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l'Inno di Mamelli is my favourite anthem. smile_o.gif

It's also the longest anthem in the world smile_o.gif

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I think the Italian national anthem is one of the best in the world.

Nah, the Italian anthem is like marching band music gone wrong.

The best anthems IMO are:

1.Russian (Same as old Soviet..Soyuz nerushimiy respublik svobodnykh..although they've probably changed the words)

2. German (actually based on a classical piece by Haydn)

3. British (God Save the Queen)

The French is excellent as an anthem, but bad as music. On the other side is the EU (Ode to the Joy chorus of Beethoven's 9th Symphony) which is good music but horrible as an anthem.

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If Rooney is Shrek, who is his faithful loudmouthed sidekick, Donkey? Answers on a postcard please.....

That green guy doesnt look too good, he really needs a bit of our fair portuguese sun to gets some healthy colors in him.

Whatever the outcome today, im hoping for a very good match smile_o.gif

If we win Go Portugal!!!!

If we loose, go Czechs!!! (after all they made OFP) tounge_o.gif

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Schäde Deutschland, Alles is fur bei Alles is fur bei tounge_o.gif

Go Holland  biggrin_o.gif

What a party last night  wink_o.gif

This are going to be a couple of exciting games, specialy England vs. Portugal

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Whahahahahahahahaha tounge_o.gif

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Lets be honnest. The german tried hard and during the second half they gave what they had to give. It was no secret that this years team is not up to international standards. AND in contrast to Holland they didnt receive 3 goals after leading 2-0.

And to say that this Czeck team was B-team standards turned out to be incorrect as well, especially after the changes made in the second half.

Unfortunately they totally missed to fight during the first half. Rumor sais that the germans were afraid to make a mistake.

After all I am happy with the performance. I am happy with Rudi, I am happy with the new young players that we have in the team and 2006 we might have a fair chance to succeed reaching the finals.

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I was right, the second suite of C.R. was not enough to kick Germany out of the tournament - it needed a bad first period (for which alone they deserved to go home), some bad luck (but you do not deserve good luck after such a first period), including the injury of Lokvenc that lead to the substitution with Baros, and of course a generally bad team throughout the tournament (a good period or two doesn't make a good team).

However, there was also some light. A fighting Ballack, Schweinsteiger, and probably the best overall, Phillip Lahm. Hopefully a good international team will buy him soon, Roberto Carlos is getting old anyway wink_o.gif (imagines him going back to Munich next year crazy_o.gif )

The really sad part of it is that Holland got through, Holland, HOLLAND!!!

Such a shame!!! mad_o.gifcrazy_o.gifsad_o.gif

Somebody please close this thread now, Fubar, Ralph, Bastler?!

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Wait a sec. Did you miss the changes made during the seconda half. This was no B-team anymore.

Also, RUDI resigned. Noone actually accused him, at least I didnt! (except the shitty Bild Zeitung, a newspaper that nearly goes as low as the british press).

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LMAO, Czech, Dutch and English supporters were singing "Auf Wiedersehen" for a while biggrin_o.gif

the dutch supporteres were also singing

go czech republik! (or something) biggrin_o.gif

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Wait a sec. Did you miss the changes made during the seconda half. This was no B-team anymore.

Also, RUDI resigned. Noone actually accused him, at least I didnt! (except the shitty Bild Zeitung, a newspaper that nearly goes as low as the british press).

No one goes as low as the british press tounge_o.gif

sadly sad_o.gif

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Wait a sec. Did you miss the changes made during the seconda half. This was no B-team anymore.

Also, RUDI resigned. Noone actually accused him, at least I didnt! (except the shitty Bild Zeitung, a newspaper that nearly goes as low as the british press).

It was still a B-Team, e.g. substituting the A-Captain after the first period to prevent him getting his second yellow card. Baros got only in because of Lokvenc' injury. Remains Proborsky, brought because the others were not capable to stop Lahm on his side, but Proborsky couldn't stop him either...

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biggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gif Thank you very much Czech Republic, we couldn't have done it without you!

Czech was a B-team, only 2 players started against Germany who also started against Holland. Bringing in Hübschmann, Baros and Poborsky in the second half doesn't change the fact they played with second choice (which I must say are excellent players aswell).

With many thanks to Heinz, Baros and Blazek (the Czech goalkeeper) I must say that germany deserves to go home. We don't deserve to go to the quarters, but with Germany and Latvia being rather weak teams, there was no other way tounge_o.gif. A good first half against Holland and a good 25 minutes orso against Czech and a total of 2 goals doesn't give you the right to go thrue.

For Holland all I can say is I hope we grow further into the tournament, or else this was just delaying the execution. The defense was solid against Latvia, but Verpakovskis had a bad day orso cause I didn't see him the entire match. Larsson and Ibrahimovic will be a different story.

btw. van Nistelrooij levels with Rooney as topscorer with 4 goals smile_o.gif

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Wait a sec. Did you miss the changes made during the seconda half. This was no B-team anymore.

Did you miss the wink_o.gif in my comment?

Quote[/b] ]Also, RUDI resigned. Noone actually accused him, at least I didnt! (except the shitty Bild Zeitung, a newspaper that nearly goes as low as the british press).

Ack. Imo he is fed up with it. Only for minutes in the second half the german team showed something like teamplay. And that's not Rudi's fault! A football player must not be stupid or blind. He has to analyse the current situation (who's got the ball, who's free, what pass will come next, where am I needed) and has to react according to his conclusion. Then you can expect double-passes, hit-the-point-flanks etc. But imo this german team consists mainly of lone warriors. The result was presented yesterday with a lone striker --Kurany-- getting lost in front of the goal...

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Rudi Völler has resigned because he thinks he doesn't have enough support to experiment with new and young players.

If that's the reason, that people don't allow him to experiment with new and fresh talents, then Germany deserves to loose the next Championsships. Actually this is the reason of Germany's downfall - no experiments.

Gratulations Holland, you had nothing to loose, you have won, you have reached the quarters.

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Rudi resigned ?

What a pitty. He´s not the responsible one for the weak german performance. It´s the current status of german football that is gotta be held responsible for it. There are just not enough intentions to build up new young players in germany. The clubs prefer to buy foreign players and don´t invest into their own youth players. That´s the dilemma. That´s why we don´t have a fresh and willing team. To blame this on the trainer who led us to Vice world champion is pretty unfair. I thought he was a great trainer and I´m still supporting him.

Tribute to Rudi !!!

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Quote[/b] ]West Germany’s number one striker in the 1980s, Rudi Völler, won his first cap against Northern Ireland in late 1982. Born in Hanau, he won the Player of the Year award the following year, as well as ending up as topscorer in the Bundesliga playing for Werder Bremen. Völler was a typical goalgetter kind of player. He rarely scored spectacular goals, but was great with the ball at his feet and could beat a man or two before scoring. He was also a master inside the penalty-area.

Euro 1984 was Rudi’s first big tournament, but despite his two goals, West Germany were eliminated already in the first round. Two years later in the Mexico World Cup, the Germans once again progressed far, but Völler spent much time on the bench as coach Beckenbauer preferred Klaus Allofs to partner Rummenigge in attack. He came on as a substitute in the semifinal to score the second in the 2-0 win over France, and in the final he came from the bench to equalize, but Argentina scored a late winner and became champions.

Having lost in the semifinal to Holland at Euro 1988, Völler and Germany met the Dutch again in the second round of the World Cup in Italy 1990. This time Rudi was involved in an incident with Dutchman Rijkaard which saw them both get sent off. Völler was back for the semifinal with England and in the final he was fouled inside the penalty area which lead to Andreas Brehme scoring the winning goal against Argentina five minutes from the end. Völler scored three goals in the tournament and could lift the World Cup trophy having played the final at the Olympic Stadium in Rome, his homeground, as he was playing for AS Roma at the time.

Rudi later played for Olympique Marseille and won the Champions League before moving back to Germany in 1994 to play for Bayer Leverkusen. He played in his last World Cup in USA where he as a 34 year-old spent much time on the bench, but scored two goals as his team was knocked out against all odds by Bulgaria in the quarterfinal. That defeat marked the end of his 12 year international career. He retired in 1996 and is now caretaker manager for the German national team.

My respect !

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Rudi Völler has resigned because he thinks he doesn't have enough support to experiment with new and young players.

Rubbish!

Actually the current team is the best we can get. There's no reason to complain...

We have to make these experiments and everybody knows it! mad_o.gif

Rudi should go on with the new players and form a good team for 2006!

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Schäde Deutschland, Alles is fur bei Alles is fur bei tounge_o.gif

Go Holland  biggrin_o.gif

What a party last night  wink_o.gif

This are going to be a couple of exciting games, specialy England vs. Portugal

Whahahahahahahahaha tounge_o.gif

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA biggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gifbiggrin_o.gif

THE NETHERLANDS RULE!!

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I think the Italian national anthem is one of the best in the world.

Nah, the Italian anthem is like marching band music gone wrong.

The best anthems IMO are:

1.Russian (Same as old Soviet..Soyuz nerushimiy respublik svobodnykh..although they've probably changed the words)

2. German (actually based on a classical piece by Haydn)

3. British (God Save the Queen)

The French is excellent as an anthem, but bad as music. On the other side is the EU (Ode to the Joy chorus of Beethoven's 9th Symphony) which is good music but horrible as an anthem.

Yep well everyone has their own opinion, but i agree the Russian anthem is good. I also like the English national anthem "Land of Hope and Glory".

Iam just wondering why does the English team have the British anthem at matches, while the Scottich and Welsh use their own anthems?

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As an Englishman i must say, poor Germany

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I do feel a little bit sorry for Voller, Ballack and one or two others who obviously tried quite hard but TBH Germany just didnt look like a winning team last night. Good luck to them for the next world (nowadays Germany might actually need it).

England-Portugal ...If England put in a Croatia match type performance they should win but we always seem to find nailbiting ways to lose. Well i might have to get drunk for this one...

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Quote[/b] ]Good luck to them for the next world (nowadays Germany might actually need it).

World -Cup- that is.  tounge_o.gif (then again if God is German....)

Bordoy-

Quote[/b] ]I also like the English national anthem "Land of Hope and Glory".

Nah Land of Hope and Glory is fairly rubbish IMHO, at least Jerusalem is a bit stirring and Rule Brittania is quite lively (if equally inappropriate as an English anthem)

Quote[/b] ]Iam just wondering why does the English team have the British anthem at matches, while the Scottich and Welsh use their own anthems?

In my opinion because its better. Well i wouldnt rather hear LOHAG. It is a bit of an idiosyncrasy though. Anyway, OT

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