Heatseeker 0 Posted July 19, 2004 VDV are like are russian the Parachuters .. http://duty.mil.ru/dolgn/vdv/images/vdv_komandir_pdo.jpg They are like rangers .. with a lot of soldiers but they are special .. but no so special like the spetsnaz ... Why are they fighting eachother, looks serious... i can see bayonets , vodka .meh...crazy ruskies problably got bored or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Well, hell if they're drunk that might explain the blue blankets. It just doesn't make much sense to me to wear somthing so impractical. Even while training. You train as you fight, and fight as you train. And those berets look like big blue targets to me. Something tells me that the Chechens aren't very impressed, or intimidated. I wouldn't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted July 19, 2004 Well, hell if they're drunk that might explain the blue blankets. It just doesn't make much sense to me to wear somthing so impractical. Even while training. You train as you fight, and fight as you train. And those berets look like big blue targets to me. Something tells me that the Chechens aren't very impressed, or intimidated. I wouldn't be. u'd shit ur pants if u saw a fully trained VDVshik attack u, blue beret or not. hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Perhaps, if I wasn't armed to the teeth. But then, I'm an American, and you know there's millions of us who are certainly armed to the teeth. I think it would be in Mr. Blue Beret's best interests to find himself a helmet and a foxhole. Besides, he'd have much bigger worries, than me. Like whether he was going to survive the next Chechen attack, for instance. The VDV has been getting severely punished in that little conflict, and have taken hundreds of casulties. That must really suck considering they don't get paid very much. Morale can not be good at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sv5000 127 Posted July 19, 2004 Maybe they are just proud of their achievment to earn the right to wear a Blue beret? British para's - Red beret. Conventional forces always find it difficult fighting unconvential war - you yanks kicked so much arse in vietnam.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaskad 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Quote[/b] ]I think it would be in Mr. Blue Beret's best interests to find himself a helmet and a foxhole. And what if there's a whole squad of them? bye bye Mr. BadAss? Quote[/b] ]The VDV has been getting severely punished in that little conflict, and have taken hundreds of casulties. What about the thausands of terrorists that got KIAed by them ? like on the hill 776.0 ? Quote[/b] ]That must really suck considering they don't get paid very much. Morale can not be good at all. Why don't you visit a home base (located in Pskov) of the 76 gv. VDD, and ask them about their morale ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted July 20, 2004 really not everyone is in it for the money and you yanks and brits severlly underestimate the russian military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Well, obviously, it's not about the money. Not that it's important, but if they aren't in it for the money, then what are they in it for? What do they have to lose in Chechnya, except their lives? I suppose you're going to tell me they want to be there? Or is this about something else, like Afghanistan was. Right? Anyway.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Pretty blue berets, too. That will make a huge difference in combat, I'm sure. Silly, IMO. Â They dont use it on combat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 VDV are like are russian the Parachuters .. http://duty.mil.ru/dolgn/vdv/images/vdv_komandir_pdo.jpg They are like rangers .. with a lot of soldiers but they are special .. but no so special like the spetsnaz ... Why are they fighting eachother, looks serious... i can see bayonets  , vodka .meh...crazy ruskies problably got bored or something? What about This is an Demonstration??  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Perhaps, if I wasn't armed to the teeth. But then, I'm an American, and you know there's millions of us who are certainly armed to the teeth. I think it would be in Mr. Blue Beret's best interests to find himself a helmet and a foxhole. Besides, he'd have much bigger worries, than me. Like whether he was going to survive the next Chechen attack, for instance. The VDV has been getting severely punished in that little conflict, and have taken hundreds of casulties. That must really suck considering they don't get paid very much. Morale can not be good at all. Nice numbers you have.. show me your sources.. or you just think all this things that you are saying??? VDV are not regular units .. they dont do regular operations .. the Chechens know that .. and the rest of the world too .. even the militarys .. like when the russians (VDV) took the Pristina airport on Yuguslavia ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 really not everyone is in it for the money and you yanks and brits severlly underestimate the russian military. Americans love to do it... Like on the EUA/India exercise when the Indus Su-30MK (the arent even using the new MKI) kick the Americans F-15C ass... and they dont just know why haha ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Stryker 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Fangs that like saying americans got thier asses severlly kicked in vietnam, eveyone knows how many vietnamese where killed compared to US, the US killed so many ppl, mostly militants also, Checyna is no different, please grow up and repsec human life asshole. I dare you to go to ru forums and say that same shit, its so stupid its unbelievable. Go away. And you know what some ppl are not selfish like yourself, they want to serve thier country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 20, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/603064.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/603064.stm http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/01/10/russia.chechnya.01/ http://www.geocities.com/chechenistan/ruslosses.html Dude. What else can I say? I grieve for your losses. I can't blame you for being pissed off, I'd be angry too. I'd just like to know what I'm risking my life for. Better be a damn good reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norris 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Russian soldiers actually fight, whereas americans always duck for cover when the sh*t hits the fan and call their infamously accurate ( ) air support which wipes out an entire city block. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 20, 2004 If anyone has noticed, I've never once compared your apples, to our oranges. I wouldn't open that bag of worms. I also haven't flamed anyone. Keep it up. I'm keeping score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/603064.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/603064.stm http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/01/10/russia.chechnya.01/ http://www.geocities.com/chechenistan/ruslosses.html Dude. What else can I say? I grieve for your losses. I can't blame you for being pissed off, I'd be angry too. I'd just like to know what I'm risking my life for. Better be a damn good reason. http://www.geocities.com/chechenistan/ruslosses.html Great Source ................................................... This is what you have?? Do you want me to show you the americans KIAs/MIAs/Injurieds/Friendly Fire Kills in Iraq?? a plan country without mountains or florest to hide and ambush every meter?? ................................................... Give me a break... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Russian soldiers actually fight, whereas americans always duck for cover when the sh*t hits the fan and call their infamously accurate ( ) air support which wipes out an entire city block. huahuauh or kill some canadians?? or some northern alliance and his own special force troops?? hahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Sure, if you want. Make this personal if you want. Make this "us against you" if you need to. How dare I post the truth, eh? I'm such a bastard, for not understanding that it's all for the good of Mother Russia, right? But actually I don't have any need to argue this with you. Obviously, you have extremely important national interrests in Chechnya, and you're fighting for your lives. Good luck with that. What a waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sv5000 127 Posted July 20, 2004 And America is in Iraq for what reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Because the American people overwhelmingly wanted to remove Saddam from power. Last I heard he's in jail. Agree with that reasoning or not, that's the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 And America is in Iraq for what reason? For This Reason: DODGE Ram http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp....B114CE8 CHRYSLER Sebring Sedans http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp....B114CE8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Sure, if you want. Make this personal if you want. Make this "us against you" if you need to.How dare I post the truth, eh? I'm such a bastard, for not understanding that it's all for the good of Mother Russia, right? But actually I don't have any need to argue this with you. Obviously, you have extremely important national interrests in Chechnya, and you're fighting for your lives. Good luck with that. What a waste. Why personal? I'm not even Russian.. I just defend my point of view... and I will aways do.. the real true is much more than the true that you think... just open your mind and think about other possibilities... USA isnt the center of the World .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pogingwapo 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Hey Maxim are you Spanish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaximoPoder 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Hey Maxim are you Spanish? no Brazilian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
