Royal marines awarded us medal of honor..

[Wobble 1]

for saving that CIA guy during an afghan prison riot (the one where that other dude was killed I guess)..

WTG brits!!

P.S. anyone else got any info on this, I just saw the headline on Yahoo news but the link was dead ??

[madmike 0]

I read it was 4 SAS guys that got awarded, are you sure you are sure???

Another SAS guy got a VC for bravery and is the 2nd in history to recieve one whilst still alive.

He was attacking caves and got hit or shot in the leg but continued to fight

[Wobble 1]

You may be right mike, like I said all I saw was the headling but the link was dead..

regardless.. outstanding work.

[madmike 0]

Ive been out on exercise for the last week so Im not totally up to date on whats happening.

I only just found out that the Royal Marines had been deployed to help the US clear the caves

[Wobble 1]

yea, the afghan allies have proven woefully unreliable, during anaconda MANY of their leaders just decided not to show up.. and didnt bother telling anyone about it.. so the brits are gonna take their place (to a degree)

[Joe Porta 0]

Here's a link to more info on that.

http://www.itv.com/news/Front13994881.html

[madmike 0]

OK it was SBS rather than SAS, the papers always mix the two up.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

Both SAS and SBS own!

[ralphwiggum 6]

so, they save ppls lives and all they get is 'Medal of Honor' from Electronic Arts? a computer game???   bbbwwaaahh!!!

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sorry for lame joke

[ChickenHawk 0]

I've got one of those.

[Placebo 29]

LMAO well if they throw in the blood mod and real weapon sounds mod it's a fair deal

[nordin dk 0]

I feel a strong urge to post my SCS picture again.

You know those guys are the toughest special forces in the world...

[Stealt Eagle 1]

well not to be nationalistic, but one of the special forces in the world, are probably the danish Jćgerkorps translated Huntercorps, they're trained to survive and kill alone out in the forests, they're also presently in Afghanistan

[Supah 0]

Im dutch and i sincerrelly doubt we have special forces at all and if so its just marines with better lighters The dutch army is too small i think to have a serious special forces on the level of the US en Great Britain.

[Hilandor 1]

yep the news in the UK said that it was 5 sbs (special boat service) soldiers that got the Medal of Honour whilst under fire from 500 + taliban soldiers managed to rescue the cia agent, unfortunelty for the sas and sbs etc they cannot name thos who got the medal but yeah it was good to hear.

I dont understand how boat service is in middle of desert tho ??

[Gorgi Knootewoot 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (supah @ Mar. 27 2002,11:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im dutch and i sincerrelly doubt we have special forces at all and if so its just marines with better lighters The dutch army is too small i think to have a serious special forces on the level of the US en Great Britain.<span id='postcolor'>

I am Dutch too, and i know we have a special force. They supplie the US special forces with fresh coffee and food. Our ehrm.. goverment is too scared of letting them into a fight. When they do get into a fight, they are getting stupid questions from reporters like:

Are they really going into battle?

Could it be that there is going to be a Dutch casualty?

And those dumb questions arrise BEFORE they are even sent into battle. But they are trained very well, but because of those chickenshit leaders we have they almost never seen any battle.

[Stag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hilandor @ Mar. 26 2002,15:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I dont understand how boat service is in middle of desert tho ??<span id='postcolor'>

The boat was special.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

If a person deserves an award, by all means, give it to them. However, Im worried that for political purposes, these medals are losing the gravity for which they have stood ofr so long. For example, everyones heard of Alvin York, right? Heres his official citation:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Rank and organization: Corporal, U.S. Army, Company G, 328th Infantry, 82d Division. Place and date: Near Chatel-Chehery, France, 8 October 1918. Entered service at: Pall Mall, Tenn. Born: 13 December 1887, Fentress County, Tenn. G.O. No.: 59, W.D., 1919. Citation: After his platoon had suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machinegun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machinegun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns.

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Pretty heavy stuff, right?

I dont know the circumstances under which the Royal Marines rescued the CIA guy, so I cant make a judgement as to whether or not they deserve the Medal Of Honor (They probably do), I just want to remind everyone what it means to be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor

[Erex 0]

Only few things to say to this:

SBS ans SAS guys: well done, as usual  

As far as i know when soldire recive congree medall of honor muss every soldier salute him first (it doesnt depend if the beares is pvt and the 2nd soldier genreal).

Does anyone know anything closer about this?

[Tex -USMC- 0]

I dont think it is required that the CMOH recipient be saluted, however, because of the accomplishments that warrant a CMOH, some soldiers may feel obliged to salute the recipient, because the CMOH is the mark of a truely courageous man

[madmike 0]

Is the CMOH as high as a VC becuase most people that get a VC are dead. Only 2 have had them whilst still alive.

I think the Gurkhas have the most becuase they fight to the death so are very brave

[Tex -USMC- 0]

The CMOH is the highest honor that can be given for military service, so yes, it is equivalent to the VC in some ways.

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/moh1.htm

that is a complete listing of CMOH citations throughout US military history. You will find that many of the awards are given for extreme acts of self-sacrifice, i.e. throwing one's self onto a grenade to save your platoon. heres one:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AUSTIN, OSCAR P.

Rank and organization: Private First Class, U.S. Marine Corps, Company E, 2d Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Marine Division, (Rein), FMF. Place and date: West of Da Nang, Republic of Vietnam, 23 February 1969. Entered service at: Phoenix, Ariz. Born: 15 January 1948, Nacogdoches, Tex. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as an assistant machine gunner with Company E, in connection with operations against enemy forces. During the early morning hours Pfc. Austin's observation post was subjected to a fierce ground attack by a large North Vietnamese Army force supported by a heavy volume of hand grenades, satchel charges, and small arms fire. Observing that 1 of his wounded companions had fallen unconscious in a position dangerously exposed to the hostile fire, Pfc. Austin unhesitatingly left the relative security of his fighting hole and, with complete disregard for his safety, raced across the fire-swept terrain to assist the marine to a covered location. As he neared the casualty, he observed an enemy grenade land nearby and, reacting instantly, leaped between the injured marine and the lethal object, absorbing the effects of its detonation. As he ignored his painful injuries and turned to examine the wounded man, he saw a North Vietnamese Army soldier aiming a weapon at his unconscious companion. With full knowledge of the probable consequences and thinking only to protect the marine, Pfc. Austin resolutely threw himself between the casualty and the hostile soldier, and, in doing, was mortally wounded. Pfc. Austin's indomitable courage, inspiring initiative and selfless devotion to duty upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the U.S. Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life for his country.

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on that website, the citations with astericks were awarded posthumously. You will notice that there are alot of these.

[Erex 0]

There is lot of sad storie to read

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">*YOUNG, RODGER W.

Rank and organization: Private, U.S. Army, 148th Infantry, 37th Infantry Division. Place and date: On New Georgia, Solomon Islands, 31 July 1943. Entered service at: Clyde, Ohio. Birth: Tiffin, Ohio. G.O. No.: 3, 6 January 1944. Citation: On 31 July 1943, the infantry company of which Pvt. Young was a member, was ordered to make a limited withdrawal from the battle line in order to adjust the battalion's position for the night. At this time, Pvt. Young's platoon was engaged with the enemy in a dense jungle where observation was very limited. The platoon suddenly was pinned down by intense fire from a Japanese machinegun concealed on higher ground only 75 yards away. The initial burst wounded Pvt. Young. As the platoon started to obey the order to withdraw, Pvt. Young called out that he could see the enemy emplacement, whereupon he started creeping toward it. Another burst from the machinegun wounded him the second time. Despite the wounds, he continued his heroic advance, attracting enemy fire and answering with rifle fire. When he was close enough to his objective, he began throwing handgrenades, and while doing so was hit again and killed. Pvt. Young's bold action in closing with this Japanese pillbox and thus diverting its fire, permitted his platoon to disengage itself, without loss, and was responsible for several enemy casualties.

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Anyone who has ever read the Starship troopers book (not seen the sh..y movie) does know what im talking about.

[madmike 0]

Colonel H Jones must be the one person awarded the VC tht sticks in my mind.

I tried copying and pasting from britains smallwars but it wont let me

[Paratrooper 0]

WTF? You don't only get the VC when you die, or even in most instances. I don't know where you got that crap from.