A tool to make odol explorer....

[SNIPER_SKULL 0]

ok guys and girls of tool makeing i wanted to see if one of you wanted to make a tool to save your work so.. its NOT going to work in ODOL Explorer

ok i know jack on how to make OFP tools so i do not know what tools its going to take or how hard it is going to be

i do not know if you make a new PBO tool or make a file you put in the PBO or what but i want to see a tool made

im looking for feed back on it too

EDIT the topis is not on odol explorer it's on a new tool being made

[Pathy 0]

here here

[Shadow NX 1]

I guess the Moderator are already putting their riot gear on atm

[Pathy 0]

Well this should be a thread about a tool, i dont want to hear the ethics arguments again. If you want to talk Ethics go over the the ODOL explorer thread in A&M:complete

[llauma 0]

Well this should be a thread about a tool, i dont want to hear the ethics arguments again. If you want to talk Ethics go over the the ODOL explorer thread in A&M:complete

Why should that thread be about ethics while this shouldn't?

[Pathy 0]

Well you tell me what the point is of ending up with 2 identical threads?

Find a good reason and you get a prize

[llauma 0]

I see now reason to have two identical threads but as you brought ethics to their thread you should expect ethics in this one too.

It's ridiculous if you ban people from commenting this tool as you commented theirs. This thread is the right place for comments about this tool and not the ODOL explorer thread.

[SNIPER_SKULL 0]

I see now reason to have two identical threads but as you brought ethics to their thread you should expect ethics in this one too.

It's ridiculous if you ban people from commenting this tool as you commented theirs. This thread is the right place for comments about this tool and not the ODOL explorer thread.

its is NOT identical thread

the topic is on a NEW tool being made

[waffendennis 0]

Well I made a tool to Decrypt p3d's and PBO's

So nothing ( except OFP ) can open them.

But the point it releasing it public will be stupid ( will it? )

[Migebuff 0]

Releasing it would just destroy the community even more.

Addons have to stay open source. I hope nobody will ever create/release another encryption tool. If your work is so valuable that you have to lock, hide, protect and encrypt it, then you shouldnt release it at all.

[bn880 5]

You can not "protect" addons from being opened by peoples applications because then OFP would not know what to do with them as well. You are looking at a dead end.

[SNIPER_SKULL 0]

Releasing it would just destroy the community even more.

Addons have to stay open source. I hope nobody will ever create/release another encryption tool. If your work is so valuable that you have to lock, hide, protect and encrypt it, then you shouldnt release it at all.

so you know the topis is on a NEW tool being made

do not spam it up and get it locked guys

[Pathy 0]

Waffen this tool is no more stupid than releasing ODOL explorer with a save function. Give addon makers back the choice.....please

[Tactician 0]

It took years to give up the institution of slavery in America, too. Take it easy.

[Pathy 0]

And thats meant to mean?

Are you trying to compare the campaign for a tool to give addon makers the option, to, if they so wish, keep an addon secure, to the struggle for black civil rights in America? I hardly think they compare......

At the end of the day, its the addon makers who are making things, surely for that we should have the privalage to have a say in what is done with our models. All i want is something that allows me to release say, a BETA, and not worry that by the time i come to release the full thing that is obsolete already due to people riding on the back of what ive been doing......

Thats hardly comparative to keeping a race in slavery due to the colour of thier skin....

[Bobcatt666 0]

I'm all for making a tool that will protect months of hard work. Was checking to see if some of the military grade decryption programs would work, so if somebody did break it something more serious could be done to the hacker. But better to devise a civilian one instead. Besides if they can make a tool to open it freely then option for protection should also be allowed.

Funny how its not fair anymore that a counter measure is being plotted and people are moaning foul ball now..

Gotta love Karma...

[dharbert 0]

There already seems to be a tool out there that does what you are wanting. Whoever made that Avia truck pack, ask him what tool he used to pack the .pbo with. Neither PBO Decryptor, OFP Manager or Dragon Unpacker will open that thing. PBO Decryptor simply gives an error message that the file cannot be unpacked, while OFP Manager and Dragon Unpacker say that the file is empty. It also does the same thing with Inquisitor's OICW .pbo. Nothing will open that thing either.

So, just ask one of those guys what they used. You can't mess with the .p3d file if you can't open the .pbo in the first place.

[Sigma-6 29]

Personally, I think if any addonmakers are actually willing to quit modding for OFP over ODOL explorer, the community can only gain by losing them. Sure, if another tool comes out to encrypt addons (unlike Binarize, which was created to *optimize* them, and does it well) without any increase in optimization, then maybe four or five people will use it, so by all means, go ahead, but I have a feeling that this 'ethics' argument is already over.

[Stag 0]

Personally, I think if any addonmakers are actually willing to quit modding for OFP over ODOL explorer, the community can only gain by losing them. Sure, if another tool comes out to encrypt addons (unlike Binarize, which was created to *optimize* them, and does it well) without any increase in optimization, then maybe four or five people will use it, so by all means, go ahead, but I have a feeling that this 'ethics' argument is already over.

After the temporary lockdown of the OE release thread, I was going to shut up; getting into this kind of argument is like trying to nail a jelly to the ceiling. But Sigma, I got to say:

YOU DA MAN!

S!

[dharbert 0]

I, personally, don't see what all the fuss is about.  ODOL Explorer being released is one of the best things to happen to the community.

It's a simple concept.  Is it wrong to decrypt a model so you can change it for your own mod?  Yes.  Is it wrong to decrypt a model so you can see how it was made, then use that information to help you make your own mod?  No.

People (read: addon studios) are only bitching about it because now everyone will have the ability to make great mods and not just themselves.  So what?  If someone decrypts one of BAS's models to see how they did it, then uses that to help them make their own, so much the better.  We all benefit when everyone knows more about how to model and make configs and such.

So, addon studios like BAS will no longer have the only uber-leet mods.  Get over it.  And if anyone does decrypt and actually use someone else's model in their own mod, it will be painfully obvious when it is released and then no one will host it because it was stolen.

(By the way, I'm new here. Feel free to flame me until I'm nice and crispy.)

[SNIPER_SKULL 0]

OK one more time im going to say it THE TOPIC IS ON HOW TO MAKE A NEW TOOL YOU GUYS not on how odol explorer is so good or how it is so.. bad

[Stag 0]

HOW TO MAKE A NEW TOOL

Dunno.

[Bobcatt666 0]

I don't push for the ethics issue, but learned leave out a rope somebody will eventually hang theselves with it. It be nice to have an option if avaible. Again somebody wants the model unencrytped they can bother contacting the author directly as well as botaining the needed permission to carry out the further deveoplment of said addon. Seems to be more of something wrong with actually asking for permision instead cheat and sneak around, or that fact wne one person gets involved with an addon they find it gone thought a dozen or so hands before it sees release. Very few folks can alone make a decent quality addon by themselves.

But pretty much you can only speak for yourself, most of the debate here is the paranoia of folks swiping stuff. It was a problem even before this was released, and nobody knows if irt will make it a bigger problem seeing its so much easire to do now. And lots of people in ofp that canyone can really think about. Already seen some of BAS stuff showing up in game mod out side of ofp till they got hammered by fans and got a model maker to replace everything. I don't know kinda it just delinks a thing I liked in the comunity beingable to say thats cool and email an addon maker and say I like that could I make different blah blah blah for it. Been giving stuff to the community for so long freely most now have the attitude its all there to do as they please. I really dislike that some jerkoff runs around trying to play addonmakers are elitist types.

Which is bull, hell can't count howmany times I've gotten stuck and emailed PSC, BAS who took to time to give a hand. Even if they are busy slaving away for people who in my oppion don't deserve it, but rather than leg a few rotten apples ruin it of everyone else. gonna keep at it. Reminds me of Mass punishment that was comonly used in the military ones screw up all paid the price. Think about it..

Just my narrowminded opion, my slanted views are of my one and not those of the OFP comminity ;P

[m21man 0]

Why even bother making this tool? Even if someone can make a tool that encrypts P3Ds so that only OFP can read them, then someone will be able to break that encryption. Why don't people focus on making good addons, instead of beginning a Cold War of increasing encryptions? You'll end up with continous cycle of person A making an encrypter, which person B will crack, causing person C to make an even heavier encrypter, which person D will crack, and on and on and on... It's an utterly pointless cycle which will take away our best and brightest minds from making addons. Besides, I can't see how putting a model under a huge level of encryption will do anything for performance.

[NZXSHADOWS 0]

Yeah,Why make a tool that will just be hacked.Its a waste of time.