human rights for the al-queda terrorists

[foxer 0]

Satchel,

Do you know why they increased military budget ? Do you know like half of america soldiers are on welfare,They are going get a pay raise,Which is goood.

[Pete 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OBiJuan @ Jan. 16 2002,21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes there is a reason to hate, but not a justified one....<span id='postcolor'>

That's fine, Pete.  But if it's unjustified, what purpose would there be to knowing the reason?  Does it matter if it's not a justified one?<span id='postcolor'>

mmmm...thats what i get for posting when dead tired heheh

well, about the 9-11 case, its something not done by a gang of criminals for profit, but more for political reasons backed by a religious fanatism.

if you manage to find the reason (in this case very simple) you can remove that reason, solve the problem and your more likely to be safe in the future.

the criminals who has done the crime needs to be punished, the ones who have not yet committed a crime you can do little against, you cant inprison them..but you can do things to prevent them from becoming terrorists, remove the reason for there cause...

pretty much the same as kids joining up in gangs, the gangs lead them into bigger crimes......find out why they join gangs (poverty) and fix that problem....it takes ages, but it works in the long term.

instead now we can only punish something that happens because we done nothing to stop it.

im tired and i go to bed now, i think i need to quit these arguments...they bore me to death

[Guest]

Pete - I agree with you 100%. I also agree with the tired part. I'm tired of this debating too. Round and round, 175 posts later, it's still the same thing.

Satchel - I am also tired of going around and round with you. Let's just stop ok?

I think everyone here agrees on the fundamentals - punish bad people.

The topic about human rights for al-queda: They don't deserve it, some say, but they will get it, because the US doesn't torture it's detainees or pows.

Can we now get some sleep?

[Satchel 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Satchel,

Do you know why they increased military budget ? Do you know like half of america soldiers are on welfare,They are going get a pay raise,Which is goood.<span id='postcolor'>

No question it is good for those serving, i too like my wallet being filled .

But on the other hand what you give to one side, you´ll have to take from the other, that could need it even more desperately. In the end improving politics and social systems would turn out more economical than having to invest more and more money into force fighting the results (symptoms) of misconceptions and unbalances (illness), that could have been prevented the other way.

[nordin dk 0]

Violence begets violence

Broaden your horizon, maybe even sit down and watch one of the soon-to-be-live-broadcasted executions and see if it makes you feel good.

If someone raped my 3 month old child to death, no I wouldn't want him to die, because I don't believe that will solve any of the problems leading to his killing my child, or the problems arising after that. I would not bring back my child, it would only spread more sorrow and pain. To me and to the perp's family. Closure comes from living your life, not from ending someone elses.

DP does not stop crime from occuring. And the US is the best example of all.

I fear the worst...

[Guest]

perhaps a country that parades around declaring itself a champion of freedom and justice (one of the core principals of which is that you are innocent until proven otherwise) should attempt to apply its ideals to other people as well. But if they had been doing that, we probably wouldn't be in this mess.

[Guest]

"about the terrorists that are still free...killing them all wont prevent the rise from future terrorists, for me it doesnt matter much what happens to them..the main important thing is to prevent a new terrorstrike, and to do that us. foreign policy needs to change radically."

True, killing all terrorists won't prevent new people becoming terrorists and that's why I think that we should exterminate all ragheads. They revenge if they exist so lets make them exist no longer! So you are completely right about changing US's foreign policy, it is too humanitarian.

I think that western people are quite masocists, especially peacenicks. We should forget humanitarian when dealing with enemies. Sometimes west will lose to ragheads if we are humanitarian. Sometimes they might become also humanitarian but then we have probably lost. That's why I think that we should abandon ALL moral when it's about non-western people and start to think that if suffering in poor countries benefits us, it is good thing.

People say that imperialism was bad thing. I think that it was good thing because it has kept other (non-west) countries weak and increased our power and wellfare and western people should realize and accept it. However, it might be good to try to appear as good guys but act different if it benefits us.

[Pete 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Joku @ Jan. 18 2002,16:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"about the terrorists that are still free...killing them all wont prevent the rise from future terrorists, for me it doesnt matter much what happens to them..the main important thing is to prevent a new terrorstrike, and to do that us. foreign policy needs to change radically."

True, killing all terrorists won't prevent new people becoming terrorists and that's why I think that we should exterminate all ragheads. They revenge if they exist so lets make them exist no longer! So you are completely right about changing US's foreign policy, it is too humanitarian.

I think that western people are quite masocists, especially peacenicks. We should forget humanitarian when dealing with enemies. Sometimes west will lose to ragheads if we are humanitarian. Sometimes they might become also humanitarian but then we have probably lost. That's why I think that we should abandon ALL moral when it's about non-western people and start to think that if suffering in poor countries benefits us, it is good thing.

People say that imperialism was bad thing. I think that it was good thing because it has kept other (non-west) countries weak and increased our power and wellfare and  western people should realize and accept it. However, it might be good to try to appear as good guys but act different if it benefits us.<span id='postcolor'>

niin, että sä löysit takaisin tänne?

joku = someone.

placebo, lock the thread and/or ban joku (he is someone).

[Guest]

"niin, että sä löysit takaisin tänne?"

Mistäs arvasit?

[Wobble 1]

joku weiß, daß wenig, wenn irgendwelche über alles und ich glauben, er Biene hat, Geschlecht mit meiner Katze zu haben. Er doesent Notwendigkeit, hier zu sein.

[Hilandor 1]

well indeed this has to be the most replied too thread i ever seen =]]

[caz 0]

its took on a life of its own - lol

i just wanted to express my anger at all these goody goody people complianing that known terrorusts were getting it a bit rough when they deserve nothing at all

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pete @ Jan. 18 2002,15:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">placebo, lock the thread and/or ban joku (he is someone).<span id='postcolor'>

Indeed he is, thank you for that

[Pete 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Jan. 18 2002,20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">placebo, lock the thread and/or ban joku (he is someone).<span id='postcolor'>

Indeed he is, thank you for that <span id='postcolor'>

it didnt take a mastermind to figure out heheheh

"joku" MEANS "someone"....but in finnish

and then the typical "nuke raghead" attitude heheh

@Hilandor....the wtc thread was nearly 27 pages, army-stupidity thread even more.....and the trivia thread....cereal.

here, the threads becomes LARGE!!

[Wobble 1]

I think Spetznaz is back too under a different name... I be some of you know who I mean too..

[abelcruz 0]

BTw my opinion is that terrorist shoul be treated as such and no mercy should be giving.

Also if anyone which has their posting permissions removed wants to post again mail me to x-ander@hastajuego.com

I will tell you how to log in with a new name and post what you want.

[abelcruz 0]

And this is for Placebo:

Try banning me again...and you will loose your time i´ll starting posting again and again and again.......

[Wobble 1]

yes, and then Placebo will constact yer ISP and your IP block will be banned.

[Hilandor 1]

Indeed and its just as easy to continue banning you as well in the meantime

[Wreck-It 0]

Human rights do not apply to animals.

[Wobble 1]

yes.. animals belong

IN MY BELLY!!!

[Wobble 1]

show that pic bitch!!!!!!