pitufo 0 Posted June 19, 2004 Hey I just searched and all i found was a thread pleading for trackIR support in OPF2, but from what I've read all's we need is for BIS and NaturalPoint to collaborate on a DLL for OPF. So, says I, let us shout and be heard! Please BIS give us TrackIR enhanced support for Flashpoint!! I just got mine in the mail today and I've been playing with it in lock-on. Man, whoever doesn't have one ought to be going out and getting one! But I digress... Please BIS give us TrackIR enhanced mode for OPF!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pitufo 0 Posted June 19, 2004 trackIR is your dream come true. Â Check it out: www.trackir.com I think this will redirect you to another site but I can't remember the address. The company's name is NaturalPoint. EDIT:this is the website: http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRedBaron 0 Posted June 19, 2004 From what I see the camera follows the movement of your head so you can look around right? It looks cool but I doubt that BIS would do any work towards this since it seems that they have their hands full with ofp2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pitufo 0 Posted June 19, 2004 ya... well.... they keep giving us patches right??? As I said apparently all that needs to be done (forgive my ignorance pls) is for BIS and Naturalpoint to collaborate on a DLL. Whatever that is... It's not like this game is anywhere near being dead is it? I just think it's a good idea. A really good idea. So I can play OPF with my new TrackIR.... And so everyone else can too... And yes that's the thing you would be able to move your head INDEPENDANT of your mouse... In vehicles too. There's already applications that allow opf to work with trackir but not independantly of the mouse input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted June 19, 2004 Correct me if I am wrong. When u turn your head, it represents the movement of the mouse? What's the point of that? I want to look at the monitor, but I have to turn my head away from it. It's not genius it's stupid. What about the case I have to scratch my back or head? It would work if u had monitors all around u. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scŕth-Siorrai 0 Posted June 19, 2004 Correct me if I am wrong.When u turn your head, it represents the movement of the mouse? What's the point of that? I want to look at the monitor, but I have to turn my head away from it. It's not genius it's stupid. What about the case I have to scratch my back or head? It would work if u had monitors all around u. i think it's screen in front of your head,like virtual boy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted June 19, 2004 Correct me if I am wrong.When u turn your head, it represents the movement of the mouse? What's the point of that? I want to look at the monitor, but I have to turn my head away from it. It's not genius it's stupid. What about the case I have to scratch my back or head? It would work if u had monitors all around u. i think it's screen in front of your head,like virtual boy check out the web site. U move your head in order to move the picture. The track IR is a device on the monitor that tracks the movement of your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C4P741N 0 Posted June 19, 2004 I have to agree with Gordy here. As if I want to look at my monitor out of the corner of my eye. To me this is a stupid idea and a waste of research and development time/money. Just like the fridges/washing machines that connect to the internet. Cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quicksand 0 Posted June 19, 2004 Not exactly guys.The sensitivity is high so you have to move your head just a tad to look in another direction. Takes some time to get used to it but not quite worthless. I`ve seen other small features requested for Operation Flashpoint in a future patch and they all ended with Suma saying they are fully concentrating on OF2 right now so you will deffinetly have to wait for it if you really want TrackIR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 19, 2004 well if you have a AV goggles this thing would be quite cool under a lower sensitive, but it looks stupid to use it on monitors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Postduifje 0 Posted June 19, 2004 Sounds like nonesense to me. The whole idea is creating realism by letting the ingame character react to your movements. But this results either in your inability to watch the screen since you look a different direction, or a less sensitive way which totally eliminates the realism. That would leave it with no real purpose except 2 buttons or mousemovement less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mellis 0 Posted June 19, 2004 I think it would be nice if this were function could be used in OFP, because you actully can move the head in game, like when flying a chopper or airplane and want to look out fast and fast back while you stearing the vehicle this product would be really nice to used instead of a mouse.. For ex. look at this video how it works, and remember you do NOT need to move your head 180' to look around in the game, only small movements are used.. (Right click, save as) http://media.naturalpoint.com/video/games/np-lomac1_web.wmv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus-WD- 0 Posted June 19, 2004 ..And the reason why TrackIR would be excellent in OFP is that you could have freelook while flying a helicopter or a plane... that is you can look around while you're controlling the aircraft (or even a ground vehicle)) like this : video Of course this would be better with trackir or alike as this was done controlling the helo with the keyboard while freelooking with mouse as unfortunately for some weird reason if you move the joystick, mouse freelook is instantly deactivated (I would assume that if such a device as trackir is emulating the mouse this is a good reason why it would not work ... give back freelook while piloting with Joystick plz, even if i dont have trackIR) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted June 19, 2004 I think it is very stupid to ask for them to fix this for OFP1. This is not an important fix we need and I would be surprised if even 1% of the OFP community would use it. I think this thread is useless, wait for OFP2 instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pitufo 0 Posted June 19, 2004 You have to try it, that's all I can say. As I said I'm using it with LOMAC and it works beautifully. Of course, you have to customize it a lot because it is too sensitive out of the box. But there are different profiles that you can download. Once you get it set up right it works like a charm. This isn't a stupid idea BTW. I tried it in OPF and it would be a huge step forward. The only problem is I have to keep holding down the mouse look button and switching the trackir on and off (via hotkey.) It seems impractical to use it this way but that's why I started this thread is because OPF doesn't have enhanced support for trackir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pitufo 0 Posted June 20, 2004 *BUMP* So where's all the lomac players to support the cause?!?!? o, mabye they're playing lomac with their trackir's.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecOp9 0 Posted June 20, 2004 Great idea, but I just don't see if I ever purchased something like this, I would use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted June 27, 2004 Hmmm, could be a good idea if the product was cheap - which it obviously isn't!! 300 dollars?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baphomet 0 Posted June 27, 2004 This isn't all that great in my opinion. Certainly not a feature to make or break a game. Here's a suggestion. Press the '*' button on your keypad and looking around with your mouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted June 27, 2004 I have to agree with Gordy here. As if I want to look at my monitor out of the corner of my eye. To me this is a stupid idea and a waste of research and development time/money. Just like the fridges/washing machines that connect to the internet. Maybe they can modify the TrackIR to shift view perspective based on right and left ear wiggling. OK, I'll shutup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy17 1 Posted June 27, 2004 I support the request to get the free mouse look in cockpits back to OFP1! The way it is now (this auto centering) is really the worst way it was since ver1.0! (and as a nice side effect I could use my TrackIR with it) This is hopefully only a smal change. And like OFP2 is still far away I would like to see it in OFP1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest major gandhi Posted June 27, 2004 Quote[/b] ]I support the request to get the free mouse look in cockpits back to OFP1! The way it is now (this auto centering) is really the worst way it was since ver1.0!(and as a nice side effect I could use my TrackIR with it) This is hopefully only a smal change. And like OFP2 is still far away I would like to see it in OFP1. I agree, auto-centring is crap. Without this thing I could look around in the cockpit with this special button on the top of my sidewinder joystick. ATM it's quite hard to look around with this button since you have to constantly press it to look into a special direction. This makes air-air or air-ground battles really frustrating. Isn't there a way to manually disable this auto-centring thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dubble0zero 0 Posted June 27, 2004 I totally agree that it would be really great to have TIR in OFP, It is possible to use it with an extra program that transform the TIR input to keys, that way you can use it with the nummerical keyboard, and by that look in diffrent directions... The problem is that if you touch the mouse while looking in an other direction, you will turn that way... It would absolutley be better with a special DLL for it... I'm not really sure how much work that is needed, but I think that Naturalpoint will do most of the programming, and if that's the case, BIS only will have to give them the permission, and some information on how the input in OFP works (I guess)... I have written some threads here before about this subjekt, but I hope that this time BIS will have a look at it (if they haven't before)... By the way, I have read on the naturalpoint forums that they are having contact with BIS concerning OFP2, so hopfully we will have TIR support for that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted June 27, 2004 Two serious alternatives to how TrackIR works, as I understand it. 1. Adjust the device's sensitivity so that less of a head turn can result in more of a shift in screen view. That way you can keep your eye on the screen. 2. Adjust the device to be sensitive to head tilts, rather than turns. Again, you would get the same benefit of keep your eyes on the screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
