Too many Pub servers banning Vopsound!

[l mandrake 9]

Madness.

About half the public servers won't let you join with the Vopsound 2.1 mod installed. Most experienced players (i.e. not Tking noobs) use this mod, so why for the love of Whomever so many 'admins' are 'frightened' of allowing this mod I cannot imagine.

A 100% guaranteed way to keep client numbers down on your servers, way to go guys. :confused:

[dustoff 0]

the main problem is in getting the server keys to work the right way. Many have tried but few have gotten the thing to work right. Most of the servers allowing are not checking keys.

the way they say (vopsound makers) to do it does not work .

[Langnasen 10]

I've been wondering why the hell VOIP isn't enabled on any server on which I've played. So I guess this is something else BI managed to completely pork. :rolleyes:

[{USI}_Zombie 0]

I've been wondering why the hell VOIP isn't enabled on any server on which I've played. So I guess this is something else BI managed to completely pork. :rolleyes:

BI has nothing to do with it. VOP is a community made mod. VOIP on the other hand works on every server I've ever been to.

There are 3 solutions to VOP not being allowed:

a) server admins need to get their brain around the keys

b) don't enable VOP then you can play most anywhere

or

c) buy your own server then you can enable anything you want, as long as you don't mind griefers, cheaters and assorted other lower life forms. That's why most servers won't allow addons

[Taxman 10]

As a server admin......

We prefer Everyone to play on a level playing field, so although we dont have sigs enabled IF we see someone entering server that has a mod that we feel is either suspect or giving them an unfair advantage we then ask player to remove them, if they do not wish to do that then, they can play on a diff server... Normally we allow most sound mods but it depends on what you have running with it. Nobody gets banned, they are asked to leave and rejoin without the mod..

I would never enable voip on our server.... cause u always get some juvenile that wants to scream summat over the comms... .... been playing this game and ofp long enough to realise you need to stop those idiots.

OUR server is a PVP server (90% CTF) so it is in everyones interest that we all play on a level playing field.... obviously this is diff with regards to Coop.

[l mandrake 9]

BI has nothing to do with it. VOP is a community made mod. VOIP on the other hand works on every server I've ever been to.

There are 3 solutions to VOP not being allowed:

a) server admins need to get their brain around the keys

b) don't enable VOP then you can play most anywhere

or

c) buy your own server then you can enable anything you want, as long as you don't mind griefers, cheaters and assorted other lower life forms. That's why most servers won't allow addons

(a) agreed - hence my post :rolleyes:

(b) stating the obvious :rolleyes:

(c1) Irrelevant to this discussion :rolleyes:

(c2) signed + tested addons are not a threat to servers. :rolleyes:

[Zipper5 74]

The main issue for server admins is keeping cheaters and griefers away from their servers. By enabling key checks and only allowing certain mods, or none at all, this helps to keep them at bay until anti-cheating software is integrated. Or it could simply be that they don't want anyone to use addons that might give them an advantage over the other, which VopSound could due to the differing volume levels from them to the default sounds.

And really, it's up to the server admins. Not many servers have allowed mods in OFP, ArmA nor ArmA II. Some servers post what mods you can and can't use on their servers in these forums or their own website/forums, so if you want to go on to one such as Kellys Heroes, you can go to their website and find out which mods are and are not allowed. Others, however, don't have this, and that you'll just have to live with.

[-DirTyDeeDs--Ziggy- 0]

We prefer Everyone to play on a level playing field, so although we dont have sigs enabled IF we see someone entering server that has a mod that we feel is either suspect or giving them an unfair advantage we then ask player to remove them, if they do not wish to do that then, they can play on a diff server...

LOL!

I appreciate your intent, but at the same time it's silly to me.

If you were truly out for a level playing field then limit anyone using a gtx200 series card or better from playing on your server, theres your unfair advantage!

a player using a mid range computer does not have the same performance as a player with a high end machine and this impacts your level playing field.

everyone has access to mods, thats equal opportunity.

:yin-yang:

[brit~XR 0]

The XR warfare servers have the key for the vop 2.1 mod but for some reason some people can get on and some cant. Need to look into it.

[mr burns 132]

The XR warfare servers have the key for the vop 2.1 mod but for some reason some people can get on and some cant. Need to look into it.

Have a look here

[brit~XR 0]

Have a look here

Ok thanks. We sort it out sometime tonight

[nzjono 10]

As a server admin......

I would never enable voip on our server.... cause u always get some juvenile that wants to scream summat over the comms... .... been playing this game and ofp long enough to realise you need to stop those idiots.

Huh?? He was talking about VOPSOUND not VOIP. Server admin rofl. :confused:

Having a sound mod does not change the 'level playing field' in the slightest.

Read the thread topic more carefully next time before posting 'server admin' lol

Edited October 4, 2009 by nzjono

[Langnasen 10]

So the provided in-game VOIP (the provided one, not a mod) is banned because a minority of tards abuse it? And there we have it again, the minority of spoilers dictating to the majority of genuine users what they can and cannot have.

Society and it's laws are fostered on the same principle, and look where we are with that now.

I would think there to be a far better solution; perma-ban VOIP abusers whenever and wherever they're caught. It would take a while, but within a few weeks they'd all be gone and then the genuine players could enjoy one of the game's most fundamentally important components.

By banning VOIP you've handed victory to the jerkoffs on a plate.

[Deadfast 43]

So the provided in-game VOIP...

This thread is not about VON (Voice Over Network) or VOIP (Voice Over IP) or whatever you wish to call the voice chat.

It is about a sound mod...:rolleyes:

[tcp 10]

In other words, there's three different keys for VOP sounds. The broken 2.1 key, the "hotfix" reused 2.0 key, and the repack key.

There's also the VOP-compatible sound packs that require their own keys, but I've also seen done as combo-pack with a unified key (probably since they figured VOP keys were too much of a mess).

So, supporting VOP can mean many different things.

[Langnasen 10]

Well, I guess to put my points back on topic I could ask the obvious...why is a modded VOIP considered necessary if the one provided with the game works ok?

Especially as adding a mod VOIP risks having one excluded from a number of servers where mods/add-ons aren't permitted?

[tcp 10]

@Langnasen: For your reading pleasure:

This thread is not about VON (Voice Over Network) or VOIP (Voice Over IP) or whatever you wish to call the voice chat.

It is about a sound mod...:rolleyes:

VopSound is different from VOIP (Voice Over IP).

The reason VOIP is sometimes disabled is because most units use an external voice program such as TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, or Mumble. It also reduces lag to have it disabled. Anyone interested in teamwork will probably take the time to go to the server's website and get the voice chat information. It's also easier to moderate an external program as you suggest.

[Defunkt 431]

EDIT: What he said.

[whisper 0]

Well, I guess to put my points back on topic I could ask the obvious...why is a modded VOIP considered necessary if the one provided with the game works ok?

Especially as adding a mod VOIP risks having one excluded from a number of servers where mods/add-ons aren't permitted?

Could you please stop trying to find any flaw ArmA2 can have to point out how bad it is?

VoPSound Mod has nothing to do with VoIP. It replaces some in-game sounds, nothing to do with players using VoIP.....

[Langnasen 10]

Ah, the penny finally drops. Sorry, some major confusion went on there.

I had a look at the mod, listened to the Youtube of it. Very very nice indeed. :)

[Taxman 10]

Huh?? He was talking about VOPSOUND not VOIP. Server admin rofl. :confused:

Having a sound mod does not change the 'level playing field' in the slightest.

Read the thread topic more carefully next time before posting 'server admin' lol

Yeah server admin and im also able to read,,,, you should try it.

I've been wondering why the hell VOIP isn't enabled on any server on which I've played. So I guess this is something else BI managed to completely pork. :rolleyes:

He asked so I answered.. which is why I covered both topics.. get over yourself (if that is possible)

Having a sound mod does not change the 'level playing field' in the slightest.

As a server admin......

Normally we allow most sound mods but it depends on what you have running with it. Nobody gets banned, they are asked to leave and rejoin without the mod..

.

Try "READING" posts yourself b4 you go attacking people.

Regards to sound mods not giving a level playing field, IF you do your homework in previous sound mods you were able to "cheat" by editing the sound files.

Edited October 5, 2009 by Taxman

[Aelin 10]

too many servers banning a mod!!!???????

too many servers banning players!!!!