mosh 0 Posted August 28, 2009 It also contributes greatly to that attitude some admins have developed: "Fuck you, rent your own server." And that is what it boils down to. (there are too many good replies to quote them all) Apparently a couple people in this thread have there own delusions on how THEY would run a server... well then, go fucking rent one and run it your way. A few server admins were nice enough to explain why they don't use addons. If you don't like it, so what? I DID use signed addons for my servers, but not to please anyone but myself, but I have decided to quit hosting my rented PvP server (not because of whiners like above, but because of the general lack of interest in US PvP servers). So feel free to host your own. Obviously you have the master plan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franklin 0 Posted August 29, 2009 I honestly dont have proof, I do not admin my teams server and do not have access to the .RPT, not that it would help anyway because we havent allowed unsigned mods in so long, i seriously doubt i could even find a RPT entry related to the server crashing due to a bad addon. speaking of close minded... the complaint that you cant get on any servers because of all your mods is ridiculous. A few hints have been dropped in this post but i think it needs to be explained a little more clearly so it can be understood. If you cant join but one server out of the entire server list, why dont you run vanilla arma, do a little searching for a server that has the style of gameplay your looking for, and then ask if they allow any mods, and if they do, which ones? If they dont allow mods, and your so close minded that you just have to have your full screen NVG, keep searching for another server you like, that allows the mod. :eek: and just FYI, Arma 2 is so new, that most of the popular mods out right now are either purely clientside (no issues with the server, except for the ones that are scripted poorly), or they are addons that you wouldnt even have the ability to use on a server, such as a new fancy tank or helicopter, that isnt on the server, nor the map and so you having the addon or not makes no difference. In Arma 1, which is a little like Arma 2 (read sarcasm)... there were big problems with mods like; SLX, ACE, GDT Mod Grenade, and other mods that added functionality to weapons, that if the server wasnt running, and a client connected to that server.... as soon as that client attempted to use some special functionality of that mod that wasnt in vanilla arma, bye bye server. I personally approve of the attitude most of the experienced guys here are taking in this topic as well. I dont feel they are trying to be elitists, but even if they are, so what... they have room to be. the horde of unkowing nobodys clamors on the forum that everything is so unfair, because they cant use something some other person made them, and gave to them for free, on another persons server that to them is free of course. the unkowing nobodys who have not paid for a server, have not contributed one minor line of script to the comunity, one texture for a plane that a goddamn template was given to you to use, claim its all so unfair. Those who give nothing, and take everything demand more from those in good standing who give everything, and demand of nothing. sounds a little Marxist doesnt it? "to those of need, by their need, from those of ability, by their ability." Communism doesnt work... buy your own server and be your own fascist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steakslim 1 Posted August 29, 2009 Hell in ArmA1 I could crash a vanilla server with ACE practically by joining it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftSkidLow 1 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Most arma2 servers are usually empty, the only way to populate them is a clan or large circle of friends to join at the same time. Most players probably don't look at servers with less than 7 or 8 players if they want to do some domination or PvP. So only these larger organizations are setting the standard, there are plenty of us who have gone and started our own server our own way with addons. But we don't have the time irl to organize into a clan/squad so the server will mostly remain empty. Basically power is in numbers, and the people in power love to act like the cop who writes you a speeding ticket for 3 mph over, and they hope you talk back so they can arrest you (ie, kick/ban), remember you are just a stupid pubby, and if you take the clans beloved F-35 for a spin you are gone. Edited August 30, 2009 by LeftSkidLow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kremator 1065 Posted August 30, 2009 Hell in ArmA1 I could crash a vanilla server with ACE practically by joining it. Arma2 is NOT Arma1. Show me a list of addons crushing servers please or stop spouting rubbish for Arma2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftSkidLow 1 Posted August 30, 2009 Also ACE was one more of a full conversion than an addon, of course it would crash server that wasn't RUNNING it. Something like VOP the server doesn't have to run, just allow. Whatever happened to people blaming the mission for crashes lol. I remember early versions of evolution always crashing servers, now days it seems like everybody thinks Domination is a mission that came with the game. Its just another usermade mission with scripts 5x more complicated than most addons, but you don't hear admins blaming the crash on the mission much anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mosh 0 Posted August 30, 2009 Arma2 is NOT Arma1. Show me a list of addons crushing servers please or stop spouting rubbish for Arma2. I took all my keys off my server while I still have it, to keep people like you out for it's final days... You seem to be the only one spouting rubbish here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kremator 1065 Posted August 30, 2009 Oh BOO HOO .... crymore ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apocal 10 Posted August 30, 2009 Oh BOO HOO .... crymore ? So how's that search going for a server that allows addons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
