Mapfact releases MAP_Misc

[mattxr 9]

Lets all calm down [bright *idea*] isn't it

Anyways.. why do my AI stop shooting at invisible targets after they say they have killed them? shouldn't they be invincible...??

[Lester 0]

The targets are invisble to the player, but the AI must 'see' them to fire at it.

The ... is killed/destroyed message are automatically played when the target is destroyed.

It's possible to increase the accuaracy to reduce the 'identification quality',

but then the AI must be nearer and/or show very much longer at the targets to identify them as friend or foe.

(like the version error in V1.0   )

We have to do some essential things we needed for better handling of actual and planed features of the Map_Misc,

but after that we hopefully can enhance a lot.

But this take a lot more time and the deadline lay a lot of weeks in the future.

[raedor 8]

Hehe, Matt said that the targets should be invincible, not invisible for AI

[Lester 0]

*cough* isn't it the same ?

my #%&$% englisch

It's not so easy to create invisible targets that would be indestructible (imho a better word   )

that the AI identify with the same quality.

Ok, my old (OFP) models forces the hitpoint away from the object, but they were also destructable by area damage.

(Also a lot of Users have wished that the targets destructable to have more firecontrol)

Increasing the armor is not a useful way,

this brings the AI to use much heavier ammo for shooting and stop shooting with smaller caliber.

[BadAss -Mapfact.net- 0]

Yeah, it might be a good idea to include invincible invisible targets in the next version as well. For some reasons you might need weak invisible targets that can be destroyed easily and for other reasons you might want to have something stronger.

[raedor 8]

Or add a script that automatically sets the damage to 0... (or replaces a dead target).

[sickboy 13]

Or add a script that automatically sets the damage to 0...

But put the armor/health of the objects very high anyway, incases with massive weaponary fired at the objects

[raedor 8]

Or add a script that automatically sets the damage to 0...

But put the armor/health of the objects very high anyway, incases with massive weaponary fired at the objects

If you set it to high values, AI won't attack it with normal guns... The AI checks the relation between bullet hit value and total armour of the target. If it realises that it needs too many bullets to kill it, it won't start shooting.

[sickboy 13]

If you set it to high values, AI won't attack it with normal guns... The AI checks the relation between bullet hit value and total armour of the target. If it realises that it needs too many bullets to kill it, it won't start shooting.

Ah Thanks

[deanosbeano 0]

for indestructable you can add

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">destrType = "Destructno";

in config

both kinds are good , because with invinsible they shoot until ammo runs out o you have to delete them first .

with this kind of destruct tho it will make any hit addeventhandlers less stable .incase it apllies here.

[Lester 0]

for indestructable you can add

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">destrType = "Destructno";

in config

both kinds are good , because with invinsible they shoot until ammo runs out o you have to delete them first .

with this kind of destruct tho it will make any hit addeventhandlers less stable .incase it apllies here.

Ähm ... afaik ... the "destructno" (in OFP) only shows no optical destruction,

but the Model are normal damaged / destroyed and the AI stops firing.  

On a invisible target this should be bring no Effect.

The only way i see to 'protect' the lower armored targets from damage is a 'createanotherobject'-funktion.

But this should be script only and have no fixed binding at all targets.  

[KeyCat 131]

Just to add my 0.20 SEK I also think having indestructible versions of the invisible targets as would be usefull.

Sorry if jumping ahead but also wonder if you plan to port all the objects available in MAP_MilObj-Pack.pbo to ArmA (I understand you need the editing tools first)?

/KC

[deanosbeano 0]

Quote[/b] ]Ähm ... afaik ... the "destructno" (in OFP) only shows no optical destruction,

but the Model are normal damaged / destroyed and the AI stops firing

altho moot because you require it not binded .

for the record and to undo any confusion

adding

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">destrType = "Destructno";

will make the target indestructable

as seen here (availabe 5 mins after post time)

[messiahua 0]

Sometimes I see this error:

This error appears randomly in demo missions. Don't know what to do...

Edit:

Maybe thats because of the game version. I'm playing 1.02.

[Lester 0]

Sorry, but i can't reproduce this error and no one else have reported that to us.

Maybe an error from an other addon/modification ?

[BadAss -Mapfact.net- 0]

Can you please describe what you did when the error message occured?

The game version shouldn't be a problem. That's the exact same version we used to develop this one.

Please check your addons and modfolders. Then start your ArmA only with one addon at the time and see what happens. This way it should be possible to identify the problem. Please let us know about your findings so we can make sure to fix possible problems in the misc.

[raedor 8]

This bug should be fixed now. Expect an updated version in the next days. Thanks for reporting.

[messiahua 0]

This bug should be fixed now. Expect an updated version in the next days. Thanks for reporting.

Glad, that it helped and thanks for upcoming update.

[BadAss -Mapfact.net- 0]

Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for reporting.

raedor has found the problem so we have a new and fixed version: MAP Misc, 1.02 ready for download for you.

[KJAM 0]

Damn I'm having a hell of a time trying to get those invisible targets to worK I have tried every target (named t1) so I can get the GBU Harrier to drop its bombs on them, using this dotarget t1 and this dofire t1 I have a funny feeling I'm not doing something right, any help please?

[raedor 8]

For now, try to create an object of type LaserTarget. Maybe you see the laser targets in later versions of the addon.

[KJAM 0]

Nevermind, Figured it out.

If you're having problems with the targets, make sure you haven't got a duplicate of the file in a mod target

[messiahua 0]

I've updated pbo and I still have that error with sections

It appears randomly...

I looked in .rpt file and here it is:

Quote[/b] ]Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgModels/default.sections'.

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Strange...

[Lester 0]

RPT Errors:

Sorry, but in my .rpt file are no such entrys ... imho it must be produced by another addon

Lasertargets:

There are allready lasertargets in there like since my first OFP Version of the Inv. Targets

... don't know why not working ... but maybe it could be due of

http://bugs.armed-assault.net/view.php?id=1951

[messiahua 0]

imho it must be produced by another addon

Yeah, I thought about that, maybe, because of Entry Tools by Al Simmons.... I'll check demo missions without it.