SWAT Units v1.1s

[Rommel 2]

Alright its SWAT v1.1 not 1.1s.

Also I chose to use standard BIS M4 so that anyone can download it without any addon dependencies etc; I do not know where *pops-pl* and *jacek* got the textures, I found them in the pack. Regarding the SWAT Truck it should be out soon, but the SWAT van will be along way away, or it could be soon, depending which way O2 favours.

[stgn 39]

from this site AR15.com Ammo Oracle

And it is not only this site who says it you will finde info on this meany places.

P90 ha no good gun the small round can penetrade but the wounding capability is not good enough also the mag. has some issues, thats what I hear enyway. looks cool though and its small.

STGN

Eh, the only issue with the P90's mag is that it holds more and doesn't jutt out of the weapon? Besides the P90 was ment to replace the MP5 and other 9mm SMGs, not the 5.56 big boys...

no if I remmember correct, the gun does not perform very good in dusty/sand conditions, I think its was because of the mag and the rotating. -I unfortunetly can't remmber where I read it

STGN

[Jimboob 0]

They look awesome, i might have to use these for a SWAT mission, just need some terrorists now..

[Pappy Boyington 0]

They look awesome, i might have to use these for a SWAT mission, just need some terrorists now..

*|cough|* WYW_OPFOR

[panzergrenadier3 38]

There were some colors more in R6. Would they follow for this very nice addon? I mean urban2 (black-white-orange), sand, green, grey and the both desert colors?

And I think they need all skimascs. And maybee you can do the light version (without helmets, only skimascs).

[Jimboob 0]

They look awesome, i might have to use these for a SWAT mission, just need some terrorists now..

*|cough|* WYW_OPFOR

Knew that.. cheers

[Hornet85 0]

is it posible to make shilds for the SWAT to hide behind?

[Sepe 1]

Yeah, and I want that Sansei SG-3 in OFP too!

I think the best way to make those shields would be a vehicle, where the gunner and the driver are the same unit (like in PC's horses). Then you could "get in" the shield and shoot with a pistol from behind it. Of course, the others could use the cover provided by the shield too, like in real world.

[miles teg 1]

Yeah I agree. A "vehicle" class shield would be very cool. The only difficulty however would be the custom animations required. You'd have to make the person into a turret so it would be a little odd and his feet would be the wheels.

You could also attach the shield using an attachment script but it would probably act rather wierd when you went into different positions. Although..hmm... now that I think about it... didn't FDF or CSLA make some police with riot shields..or maybe they just had batons... I don't remember.

Anyways, maybe Philcommando or someone might try messing around with riot shields.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Sepe 1]

Yeah, philcommando is the right man when you want to wreck another engine limitation.

FDF has just batons, but G8 Urban War released a riot police with baton and shield ages ago... Shame the AI doesn't use it, but I don't think a vehicle class shield would be AI friendly either. Or well, any CQB unit ain't.

[@cero 0]

I wish Lobo Team let us use their units from the H&K pack to do something to complement this.

About ammunitions and so on, you guys are arguing about ballistics and weapons, what should SWAT units use as weapons, and so on, but I also remind you lot that we talking about Operation Flashpoint, and that SWAT units are going to be very limited for armor, ammunition and AI movement in FIBUA.

I find that the best answer for ballistics in OFP is the strait forward one, because bullets won't go through walls, objects, or vehicles, so a 5'56 and a 9mm won't have anything to do if the target is hiding behind something solid, so we should just concentrate on direct damage to the unit.

%'56 is a light ammunition, pointed, and it can be very lethal at medium ranges due to the fact that the bullet will behave very different on a short range and on a long range.

On a short range will probably over shot a target, meaning that it may go in and out kipping a very similar trajectory before and after the projectile penetrate human tissue.

This is due to the small size and high velocity.

On a medium range, 200 to 300 yards, the bullet will still have a flat trajectory and high velocity due to the light weight of the ammunition, but once the bullet enters human tissue it will change its trajectory, creating more damage than on a short distance. Some times the trajectory can vary up to 90 degrees, inflicting a lot of damage to different human organs.

%'56 at long ranges can have very poor performance. It do have a flatter flight path than a 7'62, and it can conserve more speed at flight than a 7'62, but the 5'56 loose a lot of power at long ranges once it penetrate a human body, maybe causing a target to be injured instead of neutralized.

9mm is another story, due to the shape of the bullet, it will have a very short trajectory compared to a pointed kind of ammunition, but the energy released into human tissue at short ranges are massive in comparison to pointed projectiles.

9mm have a big range of materials and modifications to the projectiles; hollow point is very efficient at close ranges.

I should also point that the reason why some forces around the world are changing some of their 9mm arms to 5'56 is because of different approaches and fighting techniques used by police and CT forces.

About GEOS and Guardia Civil, their weaponry needed of an update for a long time, and I think this is just a way for them to update their arsenal and maintain compatibility with other Spanish forces, but I haven't seen them for a long time because I moved to the UK 10 years ago, but there and then the Guardia Civil was using CETME, Llama and Zeta, I don't know about the GEOS though, they been allways a bit in the Shadows like the British SAS.

Regards.

@CERO.

[stgn 39]

The 5.56 is most dangours close up as it starts spinning forward and fragments more but the spinning first happens after a couple of cm's penetration so if you shoot ex. a skinny man the bullet might first start spinning after the round has left the body.

The 5.56 needs atleast 2700 fps to fragment properly and that is why the round is more likely to wound than too kill at long ranges.

STGN

[miles teg 1]

@cero, the HK pack isn't really LoBo's. That's Vipersheart's baby. You'd have to ask him about using it, but I'm sure he'd be ok with it as long as you gave him proper credit.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[MontyVCB 0]

it would need alot of work tho, those models are reallly old

[Rommel 2]

Ah, anychance of a show on OFP.info?

[USSRsniper 0]

SWAT addon is great.. but OFP is not good in battles inside the houses.

[Rommel 2]

lol yep. Its a shame. Novajev is great for these addons though, the ai seems to like running around on the buildings very much.

Many a times have I seen by them in formation running into buildings and shooting out of windows on that map. Its very cool.

[MINIGUN 0]

do you remember jacek from readme its me no one ask me for permission swat van was included in pbo but not finished all textures was included in pbo you can check the pops pbo there is everything that guy dont do anything only new config this is my work!! And noone ask me for permission

[pops-pl 0]

do you remember jacek from readme its me no one ask me for permission swat van was included in pbo but not finished all textures was included in pbo you can check the pops pbo there is everything that guy dont do anything only new config this is my work!! And noone ask me for permission

A o kominiarce zapomniales?

[Rommel 2]

If you read

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Special thanks to

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Jacek

Pops-pl

CREDITS

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- Pops-pl & Jacek for Textures, Unit Models.

- Rommel for Config.

I also asked POPs-pl cause he was the only one I found on the forums.

I'm only finishing the SWAT truck and creating a SWAT van. I dont know what else I can say.

[MINIGUN 0]

and what you do when i said i dont give permisiion to you models was made by my pops only added balaclava and what you will do do you rewleased this this is stealing my work

[Rommel 2]

and what you do when i said i dont give permisiion to you models was made by my pops only added balaclava and what you will do do you rewleased this this is stealing my work

I'm not quite sure what you mean. But if you had of said no if I had known "MINIGUN" was you I would'nt of released them. There really isnt much more I can do mate.

Please only post comments/queries.

[MINIGUN 0]

ok You released this but i dont give you permission to finish swat van if you want thief opinion that ok but i think i can edid BAS Blackhawks and publicate them without BAS permission i think everyone was angry for me so dont play with me and leave my models

[Rommel 2]

Ok if you feel that way fine I wont release your SWAT Truck. But I am making my own SWAT Van and that has nothing to do with you. Now please let this be the end to this matter.

[panzergrenadier3 38]

Back on topic...

Now, what's about the other Rainbow Six uniform camos? Would there be any?