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I have a brand new computer, so it's fresh and clean.

In the first day, Arma 2 ran very well with many options in high and very high and a viewing distance of 3600m. Resolution: 1680x1050.

After many hours playing, I've installed the recent update to the 1.02 patch. Played just 20 minutes, with AA on, and everything was good, no performance drop noticed.

Today I started the game, and I noticed a performance drop for no reason. Then I started to notice how the textures take too long to load if at all. I was looking to a weird soldier, until finally the textures loaded and I could see his face and clothes in more detail. Notice that the soldier was very near to me, so I think it's not the LoD thing.

Now almost every object in the game remains with very low resolution texture, only getting better when I look directly to it for a long time. No matter the distance. And some objects, at the same distance, will remain in low res.

I also notice that there's some popup in graphics (like a whole building coming out of nothing while I could se another one right BEHIND it).

Anyway, I tried to lower down my graphical options. Tried everything, including the resolution, but the problem remains!! Even in 800x600 with everything on low, I can see those textures taking forever to load, some insisting in not appearing.

I'm really disapointed with all this. Specially because the game ran well in the beggining.

Apart from some automatic Windows Updates, I didn't change anything in my system.

BTW, here's my specs:

Core i7 920

ASUS GTX 285 1GB

6GB DDR3 1600MHz (CL8) RAM

A fast single plate 7200 rpm hard drive. New, no fragmentation yet.

What could be the problem? Any solution? Anyone with the same problem?

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did you use the same shortcut, or did you make a new one?

(will have the latest 1.02 that way) Do you leave your comp on 24/7, or have you rebooted since your updates from windows?

Chk your arma2.cfg.

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did you use the same shortcut, or did you make a new one?

(will have the latest 1.02 that way) Do you leave your comp on 24/7, or have you rebooted since your updates from windows?

Chk your arma2.cfg.

Same shortcut. I've rebooted after the updates and no, I don't leave my comp on 24/7...

BTW, I'm using Windows VIsta 64bits Home Premium.

Anti-virus didn't find any infection.

I'm noticing something right now: My hard drive, after formatation, is 465GB big. In the C: root, selecting all files and folders (including hidden ones), I have about 53GB occupied. Going to My Computer, it says I have 350GB free... If 465 - 53 = 412GB

412 - 350 = 62GB lost somewhere!

Edit: 347GB free now (after defragmentation). That means I have 65 missing GB somewhere.

I've downloaded WinDirStat, and it shows my used 53GB plus 60GB of "unknown". It doesn't say where in my hard drive... :(:(:(

Edit 2: I'm thinking if with all these updates, Vista made many restore points, eating up space. Maybe? Is there a way to delete some restore points? 15% of my hard disk space would be about 70GB, so those 65GB "missing" space might be from those system restore points?

Sorry fir all this messy situation, guys. :(

Edit 3: My arma 2 cfg file:

language="English";

adapter=-1;

3D_Performance=93750;

Resolution_Bpp=32;

Resolution_W=1680;

Resolution_H=1050;

refresh=60;

Render_W=1680;

Render_H=1050;

FSAA=2;

postFX=0;

HDRPrecision=8;

lastDeviceId="";

localVRAM=2007498752;

nonlocalVRAM=2007498752;

---------- Post added at 06:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:51 PM ----------

I don't know if it's relevant, but I noticed another bug: when I change graphic settings, the graphics become extremely blured. If I press ESC to bring the menu and then ESC again, everything fine (it's as if the game forgot to take out the blur that comes up when you pause the game with a menu).

---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:04 PM ----------

Ok, about the hard drive space issue, I've cleaned some restore points and I got 5GB back. I guess that if I cleaned everything, I would get those 65GB back.

So I assume there's nothing wrong with the hard drive.

And I checked there's no virus, spyware, malware or whatever.

Edited by Overwhelming

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BTW, I'm using Windows VIsta 64bits Home Premium.

There's your problem.

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There's your problem.

I think Arma 2 supports Vista 64-bit. Besides, it worked very well yesterday.

My guess is that the update of the 1.02 messed up things (I didn't play test properly or time enough to notice the change after installing the update, so only today I noticed it).

Besides that, I don't have a clue about what could be the problem... :(

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Just great. Now the game always crashes to desktop!

Checking the dump files, it says something about:

Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastup.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastup.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\sesedat.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Protocol bin\config.bin/RadioProtocolRU/: Missing word RU\combat\HostilesE
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\vystoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
=======================================================
-------------------------------------------------------
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 70D3E9E6
Version 1.02.58134
Fault address:  70D3E9E6 01:0039D9E6 C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dum.dll
file:     C2B_RazorTwo
world:    chernarus
campaign: ca\missions\campaign
battle:   Beginning
mission:  C2B
Prev. code bytes: 0F AF C7 C1 E8 02 83 3A 00 8D 04 83 76 15 8B 32
Fault code bytes: 8B 18 89 19 83 C1 04 83 C0 04 83 EE 01 75 F1 8B

Registers:
EAX:174985F0 EBX:17489000
ECX:473BAFA4 EDX:2B83E1D0
ESI:00000003 EDI:00000C4C
CS:EIP:0023:70D3E9E6
SS:ESP:002B:2B83E120  EBP:2B83E28C
DS:002B  ES:002B  FS:0053  GS:002B
Flags:00010206

Here's the dumped files: http://rapidshare.com/files/249514998/ArmA_2_file_dump.rar

I think I'm gona try to uninstall everything and only apply the first 1.02 patch.

Edited by Overwhelming

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I know it sounds like I'm calling you an idiot, but redownload the patch, and make sure it's the right one? The German patch was different to the UK patch I believe. (Only just woken up so apologies if I'm a) wrong, and b) a bit incomprehensible)

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What drivers do you have installed and did you try any fixes for vista64?

Also did you encounter any errors when installing the patch?

---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 AM ----------

The German patch was different to the UK patch I believe.

I think the latest patch brought all the euro games up to speed meaning it was an international patch, hot nation specific, I believe.

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I know it sounds like I'm calling you an idiot, but redownload the patch, and make sure it's the right one? The German patch was different to the UK patch I believe. (Only just woken up so apologies if I'm a) wrong, and b) a bit incomprehensible)

I bought the international version (from a UK online store) and then applied the 1.02 patch (never played any previous version). Then, after the demo was released, an update to that 1.02 patch was released. I've installed it.

What drivers do you have installed and did you try any fixes for vista64?

Also did you encounter any errors when installing the patch?

The graphic drivers are the latest (186.18), the game patches as well. I've tried the already mentioned -winxp and -maxmem2047 commands, with no results (coincidentially or not, only after that the game started crashing as well. I've already tried to execute the game without those commands, but it still crashes).

I'm also noticing something, but it can be just coincidence: the game is more prone to crash when I'm around that south-eastern town (the name starts with an E, I don't remember the czech name). Edit: Elektrozavodsk

I guess I can't re-patch the game, so I'll try to uninstall the game, then install again up to 1.02, without the latest update I can see that the 1.02 patch available for download already includes the update.

Edited by Overwhelming

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Just great. Now the game always crashes to desktop!

Checking the dump files, it says something about:

Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastup.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastup.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\sesedat.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Protocol bin\config.bin/RadioProtocolRU/: Missing word RU\combat\HostilesE
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\vystoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error: cannot load sound 'ca\dubbing\global\radio\female01\cz\nastoupit.wss', header cannot be loaded.
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
Error during v-buffer creation: error 8876017c
=======================================================
-------------------------------------------------------
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 70D3E9E6
Version 1.02.58134
Fault address:  70D3E9E6 01:0039D9E6 C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dum.dll
file:     C2B_RazorTwo
world:    chernarus
campaign: ca\missions\campaign
battle:   Beginning
mission:  C2B
Prev. code bytes: 0F AF C7 C1 E8 02 83 3A 00 8D 04 83 76 15 8B 32
Fault code bytes: 8B 18 89 19 83 C1 04 83 C0 04 83 EE 01 75 F1 8B

Registers:
EAX:174985F0 EBX:17489000
ECX:473BAFA4 EDX:2B83E1D0
ESI:00000003 EDI:00000C4C
CS:EIP:0023:70D3E9E6
SS:ESP:002B:2B83E120  EBP:2B83E28C
DS:002B  ES:002B  FS:0053  GS:002B
Flags:00010206

Here's the dumped files: http://rapidshare.com/files/249514998/ArmA_2_file_dump.rar

I think I'm gona try to uninstall everything and only apply the first 1.02 patch.

Fault address: 70D3E9E6 01:0039D9E6 C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dum.dll

thats a driver problem try rolling back your driver and then updating it to the latest version for your gfx card. Files starting with NVD are normaly nvidia files. Also since your card is an asus nvidia card i recommend you download the latest driver for it from asus website and not form nvidia website.

Hope that helps.

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Fault address: 70D3E9E6 01:0039D9E6 C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dum.dll

thats a driver problem try rolling back your driver and then updating it to the latest version for your gfx card. Files starting with NVD are normaly nvidia files. Also since your card is an asus nvidia card i recommend you download the latest driver for it from asus website and not form nvidia website.

Hope that helps.

To roll back I have to use a system restore point or just install previous version drivers? (I've installed a big load of windows updates after installing the nvidia drivers (new computer), so I guess I would have to install everything again!).

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i had slow texture load too.. u gotta use 182.50 driver from nvidia (april) it solves the slow loading issue. Any newer driver makes it so that the game doesnt know how much memory you have on your video card and makes it load slow.

---------- Post added at 10:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 AM ----------

To roll back I have to use a system restore point or just install previous version drivers? (I've installed a big load of windows updates after installing the nvidia drivers (new computer), so I guess I would have to install everything again!).

just go to Add/Remove programs and uninstall current nvidia ones, and install 182.50 on top. No need to use system restore.

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To roll back I have to use a system restore point or just install previous version drivers? (I've installed a big load of windows updates after installing the nvidia drivers (new computer), so I guess I would have to install everything again!).

Ok if you not able to rollback without doing a system restore then just download the latest driver from asus website for your gfx. make sure u uninstall the current driver by going into device manger and right clicking your gfx card and uninstall from there first before installing new driver.

Edited by teaboy

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another important factor to watch over would be DPC (Deffered Procedure Calls) latencies

download http://www.thesycon.de/dpclat/dpclat.exe

read more http://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

on ideal idle system state they <20us

and on most of systems depending on number applications / work and various drivers <75us stable

with high spikes only when something intensive is going on (e.g. starting new application or doing CPU or I/o intesive ops)

if your system shows different values or random / looping spikes then Your system gunna have perf issues with realtime data streams

this post helped with slow loading textures. not perfect but better. also enabling all performance optimisations in the properties of the drive. i cant find any vista tweakthat improves fps however.

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You can also goto Control Panel->System-> Advanced system settings -> Hardware -> Device Manager -> click the + next to display adapters -> right click your display adapter then click properties -> driver tab -> Roll Back Driver

But I'd honestly suggest uninstalling the driver, then use an nvidia driver removal tool (before restarting your computer) then restart your computer and install a new driver.

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Thanks for the tips.

I've installed the 182.50 drivers, downloaded directly from the ASUS site.

I did a fresh install and updated the game to 1.02.

Video options: everything normal, except video memory very high. View distance of 2000 @ 1680x1050

The texture problem still happens, although not as severe. (I wonder what will happen when I reach "Razor Two" mission in the campaign, where all my problems started).

Also tried the tips in the sticky thread: PhysiX off, -winxp. I don't notice improvments. Alas, I think that with PhysiX on and without the -winxp command, it's a little better or at least the same.

Most important, the game isn't crashing anymore (in 40 minutes of play). The texture and object popup is still too slow, but better than this morning. I'm very forgiving about graphics, but this texture problem is still a little bit beyond what I'm able to forgive. It's too distracting.

I'm thinking about installing 186.18 nvidia drivers again, but I don't know if the crashes stopped because I've downgraded the drivers or if it was because I've installed the game again...

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This happens to me, and I'm on XP with an ATI card.

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NVIDIA OWNERS! Set

Max pre rendered frames to 8 in the advanced 3d settings for global or ArmA 2. This improves performance vastly.

This has helped.

I'm now playing @ 1680x1050 with the following options:

texture detail: high

video memory: very high

anisotropic: very high

antialiasing: normal

shadows: normal

texture detail: high

object detail: high

post processing: disabled (i don't like the motion blur effect)

Texture loading problem: better. But not entirely fixed. There's still noticeable texture popup (like watching a bald soldier and then suddenly an helmet materealizes in his head). But I need to test this more. Anyway, I'm going from desperate to only annoyed right now :D. I just hope that when I wake up tomorrow, performance will stay the way it is now, until further improvements from BIS.

Framerate: much better. But far from optimal. But very playable right now, and that's enough for me.

Edit: still with the 182.50 drivers. Should I try the latest now?

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This has helped.

I'm now playing @ 1680x1050 with the following options:

texture detail: high

video memory: very high

anisotropic: very high

antialiasing: normal

shadows: normal

texture detail: high

object detail: high

post processing: disabled (i don't like the motion blur effect)

Texture loading problem: better. But not entirely fixed. There's still noticeable texture popup (like watching a bald soldier and then suddenly an helmet materealizes in his head). But I need to test this more. Anyway, I'm going from desperate to only annoyed right now :D. I just hope that when I wake up tomorrow, performance will stay the way it is now, until further improvements from BIS.

Framerate: much better. But far from optimal. But very playable right now, and that's enough for me.

Edit: still with the 182.50 drivers. Should I try the latest now?

No, the newer drivers are problematic (and not just with A2 I might add). The texture loading seems to be a problem under Vista/Win 7 64 as I rarely (if ever) see it in Win XP 64 but it sill happens under Win7/Vista 64 no matter how much I play around with it.

Eth

PS : I also found that turning off Hyper threading (Its a BIOS setting) under Vista/Win 7 made a noticeable difference in terms of smoothness/texture loading.

Edited by BangTail

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I guess I'll wait until ASUS releases the next driver or nVidia updates the latest drivers.

I'll also check that HT thing. Thanks.

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I'm noticing something right now: My hard drive, after formatation, is 465GB big. In the C: root, selecting all files and folders (including hidden ones), I have about 53GB occupied. Going to My Computer, it says I have 350GB free... If 465 - 53 = 412GB

412 - 350 = 62GB lost somewhere!

Edit: 347GB free now (after defragmentation). That means I have 65 missing GB somewhere.

I've downloaded WinDirStat, and it shows my used 53GB plus 60GB of "unknown". It doesn't say where in my hard drive... :(:(:(

Edit 2: I'm thinking if with all these updates, Vista made many restore points, eating up space. Maybe? Is there a way to delete some restore points? 15% of my hard disk space would be about 70GB, so those 65GB "missing" space might be from those system restore points?

[/color]Ok, about the hard drive space issue, I've cleaned some restore points and I got 5GB back. I guess that if I cleaned everything, I would get those 65GB back.

So I assume there's nothing wrong with the hard drive.

And I checked there's no virus, spyware, malware or whatever.

Shouldn't be anything wrong with the drive. It might be space set aside for various things, like the recycle bin or, as you noted, restore points.

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The game keeps crashing. Sometimes it just exits the game, although the Arma2.exe is still running in the task manager.

Sometimes it's suddenly, some other times I see texture corruption before the crash...

:(

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Also since your card is an asus nvidia card i recommend you download the latest driver for it from asus website and not form nvidia website.

I would not do this. Download the 182.50 drivers, not the ASUS ones.

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I would not do this. Download the 182.50 drivers, not the ASUS ones.

The ASUS ones are 182.50 too...

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