Upcoming lost brother addons

[calm_terror 0]

CTF might not work. i don't remember if every unit and vehical can carry a flag proxy..

but most do..

[miles teg 1]

New Pic of upcoming IDF Merkava Mk4 MBT pending authorization from its original addon maker, Bizaroide.

The textures as you can see have been modified to make them represent more accurately the tan color scheme on IFD Mk4 tanks.  In addition the rear sideskirt grill has been fixed up, the wheels have been fixed up, a new rear cargo area has been added (the same one from our Mk2), a few more details have been added to the textures (like the cannon barrel and the rear door), and the .cpp has been adjusted to give it more realistic armor values that reflect the fact that the Mk4 is perhaps the most heavily armored tank in the world.

Even the roof armor is very heavy unlike the M1A1/A2 tanks which are vulnerable to RPG fire on the turret roof (the primary area where M1's have been hit and destroyed in Iraq by RPG fire). Aside from new armor values, we've also given it new cannon, turret, MG, and engine sounds.

 

Finally we have given the tank LAHAT ATGM's that are SACLOS guided.  In the game the missile follows whatever point you aim at just like a real SACLOS guided missile like the TOW. The LAHAT is a ATGM fired from the tank cannon that is used today by the IDF in both its 105mm and 120mm tank cannons.

The gun reload times also are reduced to reflect the auto-loader in the tank.  

Aside from those things we're working on one extra special model that will be kinda amusing and fun.  It will be a Mk4 model showing immense battle dammage (burn and splash marks from RPG hits) and with some stuff added to it that will strike fear in the enemy.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[bucket man 2]

Looks nice!

Is the different Merkava with damage and stuff static or a real tank that can shoot, fire and move?

Is Israel deploying Merkava MK4 yet? I thought its in the prototype state and Merkava MK3 is the most recent in active service.

[calm_terror 0]

it moves and it kicks ass.

and there are a few mk4 in service.

but this is the tank they will be using for awhile.

we might try to do an mk3 but it will be a bitch..

lol

there is a few other suprises we might throw in too..

[CanadianTerror 0]

Looks good guys.

Looking forward to the next release.

[miles teg 1]

Coming Soon.... a Arab civilians and terrorist pack:

There are a few bugs in the pics which will be fixed, but these will give you some idea of what we're working on in this pack.

They will be open to all mods to improve upon as long as the LoBo mod is allowed to use any of their improvements in our own mod. I was going to release them last night, but Calm Terror is making a few more fixes on them before we do so.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[theavonlady 2]

Israeli tourists? They look Czech!

[Acecombat 0]

Ooohhh the thoobs look too stretched , what happened the tailor ran out of cloth , or you guys ran out of textures    

Please fix them i cant bare to have them look like that  

EDIT: What the how come i missed the ghutra and hagal , guys please fix it too and make it better my suggestion make the hagal a bit over the forehead atleast thats where it stays and try to make a bit of vrious styles in these cant have everyone looking like a clone, make a different style like bend the ghutra on some folks from back to up as thats how people where it these days. I'll post a few pics to help you if you want. And plz dont take this as bashing of some sort i geneuinely wanna help and since there wont be anyone else but me here who can give properly criticise you on this too

[miles teg 1]

The problem is this... myself and Calm Terror have pretty much hit the limits of our addon making capabilities on these guys.  Neither of us is an expert texturer or modeller.  The headdress I spent A LONG LONG time on and Calm Terror fixed a few problems with it.  An expert modeller could probably fix it up nice or make a new one to replace ours, however we got sick and tired of waiting for other addon makers to make one so I decided, screw it, I'll make one myself even if its not perfect.  The difficulty is in clipping issues...its extremely difficult to get the Ghutra to fit properly on their heads and to make it look realistic.  This is the same problem with the Higal.  It would require many hours of work to move it around to different locations as each time the cloth part I would have to completely re-do.   I simply don't have the time to devote to working any more on this.  Likewise Calm Terror did the same thing with the thoob and spent a great deal of time making it so that it didn't clip when the man would walk or run and that it would with the body properly.

As far as I'm aware of, Calm Terror is the first addon maker to create a thoob which in and of itself I think is a pretty big accomplishment. Same for the headdress.

But I do agree that they need improvements...but we simply lack the skill required to significantly improve them further.

The purpose of releasing these addons will be primarily so that other mod teams can further develop them into more realistic looking Arab civilians.  The only improvement will be that the sleeves on the thoobs will have the lighting problem you see on them fixed.   But the stretched look requires someone with more knowledge on texture mapping and texture artistry to fix.... expertise that LoBo doesn't have right now... hence the reason why we'd like to share these with other addon makers and mod teams so they can help make them better.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[calm_terror 0]

yes basically everythign Miles said and the fact if I was to spend that much time on these there would be no time left for the actual Lobo add ons.

this terrorist/civ pack is open source and just a base for everyone to use and edit the only requirement is we get to use your work.

I made to require very little it only uses Default JAM weapons.

the actual egyptian/palistining/jordaning pack will have better textures and stuff remember this is generic arab.

as for avon's comment.. smart ass.. lol we don't have any women faces. lots of men but very few women. I completely suck at making faces. if people would start making women faces I could make some arab and Israeli women.

yeha I could take the defualt BIS czech's and give them a tan.. but that can only go so far.

so start demanding equal faces for women!

[CanadianTerror 0]

I wouldnt release them like that open source or not. (I'm not trying to sound overly critical...just honest)

IMO, you should put out a call for texture help. I dont know how your progress is but if you guys are making a large mod and have a lot of texture issues...that just makes for a lot of people complaining and a lot of fixes that I'm sure will become annoying after you spent a lot of time making it.

You know what it's like after mods get released.

[calm_terror 0]

I am not goin to bother making new textures for the robe thing these atleast have some detail. and I don't really care how the robes look. hell none of these evne have damage textures.

[miles teg 1]

I have in the past called for help texturing and never got any responses because all the texture artists are busy with their own mods.   By releasing them this gives other Middle East mods more incentive to fix them up not only for the LoBo mod but for their own mods as well.  At the same time it also gives mission makers some civilians and terrorists to mess around with until they are improved.  We actually don't have a huge amount of texture problems because generally most of our addons either used modified textures (from the original textures) or they had good mapping that allowed for easy modification of existing textures into entirely new textures. These Arab civilian/terrorist units are unique in that they are built mostly from scratch.

Plus we're used to people whining about the quality of the LoBo stuff.  But we're not BAS, we're not DKM, ect...

We're more interested in just getting stuff out there for people to play with first and foremost.  This is done in part by modifying (with permission from the original makers) addons that have already been created.  By doing this quality remains fairly good overall and we can put out addons quickly.

We got a huge pack coming out shortly in which there will be some units that people will bitch about, but with others that I think many people here will be extremely happy and surprised about.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[CanadianTerror 0]

Quote[/b] ]hell none of these evne have damage textures.

I take it that you mean the arab civs.

How about the other troops in the mod?

[calm_terror 0]

nope only the IDF troops

I have never bothered making damage textures for the Egyptians.

I really don't see a huge point.

since for the most part in rela life it is pretty hard to see bullet wounds on soldiers unless it is a really really bad fatal hit. and you might say while I see those images of soldiers in iraq covered in blood and blood soaked damaged cloths.

but that is mostly from meidcs attending to the soldier.

most uniforms are pretty dence and don't absorb liquids.

and chest wounds you would never see due to body armour.

and head wounds well that is defualted in BIS for the face but the helemt would not blled through on the front.

and a shot to the hand you would basical lose a finger or 2.

I am not a huge fan of the whole anal detail. etc playablity is better then over detail where you casn't put more then 20 units in combat..

[CanadianTerror 0]

Well it's your mod.

To be honest, your talking me out of wanting to dload it but thats just my opinion.

Good luck.

[miles teg 1]

Um.... actually I didn't realize until now that the Egyptians were missing dammage textures. I don't think anybody brought that up after our last release.

I'll see about doing the dammage textures as it doesn't make sense to have them on the IDF and not on the Egyptians.

But it may not be on the upcoming pack, but rather as an update in addonpack #3 (which is actually almost complete).

Aside from that however, there is a heck of alot more then just Egyptian infantry in this upcoming pack and I don't think many people are going to mind too much as they've seen to have been having fun with what we released so far.

This next pack will have helicopters, aircraft, boats, and lots of tanks, APC's, AA systems, ect...

They are not all perfect addons, but I think they are good enough to make some decent missions with and I think that some of the addons in the pack absolutely rock (like the Merkava tanks).

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[miles teg 1]

Just wanted to let you all know that the LoBo Addon Pack #2 release is imminent. Right now I'm just in the process of getting hosts for the pack.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[sgtkill 0]

Just wanted to let you all know that the LoBo Addon Pack #2 release is imminent.  Right now I'm just in the process of getting hosts for the pack.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

wow lol i was gonna say this is a sucky week cuz nothing came out that i'd like. but this is some good news

[calm_terror 0]

Add-on Pack #2

there add-on pack 2 ready for critizing er downloading

lol

miles will make a post in completed area later with lists and stuff

[Acecombat 0]

I know you guys are low on people working for you and all but somehow this isnt fair to the pack , someone please come forward with the requried skills and help these guys out. The pack hass o much promise and potential if its made with all the tit bits fixed correctly. I appluad your efforst miles and calm for atleast venturing in this direction but i hope you guys do get some help.

You guys could try contacting 3WX mod or the Bushfire mod maybe? They do have some texturers in them. The robe textures sadly arent that good looking they look so neonish and those stripey stretchyness look just doesnt do justice to these units.

[miles teg 1]

Good news folks. Calm Terror has begun work on fixing up our Jordanian units. Here are some pics of our Royal Jordanian Commando units:

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Tomislav 0]

troops look good,

dunno if it has been mentioned, but if you fill your hilux completly with people, you can see the weapons outside on the right side.

[miles teg 1]

Yeah... I think the BIS Humvee has a similar problem.  In the next update I'll see if I or Calm Terror can move the proxy over a little.   It shouldn't be too difficult to fix.  Thanks for pointing it out.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[calm_terror 0]

yeah it is just the wrong animation for it next update of it i will use the 5 ton animation and hopefully there should bea few different verisions of it.

btw those are not commados..

they are Royal Jordanian Special Operations units.

lol