Shalashaska 0 Posted September 26, 2004 I am not the most wise and insightful of combat and military actions, but wouldnt this be terribly unwise? Nothing to rest against you, the recoil must be tremendous...and folding stocks were designed to lessen weight and manuverability. So why arent they even used? Its not insulting FDF. Great mod, only problem is when I yell at the finns for not using the folded stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shalashaska 0 Posted September 26, 2004 Lol. I figured as much. :P That I was incoherent. What I mean is for a weapon such as the Rk 62 *With folding stock* used by Paratroopers and other units in the FDF mod, they have the stock folded? I assume the high recoil was designed to work like H.D. Weapons do, but I almost laughed at how much there was using the RK 62 that had the stock folded. I dont know...nitpicking and bitching I guess, it just seems odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commando9903 0 Posted September 26, 2004 my guess would be thats it was to add a little variation too the weapons carried. I can't remember the particular troops armed with the folded version, but maybe the guys carrying it were guys that needed a more compact weapon or were more likely to be on patrol than in firefights. but probably just to add some variation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartti 1 Posted September 27, 2004 my guess would be thats it was to add a little variation too the weapons carried Exactly. Just to get some feeling of folding stock version of RK 62. Otherwise it would just look the same as ordinary RK 62. No-one is assuming that those would be used folded in real life during fire fight... Edit: Damn typos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gandalf the white 0 Posted September 29, 2004 can't you change the textures when the rifle is on the back? i believe there was also a M72 LAW that appeared shorter when on your back... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted September 30, 2004 Maybe because when paratroopers jump, they carry it folded, and when they hit the ground they don't always have the time to position the stock, the principal dates back to WW2 with the M1 Carbine. Also in vehicles it can be easier to get out when the stock is folded (less likely to get stuck). It's just more realistic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 1, 2004 This belongs in the FDF mod thread, however as you'll probably all get lost if I merged it into there for now I'll just move it to A&M:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKSubmariner 0 Posted October 1, 2004 *Nod's and takes a sip of his pint* Of course, the folding stock gives you more manuverability in a CQB too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{ppt}jackster2004 0 Posted October 1, 2004 its for para's when landing or even mechanized infantry, its simply for more room in apc's and not getting a but of a gun hittin into you when land from a parachute and do the plf rolly thingy. the m1 carbine in ww2 has a para version with folding stock and the recoil is not that bad as a standard m1 carbine trust me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted October 1, 2004 its for para's when landing or even mechanized infantry, its simply for more room in apc's and not getting a but of a gun hittin into you when land from a parachute and do the plf rolly thingy. the m1 carbine in ww2 has a para version with folding stock and the recoil is not that bad as a standard m1 carbine trust me Did I just have a flashback? Quote[/b] ]Maybe because when paratroopers jump, they carry it folded, and when they hit the ground they don't always have the time to position the stock, the principal dates back to WW2 with the M1 Carbine.Also in vehicles it can be easier to get out when the stock is folded (less likely to get stuck). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gandalf the white 0 Posted October 3, 2004 its for para's when landing or even mechanized infantry, its simply for more room in apc's and not getting a but of a gun hittin into you when land from a parachute and do the plf rolly thingy. the m1 carbine in ww2 has a para version with folding stock and the recoil is not that bad as a standard m1 carbine trust me Did I just have a flashback? Quote[/b] ]Maybe because when paratroopers jump, they carry it folded, and when they hit the ground they don't always have the time to position the stock, the principal dates back to WW2 with the M1 Carbine.Also in vehicles it can be easier to get out when the stock is folded (less likely to get stuck). just your imagination i am sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{ppt}jackster2004 0 Posted October 3, 2004 No I gotta fire a whole load of ww2 era weapons somewhere cant remember where somewhere, it was in france. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@cero 0 Posted October 3, 2004 If you guys noticed, special forces use them very often, the main two reasons are: -CQB, fighting in small areas, rooms and all that, most of the times they will have a tactical beam attached to it to fire in the dark or in areas full of smoke or other gasseous that restrict vissivility. The tactical beam( torch) its ceroed like the sights or a laser, so you know that the area the beem is iluminating its going to be covered by the amunition of the weapon, its not just to be able to see, its allso a reference on fast reaction aiming and firing, so the but stock will be folded for easy of moviment in close cuarters. -Lightness, its very usual for special forces to carry more than an assault weapon, for example, carring a G3 with folded stock, plus an MP5, plus a hand gun, and even sometimes they carry a shotgun aswell, making this a huge amount of weaponrry and amunition to be carried at the same time, the folding stocks of skelleton type give some relief. I'm not tallking crap, or trying to look clever, I just happan to be a fan of SAS literacy and have readed alot of books about them; my mates things that I should read something ellse or one day I will star acting funny... I allso like to see things like that ingame, it gives you more variety and it looks very cool. About the folded LAW, I belive that there is one like that in the JAM 2 pack, I can't remember, but I think that I noticed when I was playing with one of the "modern American infantry" addon, and they use JAM. Regards. @CERO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBobcat 0 Posted October 4, 2004 This is even possible to script pretty easily in the game....having two weapons with two different models. An action menu option to fold/unfold stock. The script would also count the amount of mags using magazines and weapons commands (this way to let it mix with anything else, even addon magazines and shit). Magazines would be added first, then the new weapon (switching between the two different weapons). The weapon with the unfolded stock would have less recoil but have less manuverability (I've seen sniper rifles in ofp with really slow manuverability) and then the one folded stock would have the opposite. This would be WAY more realistic and also easy to do.... Thats just me and my constant ranting. If anyone wants to start on this kind of idea...message me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites