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Terrorist Takedown 2 GROM style units by Maza 94 v 1.00

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Eprison.de Mirror :

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Thx to Schnapsdrosel

for textures and fixed shadow bugs.

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heh

first you were flaming my addons now i have possibility to say something smile_o.gif

as you told that Beryl has fire selector on right side of receiver, as you asked for Polish T80 tank in P85 mod, as you asked Bionic about Polish reskin of Leopard 2A5, as you showed German flak vest saying it is Polish, now i see something on the same level of realism as Polish T80 and Leopard 2A5 tanks and Beryl with AKMS fire selector ;]

you were laughing that my Police has PM98 and G36 Eotech some time ago

those facts proved me that you have no military knowledge and now you are releasing GROM ?

some time ago you were banned from Polish forums, later you started flaming here on my addons realism, so now i have few words of comment about this "GROM" addon

1) why you called it "Grom" huh.gif

GROM style ?

http://nic.konto.avx.pl/kamizelki/viewtopic.php?t=113

http://www.grom.mil.pl/galeria_pliki/Irak_pliki/34.jpg

http://www.grom.mil.pl/galeria_pliki/Afganistan_pliki/3.jpg

http://www.grom.mil.pl/galeria_pliki/Irak_pliki/26.jpg

look how looks Polish uniform,

as you were assuming my every post with flamming, now i will say not flamming, but some true words :]

this what i see on screens is not Polish uniform, size of pattern seems too big, looks more like US-woodland in Polish desert colours scheme

2 )GROM is using MOLLE ?

3) G36 in Polish army ?

as i know it is used by Goverment Secutity Bureau and by Police, because G36 rifles were bought by Ministry of Internal Affairs and Administration, not by Ministry of Defence (Grom is part of Army, not Police)

G36 were bought for tests but Army gave it to Police and GROM choose M4 with different scopes due to STANAG standart issues in foreign operations mostly with US troops

Grom uses M4 smile_o.gif

if you wanna go with Beryls with fire selector on the right side of receiver instead left, if you wanna go with Polish T80 and Leopard 2A5, you have free will, but don't accuse/flame my addons about non-realism and don't flame my addons anymore

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I think its based on game "Terrorist Takedown 2" not actual real GROM soldiers.

Game was shitty IMHO and so is yours addon. Sorry for being rude, I'm pretty sure you will get more experience and finally quality will be better.

Thats just my opinion. Keep working.

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3) G36 in Polish army ?

as i know it is used by Goverment Secutity Bureau and by Police, because G36 rifles were bought by Ministry of Internal Affairs and Administration, not by Ministry of Defence (Grom is part of Army, not Police)

G36 were bought for tests but Army gave it to Police and GROM choose M4 with different scopes due to STANAG standart issues in foreign operations mostly with US troops

Grom uses M4 smile_o.gif

They might also use a G36 from time to time, not shure on that...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GROM

Equipment

* Bushmaster M4A3 assault rifle (often with M203 grenade launcher attached)

* Heckler & Koch Mk.23 and Heckler & Koch USP

* Heckler & Koch MP5 submachine gun

* Heckler & Koch G36 assault rifles in various versions

* Heckler & Koch HK416 D10RS and D145RS

* FN Five-seveN

* FN P90 TR

* FN F2000 Tactical

* FN SCAR

* FN Minimi

* KAC SR-25 sniper rifle

* Accuracy International AWM AWM-F sniper rifle

* Barrett M107

* Manroy M2 QCB

* SAAB Bofors Dynamics Carl Gustav M3

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GROM is not using G36, Grom is using M4 , read more than Wikipedia smile_o.gif

every special unit in the world buys as much different rifles as they can to teach soldiers use EVERY weapon they can meet during action, as we had action in NATO, than we get some NATO rifles to teach soldiers use them, like my friend from commado was taught to use M16A2 when he was paratrooper smile_o.gif

it is normal way of training in every special unit of every country, like US special forces has AK47, SKS in arsenal, because there might be action in which they will loose their weapon and have to use enemy retaken

Russian army special units probably have teaching/training examples of M4, M16, G36 too

but would you do addon of US special forces with AK huh.gif

would you do Specnaz with M16 ?

Ministry of Defence has few G36 to teach commando use weapons that they can meet in action, like they might have Saiga, maybe they have Ak74M, maybe they have Groza, like they have PPSh-41 and DP27 ;]

but other thing is - that they are equipped with as I remember Bushmaster M4

not "teaching example"

and that makes big difference :]

but for me - there is no sense to discuss with addonmaker who asks for Polish T80, Polish Leopard 2A5, Beryl with AKM receiver, German flak vest as standart Polish vest, Police not using Glauberyt and G36 Eotech, army not using steel helmets and soviet pouches for AK's....

you are not main maker of this addon, so i can tell more, but Maza proved in many posts his "knowledge" about his country army and Police :]

i see no sense with further discussion about facts that are denied smile_o.gif

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Russian army special units probably have teaching/training examples of M4, M16, G36 too

If they didnt have them before they surely have enough material now wink_o.gif

About the Addon, well quality isnt that great but Vilas knows how this is, with enough training any many tries one day they may look excellent.

However currently they are nothing for me.

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Well he gave you some advices and I think it was pletora of useful infos ! icon_rolleyes.gif

BTW: Keep your temper down oki ? I don't know why do you keep flaming vilas, keep that rivalry for yourself mad_o.gif

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2Vilas

Are you blind or you can't read?

THAT ADDON BASED ON GROM SOLIDERS FROM TERRORIST TAKEDOWN 2 GAME!!!!

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( screeny sobie zobacz drogi "kolego" )

http://www.terroristtakedown2game.com/screenshots/2.jpg

http://www.terroristtakedown2game.com/screenshots/6.jpg

http://www.terroristtakedown2game.com/screenshots/8.jpg

Ok but still... does it make sense to recreate units from a rahter cheap game that didnt really focus on realism at all?

Especially because you tend to criticise people if their addons arent 100% correct ( or what you think is 100% correct ).

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yes, especially if persons who know my topic know what i meant here

after many of my posts in my topic Maza was spaming my topic with untruth/unreal posts, like for example i made not correct weapons, i used wrong vest, i used wrong model of something and etc.

if he wasn't saying opinions like "Beryl should have fire selector like AK, you made wrong" or showing airsofters German vest and saying my soldiers models are wrong, cause i used wrong type of vest, or i made wrong Police, cause i equipped them with something ... or he shows picture of prototype not introduced into production and says i should equip soldiers in other way because "on movie" that he saw it was other way

...

but he did it many many times

if he was not saying about not realism in my addons before... but he did

i thought i should react :]

i hope he will give it up to spam my topic anymore with words like "will you do Polish T80 in mod?"

if he wants answer, let he think some more and do some researches before saying i made something wrong

i don't want to spam this topic anymore, i hope he will stop his spamming my topic with his "version" of Beryl technical details ;]

he can do whatever he wants in his addon, but not with saying that my weapon is wrong, my vest is wrong, my helmet is wrong and ater this... photos on links show how looks real Polish army :]

he started with editing my addon some months ago, i told him not to use my/YACIEK textures and he started to flame on my topic after this, now i hope he will stop biggrin_o.gif

if you cryticize someone for not realism realism - than make something more real

if you cryticize someone for realism and you say it should be upside-down, than ... you are ... no comment

amen

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Oh my god, vilas... Find your mind and show that you are not a kid... maza has got his own life, if you don't like him - ignore him.

If he spam in your topic, send a pm to moderator.

Don't answer this post, just stop this offtopic.

[edit] You're the one who started offtopic, but it's good that you ended it. If you want to say something, pm me, also I can give you a nice secret to make you know who's the real re**ard. Really wink_o.gif

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2Vilas

Are you blind or you can't read?

THAT ADDON BASED ON GROM SOLIDERS FROM TERRORIST TAKEDOWN 2 GAME!!!!

mad_o.gif

( screeny sobie zobacz drogi "kolego" )

http://www.terroristtakedown2game.com/screenshots/2.jpg

http://www.terroristtakedown2game.com/screenshots/6.jpg

http://www.terroristtakedown2game.com/screenshots/8.jpg

I'm going with Vilas on this one,

Your original post only say TT2 style units, not that they are from TT2...................

Your post wasn't all that clear.

But enough of silly arguments now, people can make their own minds up. If they like they use, if they don't, they won't.........

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I agree that his relentless spamming got old quick but I don't see anywhere that he claimed they were supposed to be realistic representations. That's just my 2c.

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GROM is not using G36, Grom is using M4 , read more than Wikipedia smile_o.gif

every special unit in the world buys as much different rifles as they can to teach soldiers use EVERY weapon they can meet during action, as we had action in NATO, than we get some NATO rifles to teach soldiers use them, like my friend from commado was taught to use M16A2 when he was paratrooper smile_o.gif

it is normal way of training in every special unit of every country, like US special forces has AK47, SKS in arsenal, because there might be action in which they will loose their weapon and have to use enemy retaken

Russian army special units probably have teaching/training examples of M4, M16, G36 too

but would you do addon of US special forces with AK huh.gif

would you do Specnaz with M16 ?

Ministry of Defence has few G36 to teach commando use weapons that they can meet in action, like they might have Saiga, maybe they have Ak74M, maybe they have Groza, like they have PPSh-41 and DP27 ;]

but other thing is - that they are equipped with as I remember Bushmaster M4

not "teaching example"

and that makes big difference :]

but for me - there is no sense to discuss with addonmaker who asks for Polish T80, Polish Leopard 2A5, Beryl with AKM receiver, German flak vest as standart Polish vest, Police not using Glauberyt and G36 Eotech, army not using steel helmets and soviet pouches for AK's....

you are not main maker of this addon, so i can tell more, but Maza proved in many posts his "knowledge" about his country army and Police :]

i see no sense with further discussion about facts that are denied smile_o.gif

:]

Well, I didn't want to question your knowledge about the polish forces nor the quality of your work (I like your stuff). If this would have been my addon I certainly would have chosen another weapon for these units. But after seeing the pics from TT2 and checking on wiki, I thought the G36K fits for this addon... Maza asked politely for some help and as a good member of the Arma community I gave him a bit of support, as you know getting started with an addon isn't an easy task. In my opinion for a first addon this is not bad, it has no bigger errors or bugs or anything at least it's NOT "shitty", "complete dog poop" or an addon from a "re**ard".   mad_o.gif

Some people from Poland still might like it  wink_o.gif . Maza seems to be a very controversial person, as many people have issues with him, but you vilas seem to be grown up enough to stand above these things…  thumbs-up.gif

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[sarcazm] Maza - I would like to see City Interactive consent for the use of their texture.I think that Offtime will not be impressed. Again, do not use their work, For what you have been banned in the Polish community. [/sarcazm]

@ Schnapsdrosel

Although good work, it has little in common with GROM. Textures details and details of equipment would improve significantly the quality of addon.

regards - Yac

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@ Schnapsdrosel

Although good work, it has little in common with GROM. Textures details and details of equipment would improve significantly the quality of addon.  

                       regards - Yac

As I already said, this is not my mod, it's Mazas. All I did was make some quick textures based on some reference pics I got from Maza. This is the best that could have been done from that, but I agree with you, that more detailed textures would be an improvement for his addon. If the person who takes care of this issue will be me - the future will show wink_o.gif

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If the person who takes care of this issue will be me - the future will show  wink_o.gif

Amen to that .

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I'm not trying to start any problems here, I just have to say though that I'm shocked at how vehement the community gets over something as simple as a slightly non-realistic texture.  I get that there was already some bad blood here, but damn.  I haven't seen anything like this since I played WoW.... Just my two cents, so feel free to ignore me. I just had to get it off my chest.

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