a reason to be anti social. I have a reason to want to take it out on people. Did i?...............havent yet...

As for your other questions, yeah i have friends. Not too many, but the ones i do have are all really good, close friends. I like it that way. I like being around people who make me feel like me. Not too many people i meet are like that. thats just the way it goes, i guess.

[Aculaud 0]

bet you'll never look at one of my posts the same way again