VTOL?

[Duffers 0]

I can only find help in the manual (UK version) for flying a chopper only. The same is to be said for the Wiki.

Aside from the harrier being excessively oversensitive to control, is there a way to enable the VTOL or HOVER function?

Slowing down just causes the plane to ditch.

Ta.

[Frans 0]

VTOL is supposed to be included in patch 1.05

[Duffers 0]

Aha - thanks.

[Fred DM 0]

funny, that even GTA San Andreas had those controls straight out of the box, yet a simulation like ArmA doesn't (yet).

[shadow 6]

funny, that even GTA San Andreas had those controls straight out of the box, yet a simulation like ArmA doesn't (yet).

You said it. Arma is a simulation. Its going to simulate STOVL. Its not just two more keys added to set altitude. Its a little bit more complicated than GTA

It has already been anounced that it will be present in the 1.05 patch. All good things comes to those who wait (usually).

[Maddmatt 1]

funny, that even GTA San Andreas had those controls straight out of the box, yet a simulation like ArmA doesn't (yet).

But ArmA also has plenty of stuff that GTA doesn't .

[dmitri 0]

"even GTA San Andreas"?

Go away.

[Fred DM 0]

well, is it not true then? in GTA San Andreas you could fly a Harrier, and there were keys that let you adjust the turbines. it all worked very well.

in ArmA we have the Harrier as well. but you can't hover (yet).

same situation, but ArmA isn't complete while that simple action game GTA was.

it's just another aspect of the game that should have been included 4 months ago. i mean, why else would you bother putting the Harrier in instead of the A-10 if not for the hover capability?

what's really bothering me is the kind of attitude some people here got towards the game/developers: i admit there's a lot of stuff being added to the game via patches, but many people seem to have forgotten that most of that stuff should have been in the game 4 months ago.

i understand that they probably didn't have enough time to finish everything. fine. but then the game should never have been released when it was.

[Mr Sarkey 0]

Ssshhh.

Be happy your getting it.

[Maddmatt 1]

well, is it not true then? in GTA San Andreas you could fly a Harrier, and there were keys that let you adjust the turbines. it all worked very well.

in ArmA we have the Harrier as well. but you can't hover (yet).

same situation, but ArmA isn't complete while that simple action game GTA was.

it's just another aspect of the game that should have been included 4 months ago. i mean, why else would you bother putting the Harrier in instad of the A-10 if not for the hover capability?

Well it's not exactly useless without VTOL, besides, maybe the devs don't have time to add in every single planned feature. It's coming in a patch, relax.

[easty 0]

Also guys it's not really VTOL, it's stovl. Stovl planes can take off vertically, but not with all the added weight of a full tank of fuel and all the payloads with capacity. thats why Harrier/AV8 and the STOVL variant of the JSF/F35 are short take off aircraft. I just mention this because if were saying OFP is a sim then it should replicate this.

[MehMan 0]

BAH! Every single topic, every single freaking topic people compare ArmA to game_x, this isn't game_x, also this is a much smaller developer with a smaller money supply than Rockstar or any EA developed/published game. They are adding things as they go along, but they also need money, developing takes money, if you have no money, you can't develop. Now please refrain from comparing ArmA with other games.

That's one side. At least they are going to add it with patches.

[Richieb0y 0]

@ Fred DM

im happy how bis release the game and i think many pll enjoy what they got now.

patches and free stuff is always good thing. i realy see that bis is involed in things that i never saw before(mabye WoW but that game su*** anyway)

i reg here i think saterday when i got the game that day

and read some topics and i was like **** this game promise something realy good whit the Modders. so wait and things will come 2 ya

sry for the bad english

[Fred DM 0]

BAH! Every single topic, every single freaking topic people compare ArmA to game_x, this isn't game_x, also this is a  much smaller developer with a smaller money supply than Rockstar or any EA developed/published game. They are adding things as they go along, but they also need money, developing takes money, if you have no money, you can't develop. Now please refrain from comparing ArmA with other games.

That's one side. At least they are going to add it with patches.

you've gotta be kidding! so ArmA is above criticism? no offense, but you sound like a fanboy if i've ever seen one.

ArmA is a good game, i like playing it - until i come across something that doesn't work or isn't there. unfortunately, there's a lot of that.

ArmA isn't game x, damn right, that's why you compare it to game x.

i can compare ArmA to OpF, and except for the updated engine, OpF wins.

so BIS is a small developer that hardly makes any money? so i guess they give VBS away for free to armed forces around the world...

are you suggesting they released ArmA early in some parts of europe because they needed the money to continue developing it? i could understand that, but noone ever officially said anything about that.

all i know is that they released a buggy, incomplete game (with huge potential, though) 4 months ago.

at least be honest for 2 and a half seconds and admit that ArmA is a long way from being complete. that blind fanboy attitude isn't helping anyone.

[Fred DM 0]

@ Fred DM

im happy how bis release the game and i think many pll enjoy what they got now.

patches and free stuff is always good thing. i realy see that bis is involed in things that i never saw before(mabye WoW but that game su*** anyway)

i reg here i think saterday when i got the game that day

and read some topics and i was like **** this game promise something realy good whit the Modders. so wait and things will come 2 ya

sry for the bad english

yeah, like i said, i really like the game, too. and i don't wanna come like across a flamer. on other boards, i usually speak in support of ArmA.

but being too happy with an unfinished product doesn't help anyone, either. criticism must be allowed.

and let me tell you something else: when i bought ArmA several months ago, i was, like, in heaven.   but the longer you play the more you notice stuff that is missing or not working right.

they way i see it, ArmA is pretty much in the state of OpF when it was first released. but at least the SP campaign worked well in OpF, and was a hell of a lot more intense.

ArmA is built on OpF. but it seems to me they built it on OpF 1.0 instad of OpF 1.96.

[Clavicula_nox4817 0]

Publishers set release dates, not developers.

[Fred DM 0]

Publishers set release dates, not developers.

yeah, but the developer certainly has a say, too. don't you think?

i can hardly imagine that small, unknown german publisher Morphicon could force BIS to release early. there's gotta be more to it.

505 could wait until now, which makes sense. and big, fat Atari can even wait until May. why don't they push for a quick release within the next few weeks?

[whisper 0]

OTOH it would have been a total cry everywhere if they had postponed release until next summer.

I guess it was a rather tough decision, and a rushed development because from what I understood, they started on all the advanced features barely more than 1 year ago. While already chasing publishers.

Bad release indeed, but I'm a optimistic guy.

The only REALLY bad thing so far is singleplayer content

[Duffers 0]

Nice to see my thread about - Is there VTOL? - has gone off down tangent highway.

[Fred DM 0]

Nice to see my thread about - Is there VTOL? - has gone off down tangent highway.

sorry for that. i didn't want to take it that far off topic, but i just had to get that out.

please resume original discussion.

[Duffers 0]

but i just had to get that out.

At least it wasn't wind!  

I think the answer is wait for 1.05... and I'm sure it'll beat GTA hands down [invites needless GTA is better than ArmA comments].

[MehMan 0]

you've gotta be kidding!   so ArmA is above criticism? no offense, but you sound like a fanboy if i've ever seen one.

ArmA is a good game, i like playing it - until i come across something that doesn't work or isn't there. unfortunately, there's a lot of that.

ArmA isn't game x, damn right, that's why you compare it to game x.  

i can compare ArmA to OpF, and except for the updated engine, OpF wins.

so BIS is a small developer that hardly makes any money? so i guess they give VBS away for free to armed forces around the world...  

are you suggesting they released ArmA early in some parts of europe because they needed the money to continue developing it? i could understand that, but noone ever officially said anything about that.

all i know is that they released a buggy, incomplete game (with huge potential, though) 4 months ago.

at least be honest for 2 and a half seconds and admit that ArmA is a long way from being complete. that blind fanboy attitude isn't helping anyone.

I never said it's above criticism, but I just have enough of people saying: well game_x has this, game_x has that, why doesn't ArmA have it? Simple, it's just not game_x.

And IIRC VBS wasn't the work of BIS but BIA.

And they probably released the game earlier in some parts due to the request of the publishers, I'm guessing they wanted the game released earlier so they could catch the christmas sales. But unfortunatley that did more harm to the game than good.

[Dallas 9]

Nice to see my thread about - Is there VTOL? - has gone off down tangent highway.

It was a perfect thread.

#1 Question.

#2 Answer.

#3 Thanks.

That's how you should do it. From #4 and down is what happens when perfect meets the internet. Come back in a week nad it'll be 20 pages long.  to the internet.

[DaRat 0]

Nice to see my thread about - Is there VTOL? - has gone off down tangent highway.

It was a perfect thread.

#1 Question.

#2 Answer.

#3 Thanks.

That's how you should do it. From #4 and down is what happens when perfect meets the internet. Come back in a week nad it'll be 20 pages long.  to the internet.

#1 You're adding to the OTness

#2 So am I in telling you this

#3 Wouldn't even get past your #1 without the internet

[Daniel 0]

da rat you plank. Thought this one was actually going to work.