Acecool 0 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) This motion blur only happens when I am walking on the ground and turning, when I am flying I have flawless fps.. I have quad core, 4gb, 8800gt oc, xp Playing the Demo, I was about to pre-order, but Securom and a few things broke the deal for me... Deal breakers for me! 1) Motion blur, only happens on the ground 2) I cant walk normally while holding the gun, there is only fast forward and really fast forward, or EXTREMELY SLOW forward...... I like OFP where you can walk slow, walk faster while holding gun, and sprint with gun down 3) Steering in vehicles sucks with the mouse - make it like ofp where you look where you are going instead of having to hold alt! 4) Moving the mouse has minor delay in land vehicles, and while walking - this is the only game that has this delay and I run crysis, farcry2 and others at 1920x1080 full settings with no frame drop, no lag - smooth is key guys!!! 5) Air vehicle controls are extremely poor, you can no longer rotate the helicopter left/right with the pedal keys! 6) No way to rebind the ALT key to something else? 7) No way to invert the mouse ONLY on aircraft Adding to the list... 8) Radio sounds like SHIT, and it has the same bug that existed in OFP and Arma code where you can click a lot for fire-cease fire and it will keep repeating until ALL ARE DONE... meaning radio queues up and keeps annoying you until all actions are done... fix this please, especially if you are using such an annoying radio technology... 9) When laying on a field, yes grass can be high in real life, but in this game you cant move it, or look over the grass - you are essentially blind while laying in grass - but the super ai can see you...! Why not try making it semi transparent to simulate one eye looking around, and one eye looking at the grass, this way you can see the enemies in your line of sight... 10) Another one.. Very high settings on 1920x1080 benchmark VS 900x something on VERY LOW.. Only gives an additional 2 frames per second... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I was going to buy this game, but as said the above broke the deal for me... I think I will stick with Operation Flashpoint and Operation Flashpoint 2 when it comes out - they have controls etc down to an art while Armed Assault 2 just.... has something, and its not good.. Acecool is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message Edited June 27, 2009 by Acecool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted June 27, 2009 1) Motion blur, only happens on the ground I can't confirm this. With postprocessing on low I also get motion blur in air vehicles, as long as the turn is sharp enough. Postprocessing on disabled turns off motion blur completely, including on the ground. 2) I cant walk normally while holding the gun, there is only fast forward and really fast forward, or EXTREMELY SLOW forward...... I like OFP where you can walk slow, walk faster while holding gun, and sprint with gun down Take it or leave it. Probably won't change, except perhaps in a mod like ACE2. 3) Steering in vehicles sucks with the mouse - make it like ofp where you look where you are going instead of having to hold alt! This can be configured to behave like OFP. It's in the control options. 4) Moving the mouse has minor delay in land vehicles, and while walking - this is the only game that has this delay and I run crysis, farcry2 and others at 1920x1080 full settings with no frame drop, no lag - smooth is key guys!!! Forcing VSync to off in your graphics control panel can remedy this. 5) Air vehicle controls are extremely poor, you can no longer rotate the helicopter left/right with the pedal keys! Yes you can. X and C are the default I believe. 6) No way to rebind the ALT key to something else? Yup, there is. I set it to "O", which I have mapped on my mouse (scrollwheel tilt right). Always worked fine. 7) No way to invert the mouse ONLY on aircraft True. 8) Radio sounds like SHIT, and it has the same bug that existed in OFP and Arma code where you can click a lot for fire-cease fire and it will keep repeating until ALL ARE DONE... meaning radio queues up and keeps annoying you until all actions are done... fix this please, especially if you are using such an annoying radio technology... Also true. It's unfortunate, but hopefully they will fix it. 9) When laying on a field, yes grass can be high in real life, but in this game you cant move it, or look over the grass - you are essentially blind while laying in grass - but the super ai can see you...! Why not try making it semi transparent to simulate one eye looking around, and one eye looking at the grass, this way you can see the enemies in your line of sight... You can flatten grass by crawling of rolling over it. Works fine for everyone else. 10) Another one.. Very high settings on 1920x1080 benchmark VS 900x something on VERY LOW.. Only gives an additional 2 frames per second... Do you perhaps have fillrate on 200%? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJumper 10 Posted June 27, 2009 Don't want Securom ? Get the STEAM version without securom ! http://store.steampowered.com/app/33900/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecool 0 Posted June 27, 2009 I know about X and C buttons, but they dont work when you are going faster :-( is what I meant to say... I tried post processing to off, but the blur is still there, not as much but the game looks a lot worse with it off :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) 1) Motion blur, only happens on the ground Google "Keygety's no blur" 2) I cant walk normally while holding the gun, there is only fast forward and really fast forward, or EXTREMELY SLOW forward...... I like OFP where you can walk slow, walk faster while holding gun, and sprint with gun down Not sure what you mean, but with iron sights it's really slow (as it should be, otherwise you'll lose aim), faster with iron sites down, double tap to sprint with gun down. It's been a couple of years since I played OFP but it seemed the same to me. 3) Steering in vehicles sucks with the mouse - make it like ofp where you look where you are going instead of having to hold alt! Yeah, can't really argue this one. 4) Moving the mouse has minor delay in land vehicles, and while walking - this is the only game that has this delay and I run crysis, farcry2 and others at 1920x1080 full settings with no frame drop, no lag - smooth is key guys!!! I've seen this issue with some other people, never noticed it myself, but I think it has to do with mouse DPI (and yes, there's an invisible mouse smoothing too), but I had a similarish thing where my mouse felt very sluggish. I raised the mouse DPI and lowered the ingame sensitivity and it runs like a dream now. 5) Air vehicle controls are extremely poor, you can no longer rotate the helicopter left/right with the pedal keys! Think that was mentioned but yeah, X and C, it's not the most sensitive but it's good as long as you don't expect to throw a full 180 fast. 6) No way to rebind the ALT key to something else? Never tried, but where there's a will :) 7) No way to invert the mouse ONLY on aircraft Never tried again sorry. 8) Radio sounds like SHIT, and it has the same bug that existed in OFP and Arma code where you can click a lot for fire-cease fire and it will keep repeating until ALL ARE DONE... meaning radio queues up and keeps annoying you until all actions are done... fix this please, especially if you are using such an annoying radio technology... I don't know why people complain so much, I love it, kinda a OFP reminder for me. The alternate being to manually record a command for the 100,000 odd possibilities of radio commands in game. 9) When laying on a field, yes grass can be high in real life, but in this game you cant move it, or look over the grass - you are essentially blind while laying in grass - but the super ai can see you...! Why not try making it semi transparent to simulate one eye looking around, and one eye looking at the grass, this way you can see the enemies in your line of sight... You can actually move around to lower the grass around your immediate area (not that that helps a lot), or you can lower the terrain detail to make grass vanish (not a very good fix as it looks like OFP) Semi-transparent would be good, but very hard on the graphics engine. EDIT : Forgot to mention that another trick, while not too reality like, is to goto 3rd person and hold breath, as a bonus you can go straight to zoom/iron sights from 3rd person. As for the AI. Technically the AI can't see through grass (heavily tested), that said, the moment you make a noise they know your general position and will light it up, and the more noise you make the faster they hone in on you. 10) Another one.. Very high settings on 1920x1080 benchmark VS 900x something on VERY LOW.. Only gives an additional 2 frames per second... Something funky going on there with your setup, noticed someone else mention that problem in the demo thread. With mine I got from 60fps at 900 to 28 fps at 1920, so not sure there. Edited June 27, 2009 by Bulldogs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecool 0 Posted June 27, 2009 Quad Core 4gb ram 8800 GT OC video card Xp Water cooled... Yes, I am testing the demo before buying.. I was going to buy it, but saw the demo, luckily I did! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted June 27, 2009 From what I've seen, using the 8800gt/9800gt on arma struggles when going over 1280, then again, that core was never great for handling high resolutions as oppose to the competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 27, 2009 From what I've seen, using the 8800gt/9800gt on arma struggles when going over 1280, then again, that core was never great for handling high resolutions as oppose to the competition. Decent FPS in A2 (and most newer games if we are being honest) @ 1900 x 1080/1200 is not a realistic expectation on an 8800GT. I'm not trying to be a d!ck but some people here have to start realising this isn't a "technical problem" or a "bug", it is just a limitation of almost 3 year old hardware. Cheers, Eth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted June 27, 2009 Heh, yarr, i agree completely. For low resolutions the 9800/8800 is fine, but it's an old core now and can't handle what it used to... pity, I loved it for so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbane 0 Posted June 27, 2009 Doesn't the 8800 have trouble with modern/advanced shaders? Even peeps with 8800x2 were having trouble, they upgraded to a GTX and voila, issue solved. Those are old cards, man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datter 0 Posted June 27, 2009 If you need persuading you shouldn't buy it. It's really that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecool 0 Posted June 27, 2009 I still cant find the option to make driving like OFP The 8800 GT OC works fine at 1920x1080 on Farcry 2 at MAX settings, also on Crysis, COD WAW and a lot of other newer games.. I get solid fps on all these other games, however on this one, I get 21 fps on low settings (and it looks like duke nukem 3d if not worse) with a resolution of 900 x something 16:9 - and 20 fps at 1920x1080 and MAXIMUM custom settings - and it looks pretty good!!! Something is wrong with the game, not the hardware :-P ---------- Post added at 08:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 PM ---------- Another issue.. 11) Swimming, awesome, you can swim, I like it... BUT! While bobbing up and down, when you go underwater slightly, you can see clearly, then the haze comes when you go down a little more... 12) Swimming... It takes a long time to turn around in the water, now I dont know about you, but when I was in the military we did exercises with full gear and we could do a 180 a lot faster than the current 5 seconds or so it takes in game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) I still cant find the option to make driving like OFPThe 8800 GT OC works fine at 1920x1080 on Farcry 2 at MAX settings, also on Crysis, COD WAW and a lot of other newer games.. I get solid fps on all these other games, however on this one, I get 21 fps on low settings (and it looks like duke nukem 3d if not worse) with a resolution of 900 x something 16:9 - and 20 fps at 1920x1080 and MAXIMUM custom settings - and it looks pretty good!!! Something is wrong with the game, not the hardware :-P The 8800 is 3 years old. That's the bottom line. There are problems with the game; but no solution that is going to magically make an 8800 GT work well at that resolution. Telling me you can run game X @ that resolution @ max details doesn't change the fact that it will not run A2 @ that resolution @ max details. Again, there are problems with A2, I won't deny that. Old hardware is not one of them. It's up to you to upgrade or lower your expectations/resolution/detail settings. Edited June 27, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecool 0 Posted June 27, 2009 its the GT OC... Faster than the GT.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 27, 2009 its the GT OC... Faster than the GT.. It's still almost 3 years old overclocked or not. I don't want to derail the thread. I'm just trying to differentiate between actual "technical problems" and unrealistic expectations. Cheers, Eth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted June 27, 2009 If you need persuading you shouldn't buy it. It's really that simple. +1, it's not our money mate - Personally, the 42 euro I spent on ARMA 2 are together with the 42 euros I spent on buying OFP are the best money I have spent when it comes to games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mojo 0 Posted June 27, 2009 +1, it's not our money mate - Personally, the 42 euro I spent on ARMA 2 are together with the 42 euros I spent on buying OFP are the best money I have spent when it comes to games. Right on. Either you like it or not, you don't have to like it, that isn't core to my happiness. The mods and community stuff will enhance this game well beyond what is default off-the-shelf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 0 Posted June 27, 2009 7) Switch the position of nose forward/back with eachother using the bindings menu... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balgorg 10 Posted June 27, 2009 This game has really been pissing me off, but I am glad I brought it. The arma series (inc OfP) campaign has never really interested me, and as you buy new hardware you come back and you gradually begin to enjoy what you first found frustrating. Im no fan of the Chernarus map, but im sure once my pc can run it ill be happy. For now i am concentrating on the custom maps, and other features. Porting over content from Arma 1. That sort of thing. I am loving it. If you read my posts over the last week or so I have been rather scathing, mainly because the game wasnt adequately play tested befor release, a company symptom perhaps. It was just like this with arma, and OfP, but eventually things got fixed, and the game evolved to a better state. So I would advise you to buy it, experiment with the Addons, many as there will inevitably be, and next year when you have a vamped up pc you will be glad you did. (did i just say that ????). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no use for a name 0 Posted June 27, 2009 I know about X and C buttons, but they dont work when you are going faster :-( is what I meant to say... This is how it is in real life...the faster you in a helicopter it flys more like a plane so the rudder inputs don't have as much of an effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saedrin 10 Posted June 27, 2009 7) No way to invert the mouse ONLY on aircraft Reverse the mouse assignments in the aircraft tab to use mouse down for pull up and mouse up for dive down. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecool 0 Posted June 28, 2009 Cant reverse the mouse assignments - it inverts for everything... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted June 28, 2009 I'm running a 9800gt OC and the game runs fine, and by "fine" I mean at medium settings I get 40fps, at high it's around 25ish, but I run at 1280x1024. If I go higher I know it'll crap out because it's based on the 8800gt core which is an old core. (actually, they're effectively the same card) People have gotten so stuck on the Crysis thing that they look at any game that comes out and compare it to Crysis even though Crysis uses a completely different system. If you attempted to use the Cry Engine with Arma's setup the game wouldn't run and wouldn't be worth playing anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecool 0 Posted June 29, 2009 Any news on the mouse lag, very bothersome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
