Joe_M. 10 Posted July 20, 2009 Since I couldn't get ArmA2 running, I decided to wait for the next patch... This has been a couple of weeks ago, but still there is no new patch?!? Considering the fast growth of the troubleshooting section here, I am not the only one having big problems getting ArmA2 running. So I have paid money for a pre-beta-software and now I have to realize, that BI is not interested in at least fixing the stability issues?!? Thanks a lot, BIS, I have learned my lesson. You took my money, but all I got is an very expensive beer coaster... Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly-back-jack 10 Posted July 20, 2009 alot of us feel the same way mate, I'm sure when the patch does come out and we are enjoying the game all will be forgiven (but not forgotten) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ste4lth004 10 Posted July 20, 2009 You just need to wait m8, they are working on it now, this one i think will be a big update, all i need is the dam stuttering to go away when you go into a new area, otherwise it runs awesome for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted July 20, 2009 alot of us feel the same way mate Very true indeed, but does it need yet another thread saying what we already know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manzilla 1 Posted July 20, 2009 No doubt. A new thread to broadcast what many have stated over and over again? Go to the News section, there's news about the upcoming patch. It's coming soon. Patience. Dramatics not necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly-back-jack 10 Posted July 20, 2009 No doubt. A new thread to broadcast what many have stated over and over again? Go to the News section, there's news about the upcoming patch. It's coming soon. Patience. Dramatics not necessary. where? link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe_M. 10 Posted July 20, 2009 I can't find a post about the next patch in the news-section?!? Actually I just came back, after waiting for a reasonable time, to download the latest patch. But I had to realize, nothing has happened at all. I'm sick of this. I received my copy of ArmA2 5 weeks ago. I spent almost 50 Euros on it! Meanwhile it is 20 Euro cheaper! So I have already wasted 20 Euros. And if I consider, how many hours I spent reading here and trying to get it running, we are talking about another 2000 Euros at least. Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pakito 10 Posted July 20, 2009 +1 Joe we usually forget that is not only money or feel like playing the game, almost is all the spend time trying to fix the issues. I´vent too much time to play after my job, and is really frustrated pass 2 or 3 hours during a complete week testing with diferents configurations... with and without all... reading a lot of post, looking for the no solution... If bis in the first weeks said that there is a problem and to fix it, they are going to need 6 month.. ok, no problem, i put the game in the box, and 6m later... like new...;), but all the spend time, all the test... all the checks... for nothing... Bis please, more connecting people like vodafone :p:p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Joe, Its not in news as it was helpfully linked via Placebo as a unfinished changelog out of respect for people to know new patch 1.03 is on its way, but then that caused more complaint posts etc hence the groundhog day "not another thread" thing. Anyway for you ref mate heres one of those said threads with those details: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=80597&highlight=patch Which then has a link to the thread where it all started. I simply searched "patch 103" in the general section. And note ... >> ITS NOT A FULL COMPLETE LOG AND ITS NOT FINISHED <<< :eek::) Edited July 20, 2009 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe_M. 10 Posted July 20, 2009 Considering this, they are not even working on the CTD and freeze issues?!? WTF? I would have expected this to be the first item on the list (even if the list is incomplete)... And what is listed there... Well let me put it this way: A single developer should be able to do these fixes in less than a week, including lots of testing. So obviously, all developers have been moved to the OFP2 team. This leads me to the assumption, that there won't be a major patch, before OFP2 has been released for a couple of weeks... Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted July 20, 2009 That is a list of things that will be included in the next patch, once they fix more things they will add more to the list. On a side note, one developer couldn't magically fix everything fast and bis has absolutely nothing to do with ofp2, that's now purely owned by codemasters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapab 10 Posted July 20, 2009 Moved to the OFP2 team? They dont work together and I'm pretty sure BIS would want to release a few patches before OFP2 otherwise they will lose a lot of players with the current state of ARMA2 if its not fixed on October 8th. Yapa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manzilla 1 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) It will be ok. In A1 they seem to always leave a lot of important stuff out of even the release announcement info. It wasn't until one actually looked at the changelog that they noticed the patches were normally huge. If it was really gonna be just the stuff that they listed and a few other menial fixes, they wouldn't call it a patch. They'd call it a hotfix. I'm pretty sure BIS would want to release a few patches before OFP2 otherwise they will lose a lot of players with the current state of ARMA2 if its not fixed on October 8th. To be honest, I'd be happy if some of these people went to OFP2, the amount of bitching is unbelievable since A2 was released. Good riddance. ;) But then again, I'll playing that as well and no doubt if they do it here they will do it there. Edited July 20, 2009 by Manzilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLSmith2112 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) The more and more patches you make - the more and more you cut the communty and fragment it. More and more people leave the MP community... sure you continue to lose people during the time you don't have a patch, but the impact is much greater while you fragment it with many more integral patches. So a bigger and better patch is the way to go imo - unless your talking about the games unfinished SP. But now I'm sad they'll be spending time on that instead of the core gameplay aspects. I beat the campaign (being forced to skip 2 missions). Not to mention BI has some release stuff they've got yet to handle, I don't know how involved they have to be in that process but I haven't seen any of the dev's roaming around these parts recently other than the dev videos on youtube. Edited July 20, 2009 by Victor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S7_Mega 10 Posted July 20, 2009 The dev's are hard at work. The patches in Arma1 did not fragment the community, and there were many. And the mods actually improve the community and the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainBravo 0 Posted July 20, 2009 The patches show support after release and they have been good in last game with supported patches. If anything, it keeps people attached to game. However, like many others, I am having major issues with CTD and in my opnion we need that to be addressed before anything. So I hope next patch will address the CTDs and some of the performance issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakal66 10 Posted July 20, 2009 juat do as I did, uninstall untill the game is properly patched and properly playable...or play it the way you can now..because the truth is we can't do anything but wait untill they release it which they will, I just preffer to concentrate on other games that run fine untill this one is fixed...for me that is... But I must admit I was a bit sad because I really think the game could be AWSOME with out the bugs and low fps performance. This is of course for all the ones who are having issues... PS:patching doesnt fragment users NOT patching does that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFG 1 Posted July 20, 2009 You just need to wait m8, they are working on it now, this one i think will be a big update, all i need is the dam stuttering to go away when you go into a new area, otherwise it runs awesome for me. I have practically the same system as you, besides using win7. Have you disabled Hyper-threading? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Moved to the OFP2 team? They dont work together and I'm pretty sure BIS would want to release a few patches before OFP2 otherwise they will lose a lot of players with the current state of ARMA2 if its not fixed on October 8th.Yapa Ok, just to be clear. OFP2 is NOT a competitor for A2. It's an arcade game. You can't lean for example. How can you have a realistic military sim with no leaning? Codemasters is dishonestly using the OFP trademark to swindle people into believing that OFP2 is a continuation of OFP. That couldn't be further from the truth, as all the people that were involved in developing OFP are the same people that developed A2. The only thing that OFP and OFP2 have in common is the trademarked name. Eth Edited July 20, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volkov956 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Disclosure states that its unfinished change log so there is no info if the next patch will or not contain CTD fixes sorry you gotta wait I sure do miss that Propoganda Iraq Minister lol they should of gave him a job after being arrested lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thr0tt 12 Posted July 20, 2009 Yay, patch threads. I agree we need the patch. Hurrah, did my bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droezelke 10 Posted July 20, 2009 Ok, just to be clear. OFP2 is NOT a competitor for A2. It's an arcade game. You can't lean for example. How can you have a realistic military sim with no leaning? Codemasters is dishonestly using the OFP trademark to swindle people into believing that OFP2 is a continuation of OFP. That couldn't be further from the truth, as all the people that were involved in developing OFP are the same people that developed A2. The only thing that OFP and OFP2 have in common is the trademarked name. Eth Where did you get the information about OF2 being arcade? I've read a lot of good things on the game. It wil be a war simulation with no comprimises on difficulty. Leaning is very much possible in OF2 (where did you hear the opposite???). The only thing Codemasters compromised on is the menu interface, making it easier to use on console. And I think that is even a good thing as you can't claim that Arma2 has a logical and easy to use interface (too many buttons and clicks to do some simple actions). It's pretty sure that OF2 will be polished and will run optimised (quality control at Microsoft before release), and you can't say that from Arma2. I strongly believe that the release of Arma2 on Xbox360 was cancelled just a couple of weeks before release date, because it didn't pass the quality control at Microsoft. If it will be a good game, I don't know, but at least it will be playable. I'm putting Arma2 away until there will be patches released and I read good things about them. And I will buy OF2 to keep me busy in the mean time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Where did you get the information about OF2 being arcade? I've read a lot of good things on the game. It wil be a war simulation with no comprimises on difficulty. Leaning is very much possible in OF2 (where did you hear the opposite???). The only thing Codemasters compromised on is the menu interface, making it easier to use on console. And I think that is even a good thing as you can't claim that Arma2 has a logical and easy to use interface (too many buttons and clicks to do some simple actions).It's pretty sure that OF2 will be polished and will run optimised (quality control at Microsoft before release), and you can't say that from Arma2. I strongly believe that the release of Arma2 on Xbox360 was cancelled just a couple of weeks before release date, because it didn't pass the quality control at Microsoft. If it will be a good game, I don't know, but at least it will be playable. I'm putting Arma2 away until there will be patches released and I read good things about them. And I will buy OF2 to keep me busy in the mean time. Codemasters don't do niche. They aren't going to release something without wide market appeal. What you are "pretty sure" about certainly doesn't pass as fact and many people who tried it at E3 said it looked much better than it played. It's not legitimate competition for A2. As far as A2 having problems, sure it does, but they'll get resolved and DR will be a cookie cutter shooter with a weak attempt at an editor that will keep the kiddies happy for a few weeks. I've never cared about DR. Just the way Codemasters is dishonestly using the franchise name is enough to make sure I will NEVER buy it. I can totally understand why Maruk got so angry about that. Eth Edited July 20, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoak 0 Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) From the OFP, ArmA, Queens Gambit patch history and for the most part BI does not make promises, or commit to patch schedules they may not be able to keep. You generally don't see much in the way of patch announcements until it's either is fairly close to release, specific issues have been nailed down, or a beta will be offered. Any patch or fix disclosure that doesn't offer mention of progress or anticipated release is still 'out there' and pretty much a 'when it's ready' proposition... The upside of all this is BI doesn't promise patches 'soon' and then make you wait a year and a half, or promise fixes for things that the update doesn't even attempt to address. But, BI patches typically exceed expectation, fulfill any fix disclosure that's offered during a long wait, and address more then was anticipated. I'm not being an apologist for how BI does their patching, disclosure, and PR with regard to these updates and fixes. Whether their approach is good or bad, depends on how patient and/or mature you are, how much you trust BI to 'come through', and if you'd prefer the kind of 'up to the minute' hype that's used to exploit news sites on patch progress that often ends up just jerking expectations around. :butbut: Edited July 20, 2009 by Hoak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Considering this, they are not even working on the CTD and freeze issues?!? WTF? I would have expected this to be the first item on the list (even if the list is incomplete)... And what is listed there... Well let me put it this way: A single developer should be able to do these fixes in less than a week, including lots of testing. So obviously, all developers have been moved to the OFP2 team. This leads me to the assumption, that there won't be a major patch, before OFP2 has been released for a couple of weeks... Joe Wow, your reply is literally a mirror of so many :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
