HWM ADDONS PACK V4.0 - WIP

[Αplion 1122]

And ... the US version ....

... just let me know your opinion about that version (texture) and keep in mind, as always, that this is a poor quality image.

Just for your info the actual color is close enough to ArmA default UH-60 Heli.

For a better quality image : CLICK HERE

[xnodunitx 0]

Hmmm..I would recommend tweaking the eye just a bit, their also usually located near the front instruments or the eye is infront of the teeth.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian_reynolds/2758021460/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93118768@N00/348715646/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/madphotog/286177297/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/madphotog/180407681/sizes/l/

It can actually however work but I would highly recommend tilting the eye, pupils in a good position.  Reason being is right now it has more of a..."I came" expression if you get my drift.

I'm also a bit concerned with how plastic the specular makes it look, is that just due to the engines graphic limitation or are the strength properties still being toyed with?

Also if you're open to suggestions I would recommend making the US version look a bit more worn, they've been in service for so long that all of the cleaning has caused a many paint to smudge, smear discolor and so on, not to mention good old weather defects.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37585658@N00/2891544684/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12540000@N05/1911956259/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31921575@N04/3079772165/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmonsfamily/3030141535/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/newbiephotoguy/1354860745/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32724515@N02/3055231609/

And the winner for the most worn AH-64... http://www.flickr.com/photos/timntex/1761675677/sizes/l/

[suhsjake 1]

Most AH-64s that I have seen do not have shark teeth. So, could you do a version with and with out shark teeth?

[Αplion 1122]

OK ... I admit that my texturing approach was ... lets say ... more artistic than realistic.

I'll remove the shark-teeth, I'll try to add some more worn ...

What I need ... a valid squadron decal in order to place it at engines side cowls.

Another thing I've noticed is that the "UNITED STATES ARMY" must be placed closer to body than tail so I'll try that also.

I'm open to any more suggestions.

[Αplion 1122]

Also please allow me a quick color comparison with the BI default UH-60 ...

[soldier2390 0]

looks great! i wish you would release them each as a different pbo.s so i dont have to lose need space i could put each one in a different modfolder, one with all greek, one all us, and one all racs! please!!!! also you should add a quick little dome to some of them to make ah-64ds!

[wolfbite 8]

Tbh I really like the sharkteeth version i just think the mouth neds to hit the bottom.. Like in example photo's.... Not enough birds with nose art anymore i say! Anyway this addon looks fantastic best luck guys

[sparky 0]

then i quote myself, since have passed quite a few pages.

here are some answers about requests

NOW LET'S GET TO SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS

after a lor of forum requests/pms etc.

hwm has decided the following:

1) from this point and so on HWM addons will be compatible with XEH (extended event handlers). That means that HWM_Air which going to be released (huey,ah64) will support XEH.

2)Racs and US versions will be released as COMPLETELY STANDALONE. But since this requires somework the us/acs version will be released about 15-20 days after the release of the greek versions

[xnodunitx 0]

Hardly anything wrong with using nose art like a few squadrons do, it just needs a bit of a tweak so it looks more fearsome and less like it had orga- you can guess the rest .

Although the blades should be a mostly dull grey, they don't use markings on them anymore, unless in this case you are trying to mimic the UH-60 in which case nevermind.

There is another texture suggestion I would make for more realism, and its rather small, dependent on specular really. The words United States Army and the grey stripes on the engine are more reflective to sunlight then the green paint on the helo, just alittle bit..I don't have a picture of it right now but I'll see if I can find one, otherwise no other ideas at the moment.

[manzilla 1]

Well if the thread was read or at least searched prior to any posts it would probably make the content creators job a little easier. Ah but who am I kinding.

A word search is simple and only takes a few seconds.

Above the page numbers at the bottom of page there's a "Print this topic" link. Click that then go to Edit in your browser and select "Find". Search for a word, in this case standalone and viola!

[Αplion 1122]

OK guys .. thanks for the feedback ... I'll do my best to make it as better as I can. I hope the final result to be better than the current one.

I'll be back with this bird texture completed (in pictures) or published

Thanks again.

[soldier2390 0]

thanks! and sorry for the trouble everyone, since the last few posts seems to be pointed in my direction, and sorry for having not read all of through all of it(although i pretty much did)! and i would like to say great job on the ah-64A's! thier outstanding!

[manzilla 1]

Nah it's all good bud. I just figured I'd let you in on the biggest secret trick on these forums. Hell it took me 5yrs+ and a new forum name until I ever knew about it. Like myself and many others, I didn't know this trick until I was told.

Good to have you around and enjoy the game.

HWM crew,

I've said this a bunch and I'll stick to it. You guys have some serious Modding skills. It's always nice to see your progress. Thanks for the pics and thanks for the continued work in ArmA. With out you guys and others many of us would've "put this game on the shelf" well over a year ago.

[.kju 3241]

Maybe you are interested in this.

There is a game called EECH. It seems some community guy from

SimHQ has made a HQ cockpit retex for the AH64D.

You may want to check it out and get in contact with the guy.

This update is about his Mi24 cockpit, yet the AH64D files are

in there too.

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2638836/1.html

[Αplion 1122]

OK ... thats a short textures update for the US version ...

..more warn added

..shark teeth removed

..yellow stripes at rotors blades are same tone as BIS UH-60

..some other details (might not viewable in these pics below)

...any final tuning will be shown upon release.

Cheers.

[wolfbite 8]

Real nice mate! Looks like I'm gonna havta add sharksteeth meself lol

[GD Mast 0]

Looking great!  I wish they kept the sharkmouth too.  Just used  xnodunitx's pictures for reference.

[xnodunitx 0]

The wear so far looks good but to add more definition you may want to add a bit more paint smearing and smudging due to the cleaning materials.  -example http://flickr.com/photos/msh-images/2943028343/sizes/l/  A simple run over with the dodge and burn tool should do this quite easily

http://flickr.com/photos/labanex/1390391676/sizes/l/ as you can see even at this distance the wear is quite easily seen so don't worry much about going overboard

Also I wasn't going to call on it before as I heard it was WIP but the M230 muzzle appears to be more of a copper color, it needs to be more silver.  http://flickr.com/photos/quadrofonic/3072653019/

http://flickr.com/photos/cl191/2942974548/

http://flickr.com/photos/msh-images/2943892536/

http://flickr.com/photos/quadrofonic/3073487512/

Like Shadow I'm also curious as to wether or not the pilots will have IHADSS, - http://flickr.com/photos/glyndavies/1152779915/sizes/o/

http://flickr.com/photos/slick1ru2/2281911635/

the helmet

[Αplion 1122]

@ xnodunitx ... thanks for info and pics mate.

Now regarding nose art (shark teeth, etc) I thought that it will be better this chopper to be released without any special markings like that, just to be used generally as US chopper in conjuction with default BIS choppers. In anyway I think that it will be no problem to anyone wants to add some art for personal use.

Regards

[Serclaes 0]

Excellent job guys. I guess i can't do any better  

Oh, one thing that would be cool to add, is the RKSL rotor stuff. Like rotorblades bending upwards when stressed or visible collective as seen on the UH-1D.

[kasrkin85th 1]

@Serclaes: i think this is already in the addon. when you look carfully at the in flight pic you can see that the rotorblades are a bit up.

@HWM: can you post some more pics of the racs version, please?

[Αplion 1122]

@HWM: can you post some more pics of the racs version, please?

...upon request ... (color tone needs tweeking)

Cheers

[lennard 447]

Looks great. I suggest you should keep the FFAR Rocket pod original green though.

Lennard.

[kasrkin85th 1]

@Apilon: thx, looks very good so far.

[Wardog26 0]

niiiice! looks really great but is there any chance of a black version exact same everything just black?

also hows the FLIR going? improved a little more?