Ban me. I dont care. this is BIS (oops i mean BS)

[Eppidemic 10]

I love putting 4 hours in a mission only to have my last save point befor the end of that mission become corrupt and freeze 5 seconds after I load it. On the harvest mission. I got 3/4 way through and had the stupid helo pilot crash it into a tree cause he decided to land 100m off mark. Then. Later in that mission when I asked him to drop the squad off next to one of the "X's". The pilot for some unknown reason gets out of the helo? WTF? When I try to send my squad to it they say negative. I cant fly it. and after 1min or so. the commander comes over the intercome and says it's been destroyed. Even though its sitting right next to me? And the pilot is just standing there like an idiot.

......Oh, an hour or so later I'm at the last part of the mission. Just got done driving 15 minutes to get there cause my helo got "destroyed". and I decide I want to save it before I go blazing into Gesko (or whatever its called). What a mistake that was. cause the game froze in mid save and when I restart form that point the game freezes again.

I'm so pissed!! If i didnt buy Arma off Steam. I would have pulled the DVD out and frizbied it out the window. UUUGGG!

Please Fix For Christ Sake!!!!!!!!!

[Gunter Severloh 4067]

your topic title speaks for your frustration, wish to caustion u on that be more subtle and specif, but i can understand what you are dealing with, there are lots of ways to fix this game, alot dpens on your computer too, but mission wise this is why i build my own missions, learn the editor my friend best thing you will ever do in this game.

Edited September 27, 2009 by Gnter Severloh

[InFireBaptize 0]

why the title? you have a legitimate concern but a lot before you posted the exact same concern! as the poster before me suggested, use the mission editor or better yet download user missions like Siege the Tower, there are many amazing user created mission you can download off the completed mission section or play the scenarios.

[ProfTournesol 956]

Contrary to what your title implies, mods here never ban people having trouble with the game, as long as the flaming isn't the main purpose.

[NeMeSiS 11]

I love putting 4 hours in a mission only to have my last save point befor the end of that mission become corrupt and freeze 5 seconds after I load it. On the harvest mission. I got 3/4 way through and had the stupid helo pilot crash it into a tree cause he decided to land 100m off mark. Then. Later in that mission when I asked him to drop the squad off next to one of the "X's". The pilot for some unknown reason gets out of the helo? WTF? When I try to send my squad to it they say negative. I cant fly it. and after 1min or so. the commander comes over the intercome and says it's been destroyed. Even though its sitting right next to me? And the pilot is just standing there like an idiot.

......Oh, an hour or so later I'm at the last part of the mission. Just got done driving 15 minutes to get there cause my helo got "destroyed". and I decide I want to save it before I go blazing into Gesko (or whatever its called). What a mistake that was. cause the game froze in mid save and when I restart form that point the game freezes again.

I'm so pissed!! If i didnt buy Arma off Steam. I would have pulled the DVD out and frizbied it out the window. UUUGGG!

Please Fix For Christ Sake!!!!!!!!!

Just because it didnt blow up doesnt mean it still works.

[tobmic 10]

I'm so pissed!! If i didnt buy Arma off Steam. I would have pulled the DVD out and frizbied it out the window. UUUGGG!

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Give me your steam account then :- )

[Bulldogs 10]

There's nothing wrong with complaining, although you should put it in the right place, IE; not the troubleshooting forums.

[Deadfast 43]

In the light of the recent information did you mean further?

[Eppidemic 10]

I was really frustrated last night.

I will try some of those mission mods you guys speak of. Could someone please point me in the right direction to download and install those? I love Arma2's game play and would love some well put together missions.

Thank you

[sle 0]

Don't worry mate, rash decisions are easy to make on the internet when we're frustrated. You could have done a lot worse than buy this game, believe me. There's a lot of shit out there that doesn't come close to A2 even though this game still needs work.

What I usually do, and it happened with a bug on Manhattan, is to give up for a bit and play something else. Come back to it in a week or more and try again, with new patches and after the benefit of a break. This game is great, but can take a lot of work!

[no use for a name 0]

I was really frustrated last night.

I will try some of those mission mods you guys speak of. Could someone please point me in the right direction to download and install those? I love Arma2's game play and would love some well put together missions.

Thank you

www.armaholic.com or go to the Arma2 mods: complete section in the forums and search around

[viibez 10]

The only thing DR shares with OFP is the name. Those of you expecting a game like OFP need to take the blinders off, DR will be nothing like OFP.

DR is a limited arcade shooter (by all accounts) LOL TURN IT UP!

You can start with the fact that you can only have 63 AI (maximum) in the editor. (Now That is something i dont want to hear :()

Eth

Lol im sure DR wont be ""a limited arcade shooter (by all accounts)"" but obviously not as major as A2. (cos u would need 2 pc's with 4 G.cards to run it!) :p

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Yeah Epi i hear your cries, i have spent ridiculous amount of hours in that campaign so frustrating. So far, i am (was) into the second day (yes i spent all day & night in game time, was bloody hard till i got Nightvision) about 7am second day my Ai were acting like noodles so i wanted to re-load my save so i hit suspend and then revert to bring up my save menu, instead it deleted my saved games list and started the campaign from the beginning!!! i had 3 towns left to seize.. U want ANGER i got it :eek:

[bangtail 0]

Lol im sure DR wont be ""a limited arcade shooter (by all accounts)"" but obviously not as major as A2. (cos u would need 2 pc's with 4 G.cards to run it!) :p

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Yeah Epi i hear your cries, i have spent ridiculous amount of hours in that campaign so frustrating. So far, i am (was) into the second day (yes i spent all day & night in game time, was bloody hard till i got Nightvision) about 7am second day my Ai were acting like noodles so i wanted to re-load my save so i hit suspend and then revert to bring up my save menu, instead it deleted my saved games list and started the campaign from the beginning!!! i had 3 towns left to seize.. U want ANGER i got it :eek:

It is a limited arcade shooter. All the available evidence points in that direction, and it's not like I expected ANYTHING less from CM. Did you really think that they were going to back anything that wasn't palatable to the mainstream console gamer?

Small/limited map

Small amount of units allowed in editor at any one time

Unfriendly editor with limited flexibility

Tethering

I could go on

All this screams linear, limited and uninspired.

Enjoy :p

A lot of the problems with A2 are no fault of the game and down to user error. Does that mean there aren't problems? Absolutely not, but I'd put at least 50% of them down to the user (and I'm being conservative there).

It runs great for plenty of people, myself included.

Eth

Edited September 29, 2009 by BangTail

[Herbal Influence 10]

Yeah, ethne and AAD10 Pete, I fully appreciate your posts.

I don't need a path to follow.

I love BI games for their vast openess to all, bugs included.

Real life is buggy too.

And I didn't meet any bugs in AA2 since long.

Aside from those caused by missionmakers:

Will I ever blame them for that? ;-))

Edited September 29, 2009 by Planck
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[bangtail 0]

Yeah, ethne and AAD10 Pete, I fully appreciate your posts.

I don't need a path to follow.

I love BI games for their vast openess to all, bugs included.

Real life is buggy to.

And I didn't meet any bugs in AA2 since long.

Aside from those caused by missionmakers:

Will I ever blame them for that? ;-))

I will certainly agree that there were some teething problems for A2 but considering how elaborate it is, that isn't surprising.

BI are the only software house that make a sandbox milsim. If we don't support them, we will be overrun with MW/BF2 clones.

And for the record, I loved MW for the 4 or 5 hours of SP I played. Those games are just like movies and there is nothing wrong with that. They provide a brief (yet entertaining) distraction from the humdrum that is life.

Too many people judge A2 on the SP and campaign; and as the more initiated among us know, that is just the tip of the iceberg ;)

The SECOP module is worth $40.00 on it's own. I have endless fun tooling around with that.

Eth

Edited September 29, 2009 by BangTail

[ProfTournesol 956]

@ ethne : you see that some guys obviously registered here only to troll the forum. I know it's hard not to react to them but that's what they are waiting for, so we should simply ignore them.

[vilas 477]

@ ethne : you see that some guys obviously registered here only to troll the forum. I know it's hard not to react to them but that's what they are waiting for, so we should simply ignore them.

but you should know that for many players Arma is a game that they "just wanna play" and they are not OFP veterans like us

so they buy game, they start to play and ... notice one problem, notice second and get angry

when i get OFP in 2002 i was so angry too , i get back to OFP after year when my neighbour showed me editor and he talk to me that we both can do bus for it

before it OFP was 1.20 and tragic AI was runing through the wall or building or killing me from 500 meters by one shot from AKS74U

OFP was "total crap" than, but in 2004 it was 1.75, and my friend showed me other face of OFP

so this complaining topic starter is new here, he may not know that BIS games are different than other games cause supporting creative people

so if someone looks at this game as 100 other games, he may have problem

for me SP in Arma1 and Arma2 are poor, OFP SP campaign and missions were super

but newbies don't realise that Arma is "do yourself" product, it is engine that allows us to realise our wishes :)

not "closed structure product"

BIS created something unique - community which hold together for many years

other games have othe community

you know it is like with music

if someone listen to "pop"(ular) music - he is used that every month there is a "new star" and after half year "who remember X, Y or Z song"

while other people listen to other music and for example "this album i heard 1000 times, this record has 14 years and in 2-3 years they will visit my country for show"

the same is OFP/Arma vs. rest of world

newbie will have attitude from other games forums, other games that exist half year maximum, while OFP is 8 years old :D

newbie is not used to use other side of BIS games

one face of BIS games is : buggy side with many unrealistic errors

other face, most important is : you can fix many things, you can add your own things, you can improve yours skills, you can be creative and you can creat own missions and play with your neighbours :)

first face makes me angry sometimes, second face of BIS games holds me here for 5 years and other games are 2-3 days "stupify" accidents 2-3 times in year (time spent on other games in past last years i can count in "few days", before OFP i was still playing RTCW and AVP cause they had "feeling" , all those CODs, SOFs and many many other were just 2 days break from OFP/Arma) :]

Edited September 29, 2009 by vilas

[Herbal Influence 10]

I think you are absolutely right, vilas.

Many ol' 2001-vets - like me - are simply too rigid.

Much more we should embrace newcomers and be patient and give them hints how to appreciate the vast openess of BI games. Their - and now our - philosophy.

It's obviously hard to understand though people nowadays should know the thought of "Web 2.0" = user delivered content.

It's obivously hard to stand the freedom, not only in games.

I write this without any sense of elite attitude.

It's really hard.

Always.

Take a look out of your room's window.

But if you gathered your courage it's even more fun than you could imagine! ;-)

Edited September 29, 2009 by Herbal Influence

[vilas 477]

few words for topic starter:

you can call this bug shit, other bug shit, you will find third bug and call it shit - i agree, even more, i can show you 20 more bugs of BIS which made me mad and angry few time

but after my anger i know one thing- there is no other game which has mission editor to easy create missions that i want, there is no other game in which i drive this car, change to that car, than enter building which i can destruct by tank \

there is no other game in which i will see soldiers of my country

and thats why although i am angry on BIS mistakes i am here for 5 years

so if Eppidemic found 3 bugs, i can show him 20 more bugs (BIS screwed weapons ranges completely), but will it change this other side, simply BIS has no competition

you can flame BIS, but you have no other game like this one, there is no other game in which you easy do mission, easy do addon

BIS advertises Arma2 as "ultimate military simulator" which is not, i think they should advertise it by it's creative ability :)

if i want soldier from 1914 only OPF/Arma 1-2 allows me to have such one

if i want do mission like "found vodka bottle in wood and go back with Trabant or tractor" no other game allows me

in OFP i could drive on mad cow :D i had Lego warriors, i had balloon, i had 8 wheeled Trabant and in Arma 1 i had Santa-claus with M16

NOONE else have such product :)

Eppidemic if you want game about "brave american soldier marine vs. bad terrorist on desert" you have CoDs, SOFs, but if you want Czech soldier, Polish soldier, German soldier, Swedish soldier.... Volga, Jeep ... , sheriff, wild west, public transportation BUS - you don't have choice , only BIS

other games focus on "modern war in gulf" or "CIA killer in bunker of bad terrorists" or "ww2"

this game allows you to see something from 1864 to 2100

this game even had dinosaurs in OFP

maaaaan, can you imagine dinosaur in game ?

it was in OFP

shame that many many great projects were not in Arma1, are not looking to be in Arma 2

i am missing Lego warriors, i am missing dinosaurs, i am missing Star Wars and Tyberian i miss 100 other things, even mad cow, even cow-gun "milk that muthaf***"

Milk that muth**** is something which i remember all the time

people who created all those mad, funny, crazy addons for OFP are my idols

Eppidemic please open mission editor, please try do some missions, you will find fun in it

you will give us fun to play your missions

in OFP there were thousands of user-created missions

in Arma 1 ... much much much less ;(

i hope in Arma 2 will be again thousands

Eppidemic please open mission editor and do something for us

Edited September 29, 2009 by vilas

[Planck 1]

This doesn't seem to fit here, nothing specific to troubleshoot.

More like a rant, will close, as it isn't doing anything useful.

Planck