theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 If BIS is already putting in functional ships, such as carriers and we've already got patrol boards with fireable weapons, would it be ridiculous to envision heavy gunships, such as destroyers and subs packed with torpedos and tomahawks? Have I gone overboard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete 1 Posted January 30, 2002 i quess the carrier and what other boats there might be are just scenery that you can walk on at best. there is still the limitation that allows only one person fire the weapons, making a destroyer a mighty effective 2-person boat. would be cool tho, perhaps in ofp2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sith 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Indeed...unless BIS comes up with an easy way to overcome the one gunner limit, I dont really think we should expect anything like that. And besides that, there's still the problem of viewingdistance and weapon control when operating Tomahawks and other large sea-land weapons. Throw Avon the life raft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt bastard 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Yup, Bismark would be nice. WW2 ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Something like this is a good idea It would be great for launching harriers and choppers but how would they go about putting soldiers on to it. Would it have to be scenery? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt bastard 0 Posted January 30, 2002 See this in OFP would rock the world!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Something like this is a good idea<span id='postcolor'> Looks very similar to the useless LSTs already in OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Thats the HMS invincible. This is a crappy LST: In OFP its good for target practice by aircraft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">See this in OFP would rock the world!!! <span id='postcolor'> heh....dunno....something like this in MP would make today's base rapers look like amateurs. Might as well make the SCUDS aimable & give e'm a nuclear warhead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 30 2002,14:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">heh....dunno....something like this in MP would make today's base rapers look like amateurs. Might as well make the SCUDS aimable & give e'm a nuclear warhead<span id='postcolor'> Not at all. OFP's terrain maps are so relatively small that the battleship salvos would fly over the island. You would just have to go prone in time to avoid being decapitated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted January 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Jan. 30 2002,14:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OFP's terrain maps are so relatively small that the battleship salvos would fly over the island. You would just have to go prone in time to avoid being decapitated. Â Â Â <span id='postcolor'> I'm sure I saw something like this in Duck Soup or in a 3 stooges episode. My memory's failing me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt bastard 0 Posted January 30, 2002 Or if you have alot of enemy infantry on the beach you can drive near them and toast them with the fire it produces. Is that a 50-70m of fire? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Not at all. OFP's terrain maps are so relatively small that the battleship salvos would fly over the island. You would just have to go prone in time to avoid being decapitated. <span id='postcolor'> It would work because in real life they can alternate the size of the charges that make the grenade to fly. Just like the artillery.(The haubits I did my military duty used charges all from about 1Kg to 12Kg.) So it wouldn't be too unrealistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted January 31, 2002 To have battle ships in OFP, the maps would have to be much bigger. And there's not only the one-weapon-fire problem. You'd also need engine-support for walking about the deck of a moving ship properly. While not doable in OFP1, this has certainly been seen in games before, so it could be done for OFP2. What I'd think would kick ass, is small gunboats, with a small cannon - equal to tank cannons in size and power. Then life rafts, ability to swim and use scooba gear! Yeah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chan 1 Posted January 31, 2002 With that, add submarine warfare to OFP2. Imagine dropping depth charges on submarines, like that excellent movie "Das Boot"! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted January 31, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Jan. 30 2002,13:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OFP's terrain maps are so relatively small that the battleship salvos would fly over the island. You would just have to go prone in time to avoid being decapitated. Â Â Â <span id='postcolor'> I still don't trust anything that a group of soldiers can't take out with LAWs or RPG's . Then again, if BIS can overcome that 1 gunner hump, & we can have some units with larger crews such as battleships (not necessarily realisticly larger!!)....that might be worthwhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted January 31, 2002 What about somthing like the patrol boat from df2 it had one gun and could alos carry passangers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted January 31, 2002 I've been doing some testing with the LST. As far as I can conclude, the ONLY vehicle in the game, that can crash the LST without rearming, is the Mi17 and it takes almost 150 rockets! The A10, M1A1, and Hind all had to RTB! Imagine how hard it would be to take out a huge battleship. It would turn the owner into God - a phenomena that has ruined many games. One great thing about the LST is it's highly accurate physics-model, LOL! ----------------- In case you should be in doubt, this LST started out in the water ----------------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder 0 Posted January 31, 2002 How about just a MK 5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted January 31, 2002 Why not add those speed boats they had in miami vice. Then we could do "Malden Vice" with officer David Armstrong. Mb Don Johnson could be found willing to do the voice overs. We could take down brothels with a massed armour attack preceded by a airstrike by 12 a-10. And after the armour attack helo-drop a few sqauds in under cover of apaches to arrest the remaining perps Then Officer David Armstrong could have a romance with one of the perps and then we could sell it to HBO or what ever and all become millionaires. WHO'S WITH ME!?!??!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 31, 2002 LOL I'm with ya, I used to love Miami Vice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted January 31, 2002 Since OFP engine does not allow under-water scenery, if that becomes possible in OFP2, then we could have scuba gears and mini-subs. I'm totally for bridges and scuba gears, but as people pointed out, anyone with naval firepower will win the game so easily, and it would screw up the game for the rest. My suggestion is that the carrier have some sort of limited power of defense such as TOWs and canons like M2 or Vulcan, but limit it so that even getting close to shore would not give them tremendous advantage over other ground/air units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shabadu 0 Posted January 31, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WKK Gimbal @ Jan. 31 2002,04:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">To have battle ships in OFP, the maps would have to be much bigger. And there's not only the one-weapon-fire problem. You'd also need engine-support for walking about the deck of a moving ship properly. While not doable in OFP1, this has certainly been seen in games before, so it could be done for OFP2. What I'd think would kick ass, is small gunboats, with a small cannon - equal to tank cannons in size and power. Then life rafts, ability to swim and use scooba gear! Yeah!<span id='postcolor'> check ofp editing center, I got some cool boats. Get the one called ach assault ship. Enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted February 1, 2002 There is precedent for BIS ignoring crewmen on vehicles; The missing loaders on the M1A1 and M60 tanks. Basically, there would only be one weapons control officer, one helmsman, and one captain on a ship when it boils down to it anyway. besides, How many people would want to hump ammo through the bowels of the ship, or swab decks? 1 Broadside (9x16 inch guns) = 1 weapon, or however many 5 inch guns the New Jersey class packs, not to mention cruise missiles. The rest of the ships compliment could be considered as "passengers" Academic though, the maps are still too small. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted February 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WKK Gimbal @ Jan. 30 2002,09:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've been doing some testing with the LST. As far as I can conclude, the ONLY vehicle in the game, that can crash the LST without rearming, is the Mi17 and it takes almost 150 rockets! The A10, M1A1, and Hind all had to RTB!<span id='postcolor'> Considering the success the Argentinians had in the Falklands with simple 500lb iron bombs, a single GBU should be enough to ruin an LST's day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandman 0 Posted February 1, 2002 The Navy refers to the LST as Large Slow Target. If we cant have decent artillery on land, why should we have it at sea? Swimming would be cool tho... Wars are won on the ground, not at sea!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
