Bushranger BETA release

[Fragster 0]

Awsome. Can't wait for more releases! Are you going to release the huey with winch soon(ish)?

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

Everything but forgotten, thanks for asking Fragster.  

Have been very busy with Iroquois, other projects and some real life dramas. (least of which was a PC blow out)

Hoping very soon to have final on Iroquois.

That's good news! (well most of it is at least).

I love the pack and I'm looking forward to any updates.

[GoOB 0]

Any chance of altering the weapon values for the next release? The way the minigun bullets / 4x M60 bullets explod on impact is pretty unattractive.

But besides the above nitpick, great work man! I love flying these choppers, the sound is spot on! And the details on them are great! I especially like the aussie versions, would love to see more Australian nam era units in OFP

[dvm 0]

@ CSJ

Could you please use Arial font (insteed of Arial Narrow) on tail of your choppers for "US Army" sign?

I think it'll be more realistic.

[cozza 24]

Any chance of altering the weapon values for the next release? The way the minigun bullets / 4x M60 bullets explod on impact is pretty unattractive.

But besides the above nitpick, great work man! I love flying these choppers, the sound is spot on! And the details on them are great! I especially like the aussie versions, would love to see more Australian nam era units in OFP

Yeah I was thinking of working on some but my crappy O2 skills hit me in the head. I got some good pics of Aussie SAS and Aussie diggers in vietnam from the Australian War memorial in Canbera. And one of the huge m113. You never know how big they are till you stand next to it.

[csj 0]

As stated earlier.

Quote[/b] ]The explosive bullets on M134 have gone, except on the Bushranger model with door gunner. I have to use rockets to simulate the fwd guns on this model and I (plus everyone I have spoken to re this) can not find a way to remove the blast effect.

I can remove fwd guns of the Bushranger model altogether and just have a door gunner or remove the whole Bushranger (door gunner) model just leaving the Bushranger with fwd gunner.

Personally I think the door gunner is a large part of Huey legend.

Fully exposed target for the enemy to hit, hot gun barrels peeling like bananas in front of their face, flash burns from rockets as they left the pods, bouncing off the outside of the huey held on by only a thin monkey strap when they lost their footing and exposed to the weather. Just to list a few hazards and that was a good day.  

I would have added them to all gunships except for the exploding bullet problem.

[Fragster 0]

I agree. A slick isn't a slick (or, a bushranger aint a bush ranger) without the great "door gunner"!

[-HC-Para 0]

Scud, please don't remove the door gunner or forward gunner Bushrangers, they both have their place and it leaves the option up to the mission builders.

In terms of what I think of door gunning in general, and Iroquois in particular - the smile on my face in this photo tells all. I am told that smile lasted for days!

[-HC-Lis 0]

Its true, but i think it lasted more like a week :P

[csj 0]

Quote[/b] ]I am told that smile lasted for days!

and with good reason    but the rig you're n starts with A and not R     close enough.

Not changing anything on Bushrangers.

[Gedis 0]

wtf? i wonder what's done with engine's air intake and exhaust...

seems that air intake is covered with anti dust or something filter, and exhaust is covered... maybe with anti-strela metal plates...

what country huey this is? Australian(judging from camo paint) or something different?

by the way, i feel sorry for you, in vietnam war, helicopter gunner's job was most dangerous job in that time... but, photo still looks awesome! ;)

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

by the way, i feel sorry for you, in vietnam war, helicopter gunner's job was most dangerous job in that time... but, photo still looks awesome! ;)

that's why those guys had 'chickenplates' (metal bodyarmor to protect the chest). There are photos of a CH-34 were you see a guy crying in the door with two other guys lying bleeding on the floor. Flightcrews had a hell of a job, but they saved many, many lives.

[csj 0]

small update

I have put together a small pack of what I call C'n'B Hueys

(Crash and Burn) well not so much burn coz when they burn there wasn't a lot left of them.

Anyway, 2 different wrecks of each UH-1 model B,C,D and H.

Also tried to cover most breeds as in USA, Aus, Vnaf and unmarked.

Will be seperate to Iroquois Pack but will need it for textures.

[Fragster 0]

Awsome! I was actually going to ask if you were making crashed versions...

[Gedis 0]

CSJ, when i sent you those pdfs, you are thinking of making Uh-1E and F versions? Besides, i downloaded, video of flying bundeswer's uh-1d ;)

I realy hope to see Uh-1P in your new pack...

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

OMG! That looks awewsome. Crashed models like that are GREAT for missions. They add a lot. Rescue missions for a crashed air-crew ect ect. Keep it up!

[-HUNTER- 1]

are you also adding smoke and fire to the crashed models? And also many times when such a thing happens they go in afterwards and blow up the helo with a bomb or missile. Could you also make a model which is really busted, broken in half, loose parts all over the place half plane is burned out.. As if it has been blown up to keep it out of enemy hands! ?

[csj 0]

re smoke:

9 times out of 10 the only thing left after a fire was the tail boom or part of. The fuselage has a high magnesium content.

I have never seen a half burnt Iroquois unless just an electrical fire in cockpit or cab that was quickly extinguished.

I believe a lot Hueys that did not burn after a crash were retrieved during the war but if that was not possible then they prolly would have toasted them.

The C'n'B wrecks I constructed to be air lifted away without

looking too daggy.

I did concider adding smoke.sqs but decided not to for reasons above but there are heaps of good smoke scripts available for mission editors to use or just place a camp fire 1/2 to 1 meter under ground beneath the wreck (daytime only or the ground will glow at night).

re other models:

not at this stage with main Iroquois pack.

Maybe with Seawolf pack. Visually there is not a lot of differnce with the P or the M (the list goes on). Main obvious diff with the P is the small raised section over c/pit and the colour generally used on them, and change of colour means complete new p3d file.

B and C models were easy to run off same model, just different cowling, uh and vh antenna and the C model fuel caps being portside whislt all other hueys are starboard.

Likewise D to H, besides the antenna the main visual difference is that the D sat near level and the H sagged in the rear (not worth a different model).

I think I have covered a fair range atm with this pack as I said before maybe 'P' in the SW pack.

[Gedis 0]

well at least maybe...

i have downloaded more pdfs and movies, also vietnam footage, when all about huey will be downloaded again i will give it to you...

besides, you read about huey engines?

so do some real thing, change engine values or something, because uh-1b engine is not so powerful as uh-1c late model engine...

[csj 0]

Quote[/b] ]so do some real thing, change engine values or something, because uh-1b engine is not so powerful as uh-1c late model engine...

They are different.. well the maxspeed settings are.

I am not sure if they were in origional release but they are now.

I will set up a AI drag race on desert island and see if it makes a difference in game. Let you know the results..

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3 out of 3 Charlie Model won by 60 to 80 meters over 3 clicks

So I will reduce B mod a bit more.

[-HC-Para 0]

Crashed hueys are nice scud, keep up the good work!

[Gedis 0]

thats good, but did you noticed in one of pdf about huey, uh-1b's synchronized elevators are smaller than uh-1c/d/h/...

well, just look at the details... maybe you will see something else not mentioned.

[csj 0]

Sorry Gedis, had my P's and Q's mixed up or should say P's and L's.

Anyway the reference to the P model is for free aim minigun mount?

If so I will add to Seawolf pack. (If I remember  )

[Gedis 0]

well, 20th SOS used uh-1f as a slick and uh-1p as a gunship...

20th SOS UH-1F

i scaned this rear thing from magazine (part1)which i have, translated from russian language, it's name should be "Vietnam: Combat Usage of Helicopters", two parts... ;)

as from photos, i remember that i saw one, that 20th SOS F hueys were armed with 7,62mm mini-guns and P hueys armed also with two rocket launcher pods.

"The USAF converted around 20 UH-1Fs to UH-1P standart for classified psychological warfare tasks in Vietnam"

this phrase is mentioned in "Osperey New Vanguard Series" magazine, which i already gave to you, CSJ, besides, there also is other 20th SOS UH-1F's camo scheme...

[csj 0]

Operational history

At the outbreak of the Vietnam War, the 20th and 21st Special Operations Squadrons were deployed there equipped with the Bell UH-1F, becoming known as the "Green Hornets". At the beginning they played transport and communications roles, but by late 1960s, when the CIA discovered that the Viet Cong was infiltrating South Vietnam through Cambodia and Laos, the Green Hornets started to fly secret missions to infiltrate and extract agents and commandos in the "Communist sanctuaries" of Cambodia and Laos. These were risky missions since the UH-1F didn't have night equipment and or any kind of weather radar.

UH-1P

Around 1969 a number of UH-1Fs were modified for a still-classified psychological warfare role and redesignated UH-1P. The "P" version was the only armed version of the UH-1F, carrying machine guns and rocket launchers. Even unarmed, they can be distinguised from standard UH-1Fs by their two UHF antennas (the F carried only one)

Markings

The UH-1Fs in Vietnam were painted in 4 tone-camouflage that consisted in dark and medium green and dark tan on the upper surfaces and light gray was used under the lower surface. No national insignia were carried, only a serial number on the tail and a black hornet on the middle of the tail boom.

Yes they are an interest group.

If you want exact F/P model - I know the details.

Now plz understand that models are not mass produced, they are very time consuming something which I do not have alot spare. All my models are 99% me some scripting is surplied which is great. I do not have a production team of artist etc working for me.

I can convert exist Huey to suit this but would be a later on, not just at this moment.

Another thing is I do not do camo paint jobs.