shockhorror 0 Posted March 19, 2007 I have recently purchased vista ultimate 32bit and an evga 8800gtx 768mb i installed them on a clean hard drive and updated to the latest drivers. now when i try to run arma (1.05); textures do not load properly and it is slow as anything unless i have the resolution at 1024x768 and even then its not smooth. i am suffering from graphical issues on plenty of programs usually stuttering except halflife 2 or prey. here are my specs: AMD ATH64 X2 4800+ @2.47GHz 2047mb Ram eVGA8800GTX ACS3 768mb Vista Ultimate 32bit Realtek AC97 (Audigy is not recognised?!?) Any help apreciated or if you are suffering from similar issues tell us so i know i'm not alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted March 19, 2007 Vista = nono... drivers are poo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troop 0 Posted March 19, 2007 I agree;..playing games on Vista right now is pure 'gamble'. It may be more stable and with better overall results in 3-6 month from now. Current games *may* run phantastically;...with *any* variaty of problems;..or not at all. Audigy needs 'workaround driver'; emulating direct hardware access via openal. MS cut support on direct hardware access, which is required by Audigy onward to make EAX-HD working. Even with the workaround wrapper, not all functions are avaiable;..which is an MAJOR disappointment for any owner. - Edit: I really wonder, what will happen when Crysis; apparently the first DirectX10 game, will emerge. If *that* one doesnt run correctly;...the shit truly hits the fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockhorror 0 Posted March 20, 2007 crysis will pwn (i hope). it's all us vista users have to cling on to. drivers are a bit wanky. games react totaly individualy to new vista, COH don't work at all, Oblivion looks better than ever, X3 a no no (starforce drivers), prey fine, quake 4 poo, halflife 2 gorgeous, arma decidedly dodgey. i have found that most games cock up at 1900x1200 which is odd because my screen can take it (dell wfp2407) and my card should put it out (8800gtx). i think i'm gonna invest in some more ram and a decent sound card. other than that i'll have to play the waiting game (looking at you nvidia). Cheers anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertfox 2 Posted March 20, 2007 The above post is a must-read for the "medium-well-educated-Vista-users" who almost start to scream and stomp their feet when you tell them there is a difference between Vista and XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimLad 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Well I even reinstalled XP to try ArmA, and it was exactly the same as under Vista - terrible performance, missing textures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-UK 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Hmm try disabling AC97 in bios.. you could get crap performance from the hardware + EAX ingame too if the game is using the AC97... If your card isnt being detected.. is it connected properly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troop 0 Posted March 21, 2007 Hehe;..slightly offtopic, but then again; doesnt this bit fit oh-so-nicely what have been written herein with regards to Vista-gameplay(issues) ? Recommended, funny read(Stalker on an uber-machine) http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7971246&publicUserId=5380845 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockhorror 0 Posted March 26, 2007 don't even get me started on stalker, managed to get augidy working and disabled ac97. It did, wait for it, fuck all... oh well back to oblivion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtylarrygb 0 Posted March 30, 2007 don't even get me started on stalker, managed to get augidy working and disabled ac97. It did, wait for it, fuck all... oh well back to oblivion. An insane idea!!!!!!!!!!!!, why not a buy a little 80 gig sata hard drive costs about 30 pounds... Install Win XP SP 2 on it, then play all current games fine, you can do an uber clever choose which windows thing at start up. That way you can "ohhh and arrrr" at aero and web browse or boot XP to play games and use the 99999 programmes that generally only work in XP right now. I like to think of Vista as MAC OS x right now, very pretty, very secure but runs "fuck all" but World Of Warcraft, Photoshop and a web browser.... Yep Vista and Mac OS X, run the same programmes fine, bit freaky that... Right now, theres the same chance a XP game will work on MAC OS x or Linnux as it will in Vista ROFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockhorror 0 Posted March 30, 2007 funnily enough theres a seagate baracuda underneath this here empty beer can. Back to xp.. heres to microsoft and all the software developers who can't get there arses in gear. thanks for the help. now if i could only fit it in the case (8800) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tracer Gun Kata 0 Posted March 30, 2007 funnily enough theres a seagate baracuda underneath this here empty beer can. Â Back to xp.. heres to microsoft and all the software developers who can't get there arses in gear. thanks for the help. now if i could only fit it in the case (8800) I run Vista with my Quad Core Extreme Rig with an EVGA 8800 GTX. I found the following settings from another user quite helpful. Good FPS and no graphics glitches as yet. 8800 destruction tested 768MB VRAM (1600x1024,) Single Player/Multiplayer best look + FPS Viewrange: 1200-1800 Terrain Detail: low* Object Detail: very high Texture Detail: low* Shading Detail: very high Post Process: LOW* Anisotrophic: very high Shadow Detail: OFF or VERYHIGH Antialiasing: NORMAL Blood: High Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre From Belgium 0 Posted March 30, 2007 ...textures do not load properly... Do like me... Uninstall the game and  > B O Y C O T T  A A !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted March 30, 2007 ...textures do not load properly... Do like me... Uninstall the game and  > B O Y C O T T  A A !!! And following your guideline i will sell my car because it doesn't feature the hybrid engine technique - what a shame. Nah seriously - boykotting a game because the developers didn't jump onto the lemming's tour - 'everybody has to use Vista because they want to sell it now and not when there's use for it' doesn't make sense at all. You bought ArmA because you did want to play it - well You got Vista because ...... Yeah because it was included into your new rig even tho you didn't ask for it. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted March 30, 2007 be onest, i even have no ideas, who in right mind, with out of presure (gun pointed to the head) will install or upgrade to Windows Vista? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted March 30, 2007 You got Vista because ...... Â Yeah because it was included into your new rig even tho you didn't ask for it. Â that why , normaly , u should not buy completed system, u should desine and build ur own , customised, system. then u have chose what OS to use, if u want realy good one, u can install Win XP Media Center Edition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted March 30, 2007 You got Vista because ......  Yeah because it was included into your new rig even tho you didn't ask for it.  that why , normaly , u should not buy completed system, u should  desine and build ur own , customised, system. then u have chose what OS to use, if u want realy good one, u can install Win XP Media Center Edition I agree on you Key Dutch but you know there are some people out there who do not expect to have enough knowledge or time to waste to get into the knowledge to do so - so they buy a complete system or a system where there windows is already installed. That they bought a system which they do not know or do not have control about what is running when is not a problem for them but a game has to take people like them in mind so that they can lean back and have all their homework done by others. Off course if the guy who made their homework didn't work correctly they aren't interested in since they didn't even bother trying to understand what problems could appear or what not. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Animal-22 0 Posted March 30, 2007 There are some arrogant people around here. Shut up about Vista already. The point is the ArmA isn't playing well on Vista and those of us who ARE using Vista would like to know if there is any solution on the horizon. Further, there are PLENTY of people who have this severe texture issues that are NOT playing on Vista. The problem isn't solely related to Vista although it does make it a little worse. PS- the only app. or game I have had the first problem with on Vista is ArmA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted March 30, 2007 Quote[/b] ]There are some arrogant people around here Do you mean those who ignore the fact that ArmA isn't guaranted to work without problems on Vista or those trying to point out that boykotting something because of using it the wrong way isn't the right way? Quote[/b] ]Shut up about Vista already My words Quote[/b] ]The point is the ArmA isn't playing well on Vista and those of us who ARE using Vista would like to know if there is any solution on the horizon Not an official that i have heard about yet Quote[/b] ]Further, there are PLENTY of people who have this severe texture issues that are NOT playing on Vista Those will sure get supported by patches, hotfixes, or guidelines ArmA side (in case the problem comes from ArmA) Quote[/b] ]PS- the only app. or game I have had the first problem with on Vista is ArmA This only indicates that your Vista is also not perfect like the one of those many many others who have problems with all kind of games and Vista. However i see your problem is that you would like to run ArmA to be able to play it without glitches so i won't blame you for it since it's a good choice and i feel sorry for you that you can't enjoy in the game. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted March 30, 2007 I agree on you Key Dutch but you know there are somepeople out there who do not expect to have enough knowledge or time to waste to get into the knowledge to do so - so they buy a complete system or a system where there windows is already installed... here we have problem with bloody Bill , who try unload unfineshed OS, and stupid Electronic hardware stores support him, insted provide to costemers, solid and stable OS, pruven by time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtylarrygb 0 Posted March 30, 2007 There are some arrogant people around here. Shut up about Vista already. The point is the ArmA isn't playing well on Vista and those of us who ARE using Vista would like to know if there is any solution on the horizon. Further, there are PLENTY of people who have this severe texture issues that are NOT playing on Vista. The problem isn't solely related to Vista although it does make it a little worse. PS- the only app. or game I have had the first problem with on Vista is ArmA. Severe texture issue happens with incorrect GFX settings and older video cards. We the users have already sussed most people just need to run Low opr very low texture and ram up filtering to avoid the problem. next patch will also help. Vista and ARMA, should ARMA also work under Linnux and Mac OS, cause they have about the same users base right now. BIH have said they are looking at better vista compat' But its not just ARMA that wont work in vista. Some of the issues are hardware drivers as much as the games software. So vista users install XP, play stalker and ARMA etc now, you have an XP cd right you DO KNOW how to install an OS? or sit and whine like a mac users, "wah it won't work cry, cry, even though it DID NOT SAY VISTA ON THE BOX." I mean my PS3 game wont work on my Xbox360 WTF I demand a refund!!!!!!! For all the people saying "it wont work on vista" there are people here saying it does work. So either have fun troubleshooting or install XP! I'm sorry the smart computer users either have XP and vista on a machine or knew this would happen as this ALWAYS happens when MS update windows and won't migrate to vista till its ready. And if you bought a new PC with Vista preinstalled then I have one word for you. "Muppet!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted March 30, 2007 Severe texture issue happens with incorrect GFX settings and older video cards. Â We the users have already sussed most people just need to run Low opr very low texture and ram up filtering to avoid the problem.next patch will also help... . however, like time show b4, all Windows version (start from 3.11, 95, 98, 2000, XP nad now vista) have same weaknes, in first year or so, they highly unstable and dont do/support what they realy should. there for is solution: dont rush to get new Windows version, wait till microsoft fix all bugs and drowbacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Animal-22 0 Posted March 30, 2007 There are some arrogant people around here. Shut up about Vista already. The point is the ArmA isn't playing well on Vista and those of us who ARE using Vista would like to know if there is any solution on the horizon. Further, there are PLENTY of people who have this severe texture issues that are NOT playing on Vista. The problem isn't solely related to Vista although it does make it a little worse. PS- the only app. or game I have had the first problem with on Vista is ArmA. Severe texture issue happens with incorrect GFX settings and older video cards. Â We the users have already sussed most people just need to run Low opr very low texture and ram up filtering to avoid the problem. next patch will also help. Vista and ARMA, Â should ARMA also work under Linnux and Mac OS, Â cause they have about the same users base right now. Â BIH have said they are looking at better vista compat' Â But its not just ARMA that wont work in vista. Â Some of the issues are hardware drivers as much as the games software. So vista users install XP, Â play stalker and ARMA etc now, you have an XP cd right you DO KNOW how to install an OS? or sit and whine like a mac users, Â "wah it won't work cry, cry, Â even though it DID NOT SAY VISTA ON THE BOX." I mean my PS3 game wont work on my Xbox360 WTF I demand a refund!!!!!!! For all the people saying "it wont work on vista" there are people here saying it does work. Â So either have fun troubleshooting or install XP! I'm sorry the smart computer users either have XP and vista on a machine or knew this would happen as this ALWAYS happens when MS update windows and won't migrate to vista till its ready. And if you bought a new PC with Vista preinstalled then I have one word for you. Â "Muppet!" Wow, you can't help being a jerk, can you? You make a whole lot of assumptions about me, none of which are right, and think it makes you some sort of internet demi-god because YOU know everything. Get over yourself. First off, comparing the difference between Vista and XP to the difference between XP and Linux or MacOS is just plain laughable. Vista is the next-gen Windows OS. Secondly, I have severe texture issues at ALL settings, so thanks Inspector Gadget, but you missed on this one. Also, I was unaware that the 8800 GTS was already considered an "older video card." I also posted that I hope a solution is on the horizon... like A FRIGGIN' PATCH!!! I know the next patch will probably help. Where have I said anything about a refund or, for that matter, where have I said ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THIS GAME AT ALL? Eh, Einstein? As far as having XP AND Vista installed, I am working on it, but I think even you could comprehend the convenience of having everything work under one OS. It's funny you call me a muppet since that is where I take my nickname from, however you attempt at an insult was grossly incompetent. I installed the OS on my PC by choice. Like it or not, it's the next-gen Windows OS and those of us in the business have to get used to it. Who is really the puppet? The one who isn't counter-culture or the one who is counter-culture because that's what cool people do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Animal-22 0 Posted March 30, 2007 Severe texture issue happens with incorrect GFX settings and older video cards.  We the users have already sussed most people just need to run Low opr very low texture and ram up filtering to avoid the problem.next patch will also help... . however, like time show b4, all Windows version (start from 3.11, 95, 98, 2000, XP nad now vista) have same weaknes, in first year or so, they highly unstable and dont do/support  what they realy should. there for is solution: dont rush to  get new Windows version, wait till microsoft fix all bugs and drowbacks. The only instabilities that Vista has shown, en-masse, so far is in high-end gaming. The launch of Vista is nothing compared to the launch on Win98 or Win3.1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Key Dutch 0 Posted March 30, 2007 Severe texture issue happens with incorrect GFX settings and older video cards.  We the users have already sussed most people just need to run Low opr very low texture and ram up filtering to avoid the problem.next patch will also help... . however, like time show b4, all Windows version (start from 3.11, 95, 98, 2000, XP nad now vista) have same weaknes, in first year or so, they highly unstable and dont do/support  what they realy should. there for is solution: dont rush to  get new Windows version, wait till microsoft fix all bugs and drowbacks. The only instabilities that Vista has shown, en-masse, so far is in high-end gaming. The launch of Vista is nothing compared to the launch on Win98 or Win3.1. dont realy know, and dont want try it, at least for cople years. i dont like OS's wich take too much resorses. that why i was on 98 till last day, and on 2000, that why i stick with XP atm. no point jump to vista. look like drivers for high -end video cards not finely tuned with vista. however: "The only instabilities that Vista has shown, en-masse, so far is in high-end gaming."  could be big problem, couse mostly peeps by new systems for gaming , wich have vista on board. i would say its nasty surprise. P.S. not all buesnes need new OS, for example company for wich i work use OS desined in 1983 by IBM and upgraded in 1989, and all works, we used not bcouse we cant get new OS, but by one simple reason, we not need new OS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites