The boast-about-your-fave-fighting-force-thread

[Benze 0]

The USMC- of the five major tactical inovations of the 20th century groud war, panzerblitz, airborne insertion, amphibious assault, CAS, airmobility/vertical envelopment, three were invented (with the slight exception of amphibious assault) by the USMC.

The British tried an amphibious assault at Gallipoli but it was a failure. The USMC has since used perfected it. It is practically the trademark of the marines.

The concept of CAS was invented by the marines and used extensively in the 1920 bannana wars.

Airmobility was invented by the USMC and used a lot after Korea, and now every country on earth has it's own form of it.

Woot! Your turn.

[Placebo 29]

Hmm these look pretty tough

[Tovarish 0]

Bah! Few armies invade as many homes as they do:

[InRange 1]

I'm not British, but the SAS was the first elite force

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ April 02 2002,21:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bah! Few armies invade as many homes as they do:

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yup...and they are quite effective!

[Paratrooper 0]

The USA DID NOT invent any of those things, im sick of "Military experts" talking utter crap on this forum.

I don't know where you got that shit from but it really gets my goat.

[Placebo 29]

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SOE came well before SAS

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ April 02 2002,23:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The USA DID NOT invent any of those things, im sick of "Military experts" talking utter crap on this forum.

I don't know where you got that shit from but it really gets my goat.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh really? They might not have invented all of them per se. For example, the British accomplished an amphibious landing at Gallipoli... And what a smashing success that was.

However, the Marines went from one end of the Pacific to the other, refining the concept of amphibious assaults into an art form. And btw, Id put Recon Marines up against anybody in the world.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 03 2002,00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And btw, Id put Recon Marines up against anybody in the world.<span id='postcolor'>

When I was in the service (1998), we had an exercise with NATO (Partnership for Peace) in Norway. The different units and countrys were ranked.

We from A-dyk (Swedish attack divers) came in first.

Our comrades the Kustjägarna (Swedish marines) came in second.

I think some Italian alpine guys came in third.

The US Marines were among the last, since they got lost in the woods <!--emo& We had some good laughs about that.

I heard that last year some unit from Croatia ( sic! ) came in first.

But to be serious, the US Marines that I have met seemed to be competent chaps, so there is nothing wrong with them. You just shouldn't leave them alone in a Norwegian forrest

[§nake 0]

6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 03 2002,006)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 02 2002,23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> And btw, Id put Recon Marines up against anybody in the world.<span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'>

I don't know...  My cousin is a Marine..  and as hard as he said it was..  the only thing that brought him through was the bible.  But I know from massive reading that the GSG-9 Mountain Training is one of the most difficult training excersises in the world..  physically speaking.

All for all, I'd say the SEALs, they are the elite black ops force of the US, the teams are formed from transfered soldiers from the Marine Force Recon, Navy Intel, Army Delta... it's like a gouping of pure badass... thumbs up to them boys in afgan land.

[ChickenHawk 0]

SBS were the first to do the SEALS job & their training is even harder than the SAS.

Dance my lil monkey men dance !!

[KingBeast 0]

People always tend to pretend that the SAS and SBS dont actually exist, so that they can preach about some other "elite" unit

[Cloney 0]

I don't think there is a best... It all depends on what you do. Many units are very specialized in what they do.

For example.

You want to sieze and airfield? Army Rangers or 82nd Abn.

You want to assault a Terrorist compound in the middle of the African desert? SAS or Delta

You want to sieze an airfield and hold it for a long period of time? USMC

You want to train guerillas to overthrow the enemy government? US Army Special Forces

You want to make love to the women and drink wine and make friends with everyone? French Army

You want to loot and burn the city you just liberated? Egyptian or Syrian Army

You want to absolutley positively kill every mutha fucka in the room? GSG-9

You want to sabotage a ship or board a ship and capture the crew? Navy SEALs.

[Mjřlner 0]

Are you joking? I can't tell...

[Guest]

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FAMAS... ribbed for her pleasure

[§nake 0]

I'll trade ya my Colt for your Famas

Come on, I'll even throw in the 40mm grenade launcher for free..

(lesson learned: nobody beats the US in cold hard steel)

[Assault (CAN) 1]

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LMAO

Seriously though.....

I'll even throw in the 3.5x Elcan scope!

[§nake 0]

I dunno... the scope is a little much... it would get in the way.. lol

how about... this..

old news.... new design...

[§nake 0]

you know.. I've even asked a Lieutenant from the Airborne about those babies... all they do is deny deny deny... I went to D.C. last summer for a school trip... we went to a military tatoo (damned they have some good rifleman there) and there were 2 guys, each possessing an M4 with a camera mounted on top, and their helmet had the lens attached over the right eye... and the cords all went to this tiny box on their side... (a 3GHz Supercomputer, at that time, fast)... but it really ticked me off.. I was hoping for the OICW.. and they show me that... SHEESH... ah well... I am sure that we shall see the OICW further in the Urban Battles to come.

[scout 0]

u know........

all these nice gadgets are prone to melfunction at the worst time......

gimmie a simple M4 everyday.

though a 40mm launcher would be a nice add-on

[Tovarish 0]

.....you guys done posting pictures of pea-shooters yet?

[USSoldier11B 0]

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The USMC- of the five major tactical inovations of the 20th century groud war, panzerblitz, airborne insertion,<span id='postcolor'>

The USMC does not, I repeat, does not have any conventional airborne units. The only units in the Marine Corps that uses parachutes is Force Recon and the Marine equivalent of Rangers (forget what they are called)

Every Marine I know whines about how thier gear sucks and how underfunded they are. US Special Forces are the best equipped most trained force in the U.S. Takes approx 1 1/2 years to complete all of the training. I have to say that the British 22nd SAS is the priemer CT unit in the world though.

[Benze 0]

I didn't say they had any airborne units.

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 03 2002,05:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Every Marine I know whines about how thier gear sucks and how underfunded they are.<span id='postcolor'>

AFAIK, USMC are equal with other nation's forces. But their logistics support is well-prepared and systemized, and that makes USMC so lethal.

LOL...they complain about their logistics?!?

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 03 2002,00:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 03 2002,00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And btw, Id put Recon Marines up against anybody in the world.<span id='postcolor'>

When I was in the service (1998), we had an exercise with NATO (Partnership for Peace) in Norway. The different units and countrys were ranked.

We from A-dyk (Swedish attack divers) came in first.

Our comrades the Kustjägarna (Swedish marines) came in second.

I think some Italian alpine guys came in third.

The US Marines were among the last, since they got lost in the woods <!--emo& We had some good laughs about that.

I heard that last year some unit from Croatia ( sic! ) came in first.

But to be serious, the US Marines that I have met seemed to be competent chaps, so there is nothing wrong with them. You just shouldn't leave them alone in a Norwegian forrest <span id='postcolor'>

are you sure USMCs were lost? they could be taking their leisure time. They don't know the beauty of Norwegian forrest, so when they started that competition, they could have thought "Screw competition! we'll enjoy this beautiful place!"