Ubisoft's Draconian DRM

[dm 9]

Source : http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/107/1075124p1.html

Like you couldn't see that coming.

Hah, unsurprising.

Hopefully it can make its way into the more mainstream press so that a bit more noise can be made about this crappy swing in obtrusive DRM.

[dmarkwick 261]

Source : http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/107/1075124p1.html

Like you couldn't see that coming.

How absolutely pathetically inevitable :D

Of course there will be absolutely no chance of the publishers thinking that it was a poor idea. No such admission would ever occur to them. 2 things spring to mind:

1. They'll see it as a success of the DRM that so many people are trying to register.

2. They've got the money. The purchasing monkeys can wait for a fix.

[Zipper5 74]

The least Ubisoft could have done with their ridiculous new DRM measures is make sure they actually work properly. That just exposes the truth - it's not about protecting their product, they just don't care about their customers. Their eyes only see a big $ sign, or 3.

[vilas 477]

they see $ ?

sorry, but what is difficulty to get cracked version that not has any DRM ?

i doubt there is a problem, probably on Torrents there is such version, usually such version appears in 2-3 days

so maybe their DRM will cause people refuse game and download torrent instead ?

if my friend would told me "man, i bought game, i cannot start it cause server has no place to enter you and you cannot launch game" than what else is left than torrent to have "working version" ?

i think Ubisoft is biggest argument for pirates, they can say now "look, men payed money and cannot start application cause servers not allow them"

DRM is suicidal own goal

[bangtail 0]

Source : http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/107/1075124p1.html

Like you couldn't see that coming.

They're trying to blame it on a DOS attack.

No matter what the reason, it's just proof positive that their idiotic protection doesn't work and only serves to inconvenience paying customers.

[Daddl 10]

The alternative is always just not to play the game - or if you bought it already, simply try to return it as defective. A single player game that can't be played offline and which only can be played as long as the game company keeps it's drm servers running IS broken (anyone remember the famous M$ music drm?). Oh, and if they didn't advertise this defect very clearly on the packaging I'd say in the EU at least you should have the law on your side when you try to return it (same as with DRM music cds).

Of course (for now - they'll start that soon enough, too) there are still the console versions which are free of this draconian drm variant - if that is an aceptable alternative for you and such a version exists. I guess with a game like Assasins Creed II that should be viable, but Silent Hunter 5 and a few other games simply don't exists on consoles - or might be suited much better for the pc.

[Zipper5 74]

I've already played (and loved) Assassin's Creed II on the PS3. I'd have loved to have played it on the PC, but it's simply against my principles to buy a game with such a ridiculous form of DRM. If I ever feel the need to play AC2 again, I'll play it on my PS3.

Is Splinter Cell: Conviction coming out on the PC? I read that it was a 360 exclusive. If it does, and it also comes out on the PS3, and it also includes this DRM, I'll buy it for the PS3.

It's a shame that Ubisoft has seen fit to do this. They do make some pretty great games. Well, whoever their developer branches are do.

[bangtail 0]

Is Splinter Cell: Conviction coming out on the PC? I read that it was a 360 exclusive. If it does, and it also comes out on the PS3, and it also includes this DRM, I'll buy it for the PS3.

It's coming for the PC and the DRM BS has been confirmed as well IIRC.

Oh, and apparently there is another DOS attack (AKA Ubishaft sucks).

http://twitter.com/Ubisoft/statuses/10184920360

Edited March 8, 2010 by BangTail

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Good! Now that the very last game that i might buy from UterBullshIt is crippled by the bullshiting DRM, I am going to save a few more bucks for a new rig

[spooky lynx 73]

The alternative is always just not to play the game - or if you bought it already, simply try to return it as defective.

I don't know EU or US laws which regulate this part of trade, but in my country you can return such game only if the disk is damaged while being transported to the shop or in it. If it has physical damage. In the other ways (bugs, poor models/textures/storyline) you have no ability to return money. So if you prove that disk is damaged not by you - the shop will return its cost.

[Hans Ludwig 0]

Gabe Newell on DRM. He begins at this subject around 5:00.

Ubisoft DRM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTZTzsYoZs

[Baff1 0]

I don't know EU or US laws which regulate this part of trade, but in my country you can return such game only if the disk is damaged while being transported to the shop or in it. If it has physical damage. In the other ways (bugs, poor models/textures/storyline) you have no ability to return money. So if you prove that disk is damaged not by you - the shop will return its cost.

I bet if you stop by the hardware store and buy a big axe first they will refund you.

Another good one is to bring a small child and constantly pinch it's bum so it is screaming the whole time.

In the end they will just want to get rid of you whatever the cost.

[bangtail 0]

Unfortunately , I'd expect a lot more of this shitbird DRM in the future. The fact is that it is holding as AC2 remains unbroken and from what I've read at least, SH5's protection was never fully circumvented.

I've also read that C&C4 will be using the same nonsense. TBH, I will stand by my previous resolution and I will not buy anything that features this type of protection. The sad fact is that for every 5 people who say that, 4 of them buy it anyway.

I noticed that AC2 is number 4 on Steam's Top sellers list, that's not because no one is buying it.

Edited March 11, 2010 by BangTail

[Daddl 10]

I don't know EU or US laws which regulate this part of trade, but in my country you can return such game only if the disk is damaged while being transported to the shop or in it. If it has physical damage. In the other ways (bugs, poor models/textures/storyline) you have no ability to return money. So if you prove that disk is damaged not by you - the shop will return its cost.

Actually if there is no clear sign on the packaging that the game requires an internet connection while playing you you stand (at least in Germany - and I bet in the US, too) a VERY good chance to get a refund (and win a class-action suit in the States).

[Hans Ludwig 0]

Actually if there is no clear sign on the packaging that the game requires an internet connection while playing you you stand (at least in Germany - and I bet in the US, too) a VERY good chance to get a refund (and win a class-action suit in the States).

lol No attorney goes to federal court using the FDCPA. I would say something on the lines of 90 percent of consumer/commercial complaints are handled in state courts. And depending which state you go to court, you might have a better chance at winning, depending on if the state is liberal or conservative.

And why would an attorney take a company to court over a consumer buying a copy of a game just to find out it had DRM? The best the law firm representing you could get out of this is compensatory damages, which comes with it no attorney's fees. This means you would be paying the attorney $75, $100, $1,000 dollars an hour (the better the attorney, the higher his hourly pay is) to do whatever work he does for you.

Now that I said that, just don't buy from a company that uses DRM. It's just that simple.

[dm 9]

The sad fact is that for every 5 people who say that, 4 of them buy it anyway.

I noticed that AC2 is number 4 on Steam's Top sellers list, that's not because no one is buying it.

Kinda like the MW2 boycott groups, where ~80% of the group members were listed as "Currently Playing: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" :j:

[vilas 477]

Kinda like the MW2 boycott groups, where ~80% of the group members were listed as "Currently Playing: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" :j:

cause it is kid-mind

how kid play seek-hide ?

he closes eyes by hand and think noone see them

[dm 9]

cause it is kid-mind

Which is even more funny, considering the game is rated 18+ :j:

[NeMeSiS 11]

Which is even more funny, considering the game is rated 18+ :j:

Like that ever bothered someone. ;)

[bangtail 0]

I did mention it before but I can now confirm that C&C 4 is using some form of this crap as well.

PERSISTENT INTERNET CONNECTION, EA ACCOUNT, REGISTRATION WITH ENCLOSED SERIAL CODE AND ACCEPTANCE OF END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT REQUIRED TO PLAY. SOFTWARE REGISTRATION IS LIMITED TO ONE EA ACCOUNT PER SERIAL CODE AND IS NON-TRANSFERABLE. YOU MUST BE 13+ TO REGISTER FOR AN EA ACCOUNT. EULA, EA ONLINE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND FEATURE UPDATES CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.EA.COM. EA MAY PROVIDE CERTAIN INCREMENTAL CONTENT AND/OR UPDATES FOR NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE, IF AND WHEN AVAILABLE. EA MAY RETIRE ONLINE FEATURES AFTER 30 DAYS NOTICE POSTED ON WWW.EA.COM.

[vilas 477]

Which is even more funny, considering the game is rated 18+ :j:

anyone is checking ID card when selling game ?

i know people that are 20-25 , not have work and ... have child

so when you say about "ignore someone" "currently playing something"

than imagine 23 years old man and woman who decide to have child and noone has job

i know such lads in my neighborhood

over 18 do not mean IQ over 100 and keeping promises and having honor

[Deadfast 43]

anyone is checking ID card when selling game ?

Very high-pitched voice: "But I totally am 18!"

You really don't need an ID to see that someone is 14 ;)

[Maio 293]

LOL , I went to a store to check out the price for AS 2 , and the clerk suggested that I should look for something else to "buy" :)) . Ubi... Ubi...

[Sniperwolf572 758]

Apparently some people woke up to the following sight this morning.

[dm 9]

Apparently some people woke up to the following sight this morning.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/5971/fuykpd.th.jpg

Permission to lol?