Mid east

[scout 0]

wouldnt you think that if there were any evidence of any kind of shit the media wouldnt be up on it? they didnt find any thing EVEN with the skillful aid of pals. no multiple civilian casualties, no bodies in the streets, no juicy pics. what a shame. oh, yes i forgot, we covered it all up and buried them in a huge grave somewhere in a secret base in south israel, right?

there are no israeli troops in Jenin, if u fear cover-up there is no one to do it other then the pals.

isnt interesting that AFTER israel agree for investigation party, its goals, and fields of investigation had been changed? i find it quite odd.

edit: what your implying about our court system will insult any citizen of any democratic country in the world, and as long there is a democracy here, courts will do their job properly.

they are punishing soldiers that crossed the line you know.

BTW. want to comment about the statement that the Berlin police said it cant defend jewish citizens, and they better hide their jewish identity?

[KingBeast 0]

Delayed investigation = more time to hide the evidence

I dont know, its almost 2am and i feel like some flame attracting speculation

[KingBeast 0]

Would seem my flame magnet is in full working order. Excellent, most excellent.

[scout 0]

then dear magnet answer this: who'll do the hiding?

[KingBeast 0]

The magical hider gnomes of course

Do you have this thread under 24/7 sattelite surveillance?

[scout 0]

LOL!

nah, im on the net from my work.

i work as a security guard, and as a bonus ive got access to the net. all free of charge.

doin really good for my university studies!

(though the forum does less ofcourse )

maybe i should get the nick: OFP loud speaker?

[scout 0]

hey beast! stop picking yer nose ya hear? i saw you!

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Scout, I havent heard about it but okay...! Tell me what is so bad about it? As you may know we have a quite a large jewish population in some larger cities in Germany. The protection of Synagoges is all year round (even with Light tanks). But the reason for this is not, that we fear a second Reichs-kristal nacht (chrystal-night) but terorist attacks! As you know were 15 german tourists blown up in a synagoge! Part 2 of the story is that in Germany the Police has 0 allowance to hold press-conferences on such a thing cause it is far too sensitive. So it doesnt sound very true to me. We dont even have a spokesperson for the whole german police!

But do you think it is much smarter to propose all jews living in France to come to Isreal, because of the first round of the election?

Anyway, dont defend yourself by attacking! It might be true that you are a democratic country, but democracy seems to end at the border! And democracy also ends when a country is at war! No, that with democracy you can only proof by letting others watch what you are doing over there, and not by saying: hey you should trust us!

[KingBeast 0]

Ehh it wasnt me... (wipes under chair)

lol hey while your looking at me picking my nose, some guy just broke through your security measures. I think your going to be searching for a new job soon

Where is it you are a security guard for anyway?

*NEWSFLASH, this just in: A lone intruder evaded Israeli government security earlier this morning and is now holding Ariel Sharon hostage. It is believed he also has access to Israels nuclear assets.

We speak to an employee on the scene:

Reporter: Sir, could you tell us what your job is here?

scout: Im the security guard

Reporter: Can you tell us, how did the intruder gain access? Did they use force? Sophisticated technological means?

scout: Err I dont think so. I mean I dont know. I was on the OPF forums.

Reporter: Excuse me? The entire free world is at risk because you were on the OFP forums??

scout: yup. Can we finish up here? Someones replied to the mid east thread, I gotta get back to work. Oh and good luck with that whole world jeapordy thing!

Reporter: This is Jimmy Jackson for world news..wait, whats that huge flash of light in the sk..............

BROADCAST TERMINATED

ahhh i need to go to bed, look at what im doing. Im going nuts

[scout 0]

okay:

the rabbi of berlin interviewed today in israeli media saying this things.

i appriciate that its from concern to the well being of our ppl but on the other hand this kind of statement is very worrysome. the whole treatment jews are recieveing by these huligans is very worrying me.

i didnt mean to attack but really wanted to hear you out, cause on our end it sounds very bad.

the reason there is disagreements between israel and the UN is simple.

this comitte was supposed to investigate military aspects of the operation yet there is only one military participant.

others are refugees experts, that has nothing to do with this.

more over, Anaan stated that the comittee's mission wont end in Jenin. all that after israeli consent was given.

i dont say this decision made by our govt. is right.

its wrong, and AFAIK from the men on the scene we really dont have anytthing to hide. but that was a dirty trick pulled by Anaan.

edit @beast: RFOL........that would be somthing doesnt it?

nah im just plain guard in some hi-tec factory

[scout 0]

just got a newsflash-

the comittee will arrive in saturday after disagreements about comittee composition would be changed.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

After all, maybe you should learn it!    Just because someone is a Jew doesnt mean he belongs to Israel! They might be jewish, but they still are germans, and they feel as such! They rather listen to national politicans than to Rabbi!

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Anyway. What would you think in our position? Someone makes an attack (a terorist cleansing) in a whole district. During the attack no press was allowed (not even ambulance). Afterwards when the press arrived they found a 90% flattened  district with dead poeple drying in the sun. Then, the Isrealian army does not allow "independant" international investigators to have a look and not even direct help from the Red Cross. I am sorry, but what are we supposed to believe. Man I am not a child you can tell cheap stories!  

[KingBeast 0]

To me it jsut seems all too shabby. Its like a man with a box that wont let anyone see the box, and then insists he has nothing to hide, and says there is nothing in the box. Yet still doesnt let anyone see in the box.

(Jenin is the box for those who cannot understand my psychobabble. And the man represents Israeli officials)

[hkg3 0]

When the UK was in Isreal as peacekeepers several years ago, an extremist group of Isrealis blew up a British base killing and maiming several, everyday the milk would be taken in on urns, that is until one day the urns were filled with explosives. Years later the leader of this extremist group became high up in the Isreali government, and visited the UK, one of the fathers who's son died in this atrocity attempted to make a citizens arrest...........................................thats what i think of all this Pot and kettle.

Give the Palestinians their land, after all the Isreali's fought hard enough for theirs, this is never gonna stop until there is some give and take, the situation in Afganistan was the perfect excuse for the Isreali's to run in and start blowing shit up, focus was elsewhere "Maybe if they are too busy watching what is going on over there, we can run in and waste some peeps", don't get me wrong i'm not against Isreal i just think that if you push people enough this is the reaction your gonna get.....

Whats gonna happen i hear u ask, well in my opinion nowt nada nothing, just the same shit thats been happening for years, they killed some of ours, ok well lets kill twice as many of theirs bla bla bla...............

[hkg3 0]

Don't ask, something is weird on this comp, sorry bout the multiple post.

[hkg3 0]

Don't ask, something is weird on this comp, sorry bout the multiple post.

[hkg3 0]

Don't ask, something is weird on this comp, sorry bout the multiple post.

[hkg3 0]

Don't ask, something is weird on this comp, sorry bout the multiple post. Please delete them.

[scout 0]

no cheap stories.

u say that during attack no press was allowed, there was a fierce battle there, if u'll check, there were no reporters in any major battle in the past years. simple as that. they'll get in the way, and have a very good chance to be hurt.

ill qoute the regimental doctor (reserve):

"there werent any attempt by any pal ambulances to do any kind of evacuation. as a result we were forced to treat the local population, including sending several ppl to hospitals in israel with our own ambulances. there was no attempt to get into the hospital, although we were fired upon from there."

about the damages. im talking about more then 70% of the houses were boobytraped. nevermind that the residents were still in them! the gunmen would activate charges more then 10 kilos in houses in order to trap and kill our soldiers.

the whole district is 70*70 meters yet  the pals laid almost 10 tons of charges and boobytraps! im talking about everydoor, window, trashcan, sewer lid, cars, electricity poles etc. were charged. im talkin about 6 year olds that threw on the soldiers bags with delayed timing charges.

there wasnt a need to use heavy weapons, the pals did it themselves.

again, about this commitee. as i said, we've got nothing to hide, and i believe that the commitee will come and investigate it. although i believe that if the media couldnt show any pics. of a slaughter, i doubt the commitee would find anything new.

the redcross is in and working and as i said, asked for help to clear all the charges that were left around and the explosive belts that were left on the bodies.

edit: the pals started claiming that more then 1000 civvies were dead.

after the went around with the media, they lowered the claim to 200 including gunmen. hm.... how odd.

one other thing. what do u say about the media sayiing "oh, all the horrors that must be happening there, it must be like serbrenica" etc. etc.

doesnt it strike you odd that they were hinting towards a massacre even thought they hadnt got any clue?

no matter what would be found, the damage is already done.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Booby trapped their houses? How dare they! They should open doors and windows to welcome the invaders!  

So if they booby-trapped the houses of civillians, you admit that also civillians were trapped in Jenin. And you Bulldozed down their homes. Is Israel gonna give any finances to the people that have lost their homes? It would be immoral not do so!

Tough luck for the poor palestinians right?

[scout 0]

civilians were evaced out of any house we could evac them out, althought there were houses we couldnt get to, and that were blown by "work accidents" of the pals.

the point is that they decided to use a heavily populated area as a defence, using the civilians while endagering them with their own boobytraps.

actual bulldozing was used scarcely and only after making sure that the residents were away.

about any financing i might ask you if your willing to pay for any damages done to Iraq in the gulf war?

do you pay your enemy after the war for any damages done to him by you?

does anyone in the PA is paying any damages done to any of our structures by suicide bombers?

if u demand something it should be demanded from both sides no?

[KingBeast 0]

Didnt the Allies spend millions helping to rebuild germany after the second world war?

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

So you are at war with palestine!

I thought you were fighting terorism. BTW Germany is one of the countries with the highest financial inflow into humanitarian projects and organisations. Are you gonna pay the european union for the buildings you bombed in palestine (that were financed by EU)?

[scout 0]

isnt it a war? when an authority is funding and sponsoring terror, how else do you call it? its a war against a terrorist authority! didnt you hear a thing? we fight terrorist organization that are sposored by the PA, terrorist organizations that are the PA! sure its a war!

when the PA will decide to stop acting like a terrorist organization then there wont be need for any such actions.

BTW. u're talking about the same buildings that were used as arsenals? the same building that stored weapons and explosives? the same ones that from there suicide bombers were sent? ofcourse we will pay, otherwise how the PA would be able to restore these bunkers?

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 24 2002,04:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">isnt it a war? when an authority is funding and sponsoring terror, how else do you call it? its a war against a terrorist authority! didnt you hear a thing? we fight terrorist organization that are sposored by the PA, terrorist organizations that are the PA! sure its a war!

when the PA will decide to stop acting like a terrorist organization then there wont be need for any such actions.

BTW. u're talking about the same buildings that were used as arsenals? the same building that stored weapons and explosives? the same ones that from there suicide bombers were sent? ofcourse we will pay, otherwise how the PA would be able to restore these bunkers?  <span id='postcolor'>

I gotta go to bed. It is damm late here already, or damm early! See ya !