New Mod "Wasteland"

[dale 11]

Hello fellow community members, as by the name of our mod "Wasteland" you are already thinking "wow whats this?" well ill tell you we are a mod dedicated to making a wasteland where you can roam discover and enjoy killing stuff!

now to be precise our mod is a creation based on alot of wasteland type roleplay games such as fallout, s.t.a.l.k.e.r. and even the film Mad Max taking a stance in our discussions, the content we are aiming at is:

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A new map for exploring and discovering, based on sandy dunes and red rock, mass graves and people who've been hung by the wasteland dwellers

Things to find such as weapons left around and broken cars, these things are limited and precious, that guys eyeing up your car, youd better watch out its the only one for miles around :D

We aim to break down items into their key components which you can find around the wasteland and then use to make these items, a car needs wheels and engine a chasis and the most important thing petrol (already broken down but you still need it)

One of our aims is to make gang warfare more prominent in the wasteland, there will be certain areas to control which will give you certain resources you may need

Due to there being less resources such as meat and fuel and even ammo stocks you will need to search the wasteland for these things, hunting will be prominent in the game but dont overhunt all the animals;)

The resources in the starting area will run out after a while, its up to you to fill those stocks up

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Weve got many more ideas still brewing but we are going to be basing quite a bit of content on what the community wants, so start shouting your suggesting on what you want in your wasteland, weve already started producing the map and we have our freindly addon maker Alexander starting on several projects and destroying what weve got.

now we have positions open to people who are willing to join us in a persuit to make a big mod which will keep people coming back for more, the founders (X3R0, Dez Nutz, Alexander, Actium, Neil and Dale[me]) are prepared to startup the server with monthly donations from all of us, this will be as soon as we get the notion that the mod will be a success for the community, this could be after the release or even during the beta if we see fit.

we aim to have a 64 man server.

one of our requests from the community is that we want an experienced Scripter who is willing to teach us how to script in the arma 2 laungage of SQF, and join the team as a core member and progress with us through the ups and downs of the mod :)

Here is our website, it is a pending website till we get the real one up and running http://z13.invisionfree.com/INC0/index.php?

Special thanks go to Spooner and his team who has helped us with his very useful addons which can be found here (http://dev-heaven.net/home)

Edited July 10, 2009 by dale

[chaplainDMK 10]

Erm shouldnt this go in the addons&mods thread?

[Alexander_V3c 10]

Erm shouldnt this go in the addons&mods thread?

No, because if you bothered to read this is a modification which:

A) is a completely new/user created MAP

B) is a completely new and user created MISSION

and C: addons and mods is a section for game UTILITIES and GAME ADDONS which this doesnt fall into at all.

[NeMeSiS 11]

No, because if you bothered to read this is a modification which:

A) is a completely new/user created MAP

B) is a completely new and user created MISSION

and C: addons and mods is a section for game UTILITIES and GAME ADDONS which this doesnt fall into at all.

A map is an addon. :confused:

[arma2mods 10]

Would be helpful to know settings more specifically, is the Mad Max your final bet of main inspiration or only some elements?

[Alexander_V3c 10]

Would be helpful to know settings more specifically, is the Mad Max your final bet of main inspiration or only some elements?

There is no source of inspiration. Mad Max is just an easy way of describing what we want to achieve. THis is a very unique project.

Basically, picture yourself in the far future where the typical way of life had ceased to exist. Instead, a group of survivors try to make a living. However, resources are very limited, so people are forced to fight over them for their own survival.

This introduces the whole concept of gang warfare into the game. We want players to create gangs and fight over control of gang areas which would supply them resources. For example gang area 1 might have 4 recource nodes around it, one of them being petrol/fuel. Gang area 2 could have also 4 nodes, but instead of petrol it might have sulphur/gunpowder.

Petrol and gunpowder are very rare, but very usefull resources. Gangs would be forced to trade and/or fight over these for their survival (need petrol for cars, need gunpowder to make ammunition).

This creates a kind of ingame economy, because NPC shops will have a VERY limmited supply: i.e they will be able to sell 1 motorbike every random 40-70 minutes. This forces players to take care of their assets, seek help/repairs instead of the usual: car breaks down and you walk away buy a replacement/another one. Assets become very precious and hence an ingame economy where players can trade, manufacture and roleplay as a real business.

When it comes to LAWS: there is only 1 rule: you can not shoot anyone inside the DMZ, if you do you are flagged as a fugitive and the AI Guards will immediatelly terminate you. We are also working on other work arounds where you are not able to bring weapons inside the DMZ at all.

We want to give players the ultimate freedom to make their own laws, to make their own living. We decided not to involve another side/aka cops to the game because from experience things will get sour as players will always abuse their powers or exploit the system. With an AI network we can rest assured that everything will be conducted in a 1 or 0 basis: Either you are gullty or not and no corruption in between.

If anyone wants to play a lone wolf, they can. But as we all know theres strength in numbers. As a lone wolf, youd have to scavenge and raid hostile gang resource nodes, putting your life on the line to provide yourself with food, ammunition and clothing. You would find it a challenge to keep your ammo stores high, whilst hunting for food. Thats right, in Wasteland people will have to HUNT or FISH for food realtime, using real animals. Why do we need food? well simply said, in wasteland, you will need to eat 2 meals a day or you will start to lose health/starve and eventually die. However, if you got a rifle/fishing rod you cans imply stock yourself up with plenty a food, and wudnt have to worry about it, unless you die and lose your inventory offcourse. In which cas,e you should always ue your storage area to keep a nice backup supply of gans, food, ammo etc.

When it comes to vechiles, guns and other items. We decided to stick to conventional eastern-block fire arms and a few WW1/2 pistols/rifles. Youll be seeing loads of P38's, Makarovs, AKM;s, RPK's, maybe the odd M16, the ODD Mosin Nagant/Kar98. For vechiles we are going to modify and wear out the typical skoda/lada/sedana nd hatchback making thme look really rusty, and transforming them so that people can climb onto the roof/car boot and shoot as the car drives. Along side this project we arent including any real armour, the closest thing that might come to this is a typical ArmA2 BUS, but modified in such a way where steel plates surround the bus, and mounted on top of the roof would be a 50 cal machinegun. However this might not be the ultimate vechile, as you have to remember that we are going to have realistic vechile engines. Youd expect the motorcycle to hardly use much gas, and a bus as mentioned above to guzzle gas like no tomorrow.

From what I mentioned above you can see that the vechiles are going to be unique and have their ocassions for use, this will create a tactical environment, gang leaders have to choose carefully which assets they want to deploy. Armoured scrap-heap vechiles will need loads of gas and maintenance, whilst lighter vechiles like the skoda or the OPEL Rekord 59 Caravan troop carrier (in developement) will be able to travel faster and further, using less resources. This is very nice in terms of strategy, you could have a scouting party on motor-cycles or a full blown invasion force with mounted machineguns and makeshift armoured vechiles.

I also forgot to mention the abillity to upgrade vechiles and the ability to repair abandoned vechiles using interchangable vechile parts. Thats right, you can attach a steel plate to your every-day skoda, giving you that bullet proof protection. Or you can repair that Sand DUne Buggy, but detaching a wheel from a broken down bik and attaching it to the dune buggy instead. Whatever you do, it is always good to remember that with every advantage theres a disadvantage too. For example you can attach 2 side plates, 1 rear plate to your car giving it good light arms protection from the sides and rear. BUT, as a result the maximum speed of the car is reduced, and the car will need to consume more gas for the usual journey.

Having said all that, there are many more countless features to the game that I havent mentioned, things like Gang Storage, private storage, stat saving etc. Custum gang uniforms (when you join a gang youll change appearance to look like them). And most importantly a genuine post apocalyptic atmosphere.

Edited July 13, 2009 by Alexander_V3c

[hund 0]

I wish you the best of luck with your project. Mr. Chaplain is right tho, in that your project is a mod(ification) because of custom content, and thus belongs in the section reserved for such endeavours.

For reference, I can only urge you to take a look at Shadows of Namalsk, an ArmA1 mod that went largely unnoticed by the general populace. The guys behind that did a wonderful job with their island, so there might be a pointer or two to be found there.

Anyway, best of luck, and I'll see ya when it's done.

[Alexander_V3c 10]

I wish you the best of luck with your project. Mr. Chaplain is right tho, in that your project is a mod(ification) because of custom content, and thus belongs in the section reserved for such endeavours.

For reference, I can only urge you to take a look at Shadows of Namalsk, an ArmA1 mod that went largely unnoticed by the general populace. The guys behind that did a wonderful job with their island, so there might be a pointer or two to be found there.

Anyway, best of luck, and I'll see ya when it's done.

Thanks buddy,

and yeah well definetly cya when we get past beta.

:)

[jonneymendoza 10]

Your basicly putting the fallout 3 world into arma 2

[Alexander_V3c 10]

Your basicly putting the fallout 3 world into arma 2

I dont know mate, I never played fallout 3.

[dale0404 5]

Is this going to be a perpetual world? Or will it be based on mission scenarios?

[Alexander_V3c 10]

Perpetual world, players choose the outcomes and make their own missions/goal.

[chaplainDMK 10]

Perpetual world, players choose the outcomes and make their own missions/goal.

Lol, if you didnt hear of fallout yet then your basicaly 10 years too late to make the first one...

Fallout is a postapocaliptic RPG series. Its realy adault like and very free roaming and open ended.

Check some of the vids or get Fallout 3.

One of the best games in history. Anyways, you got me confused with the addition of new guns and the scavaging part witch i kinda thought it was a brand new feature.

Sry

[jonneymendoza 10]

Perpetual world, players choose the outcomes and make their own missions/goal.

so basicly a fallout 3 mod. heck even the game world in fallout 3 is called the wasteland.

not a bad thing to do though. fantastic game that is

[-)rStrangelove 0]

Fallout3, MadMax... who cares? Fallout drew its inspiration from the MadMax movies, so not even Fallout is truly original. And 'Wasteland' is a normal word for any abandoned areas, its not original too.

Back on topic: i hope you guys plan a SP version too. Even the best MP missions can be screwed up by random idiots which ruin it for everyone else.

[jonneymendoza 10]

)rStrangelove;1362944']Fallout3' date=' MadMax... who cares? Fallout drew its inspiration from the MadMax movies, so not even Fallout is truly original. And 'Wasteland' is a normal word for any abandoned areas, its not original too.

Back on topic: i hope you guys plan a SP version too. Even the best MP missions can be screwed up by random idiots which ruin it for everyone else.[/quote']

Its not just the settings though that reminds people about fo3. but the fact that not only is it based on the same name given by fo3, but it also has the same ability to do whatever mission you want in whatever order you wish ie free roaming.

im not saying this is a bad idea. You make it sound as if its a bad thing to copy fo3. its not and i would welcome such a mod based on this engine.

[Alexander_V3c 10]

Its not just the settings though that reminds people about fo3. but the fact that not only is it based on the same name given by fo3, but it also has the same ability to do whatever mission you want in whatever order you wish ie free roaming.

im not saying this is a bad idea. You make it sound as if its a bad thing to copy fo3. its not and i would welcome such a mod based on this engine.

Were not copying FO3 at all, I never played the game and never will. Secondly theres no such thing as "missions" in our MOD. Its not a co-op mission, but more of a gang warfare mod with stuff to do in between.

[Aphotic 10]

Fallout is single player only is it not?

This would be pretty awesome if the world is big enough.

You should play fallout 3 though, some of the crazy shit you come across in the wasteland, like super heroes and cannibals and such is amazing.

some killer mutant animals would be nice too

Edit: also please include weapon fatigue/quality and jams jams jams and breakages

Edited July 14, 2009 by Aphotic

[dale 11]

well Aphotic your requests will be added into the game the best we can, i hope you all realise that we are making a mod which will copy off some games and movies yes(like everything else), but we aim to go that one bit further and make something unique to a wasteland game.

we aim to bring players together and hopefully get alot of you to produce your own ideas about you want in the wasteland, maybe some of you will make your own wasteland stuff and ask us to put it into the mod?(aslong as its wasteland orientated :))

and these idiots you talk of will come into their own as actual characters in the game, remember Humungus in Mad max? he wanted to just kill everything.

also we are going to make more than enough wasteland for you all to play with, as groups and individuals, we will still keep the balance of there being a need for resources and playability, but we hope to make a mod which will allow you to do what you want.

think of the situations in the game you could have, also remember that its not only going to be the other players trying to get the resources, we hope to introduce wasteland creatures, or even sandstorms which will stop people from going outside, if another player has shot you a few times you could lock the settlement doors on him :D and watch him die from all the mutants attacking him

be creative and start giving us suggestions of what you want in the mod!

heres our website(temporary) http://thecollective.co.nr/ sign up and start shouting suggestions, give us ideas!

[delta99 34]

Did this mod/mission/island go anywhere? Is it dead at this point?

[mbicko 1]

Did this mod/mission/island go anywhere? Is it dead at this point?

Why on earth did you bump a three year old thread? Seriously, 3 years, why not google it to find your answer? Nothing in Google? Then it doesn't exist.

[[frl]myke 14]

Did this mod/mission/island go anywhere? Is it dead at this point?

They just waited for you to ask for news.

Honestly, last post was 3 years ago, what do you think? Me thinks, after 300 posts you should know how it works in this Forum:

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