MG soldier can even shoot a M1A2 TUSK and destroy it!, I think it's a logic error

[msy 22]

ARMA2 v 1.02.58134

I make a experiment, and it surprised me. when i put a M1A2 TUSK and some red groups, i found that some bullets flied to the tank. those soldiers are MG soldier.

So i put one M1A2 TUSK withlout ammo and one red MG soldier, the soldier shoot the tank whihout any hesitate...and MG soldier can shoot the tank from and face.

I don't use T90 and BLUE MG soldier, but I think it will be the same.

http://bbs.samren.cn/attachment/59_192_751bf9dcfcdd5c8.jpg

http://bbs.samren.cn/attachment/59_192_a9a65ac0fefff93.jpg

http://bbs.samren.cn/attachment/59_192_1b0af0b8ef876ce.jpg

And the other problem is why the loader in M1A2 TUSK only has "turn on" status? There is no "turn in" option for loader.

Edited July 19, 2009 by msy

[Yapab 10]

The tank looks fine, not destroyed in those pics?

Btw those pics hurt my eyes... look so bad! Is that low settings?

[Alex72 1]

Dont worry. His images will soon be removed as they break forum rules of max 100kb/image. ;)

[the_shadow 0]

thats becouse OFP, ArmA and ArmA2 all use a hitpoint system..

meaning, enough hits with any weapon will destroy it..

it´s just a matter of how many hits it takes.

so yes, known issue.

[trickster1982 10]

Its a real pain in the arse when your buttoned up crew get killed inside a tank by light MG fire, im pretty sure BIS could do something about that without too much effort!

Just as an example (not that one is needed,its common sense) there is a German king tiger tank sat outside La Gleize in Belgium, now used as a memorial, but when it was abandoned in 1944 American soldiers decided to use it as target practice with bazookas, firing round after round at it & none penetrated, so im pretty damn certain that a modern MBT with reactive,sloped armour can withstand a bit of MG fire!Hit points on tanks & APC's in this game should only drop when hit with AT weapons,missiles or artillery methinks :rolleyes:

Totally unrelated but just to show off lol, heres me with another world war 2 legend :cool:

[Fabregas 10]

Sweet^^ I love German WWII tanks! Anyway, surely they can do something without having to create a new penetration type damage system. Writing in some sort of exceptions to the damage or armour values of the weapons or vehicle, would do the trick would it not?

[trickster1982 10]

Sweet^^ I love German WWII tanks! Anyway, surely they can do something without having to create a new penetration type damage system. Writing in some sort of exceptions to the damage or armour values of the weapons or vehicle, would do the trick would it not?

thats the only Tiger tank in the world that actually still runs as well, the museum spent a fortune renovating it! was great to see it driving round the arena! :cool:

[Fabregas 10]

La Gleize you say... I think me and my tank thieving kit might have to pay a visit. The Tiger and King Tiger, truly were amazing pieces of kit and virtually untouchable, especially on the western front. Some Soviet tanks by the end were able to challenge them more but the German tank kill/death ratio was pretty terrifying overall.

Lucky guy seeing one of those beasts in action!

[msy 22]

The tank looks fine, not destroyed in those pics?

Btw those pics hurt my eyes... look so bad! Is that low settings?

I didn't catch the picture when the tank was injured, my importance is that the MG soldier can shoot the tank automatically.

I bought powercolor X1950PRO 512M for ARMA two years ago. Now i plan to buy a new one when DX11 comes.

My setting is normal without shadow & AA & AF &postprocess.to upload these pictures I made them less quality. Do those pictrures look so bad?

---------- Post added at 12:20 AM ---------- Previous post was Yesterday at 11:30 PM ----------

I think I find the result!

It's my fault I didn't go on exam with other kind of tanks or soldiers. I just exam it again, and I found that even M2 MG soldier didn't shoot a T72, and even a pilot can shoot a M1A2 TUSK. this coudn't be explain by BIS's hitpoint system.

How does this happen? I put a M1A1 with out ammo and a MG soldier in the map again, of cause the soldier didn't fire. Then I as tank commander turned on, the soldier began to shoot me, and I quickly turned in, but the soldier still keeped fireing.

Finally I know when crews is in "turn on" status, the enemy will shoot them but not the vehicle itself. When crews turn in the enemy will keep firing at the position where the crew was at the last time.This phenomenon also happens in ARMA.

But there are some differences between ARMA and ARMA2. In ARMA, even the tank is out of ammo, the soldier will run away when he sees a enemy tank. But in ARMA2, the soldier won't run away, just be prone or stand as nothing happens. But once you turn on, they will shoot you, and shoot the tank indirectly.

this picture below is a red pilot shooting a M1A2 TUSK, because the loader is too conspicuous!!!

http://bbs.samren.cn/attachment/59_192_3410956384eaa3c.jpg

---------- Post added at 12:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 AM ----------

Dont worry. His images will soon be removed as they break forum rules of max 100kb/image. ;)

How to upload pictures in this forum?

Edited July 19, 2009 by msy

[trickster1982 10]

La Gleize you say... I think me and my tank thieving kit might have to pay a visit. The Tiger and King Tiger, truly were amazing pieces of kit and virtually untouchable, especially on the western front. Some Soviet tanks by the end were able to challenge them more but the German tank kill/death ratio was pretty terrifying overall.

Lucky guy seeing one of those beasts in action!

me (and my dad) with the king!

:)

[chaplainDMK 10]

Well if the gunner is smart enough to pop his head up then sure... Let the pilot punish thee!

[rowdied 44]

thats the only Tiger tank in the world that actually still runs as well, the museum spent a fortune renovating it! was great to see it driving round the arena! :cool:

What about the tanks at bovington in england?

Is this the same tank?

[trickster1982 10]

What about the tanks at bovington in england?

Is this the same tank?

Yes its the same one, those pictures I posted were taken at Bovington tankfest last summer :) unfortunately that king tiger isnt a runner!

[Rhodite 3]

Lets keep on topic gentlemen.

Very nice pics but not really related to the topic in question.

Thank you.