Us presidential election 2004

[denoir 0]

But Bush still in lead  

163 to 112

Ace, that means nothing. It's not a popular vote count and it's by state. All polls have not closed yet. Kerry has for instance a secured 55 votes from California and so on.

The relevant ones are primarily Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

[Acecombat 0]

But Bush still in lead  

163 to 112

Ace, that means nothing. It's not a popular vote count and it's by state. All polls have not closed yet. Kerry has for instance a secured 55 votes from California and so on.

The relevant ones are primarily Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

Hmm mind telling me what popular vote count is denoir?

This is the first time ive followed a US election or any election for that matter this thoroughly and sadly i havent penetrated in to the nitty grittys of it so ....

[denoir 0]

Hmm mind telling me what popular vote count is denoir?

The popular vote is the straight out vote count - i.e one person, one vote.

In the US however they have the electoral system where you don't vote directly for the candidate, but you delegate it to the representatives of your state. Each state has a number of these electoral votes and that's the relevant count. 270 votes are needed to get elected.

[Akira 0]

Republicans have launched a lawsuit in Philedelphia over 13000 absentee ballots, claiming they have not time to "validate" the votes.

[Bernadotte 0]

I have word that Bush is slightly ahead in Ohio....

Can we say New Florida?    

Kinda...  

Apparently, people are still standing in very long lines in some of Ohio's urban areas waiting to vote.  It could take hours but a judge has already re-inforced the rule that everyone who got in line before the poll closed can vote.

The interesting part is that the judge also called for additional voting machines to be brought in to speed up the process, but Ohio's Republican attorney general has already threatened to have any votes cast in such additional machines rendered invalid.

[EiZei 0]

Kerry has been getting good numbers on exit polls in Ohio but Florida looks bit bad, however lot of the pre-election votes have not been counted and methinks lot of those were casted by pro-Kerry people.

[Acecombat 0]

Astronaut makes voting history

Quote[/b] ]CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (AP) -- With a quick computer key stroke, space station astronaut Leroy Chiao became the first American to vote for president from space, casting an encrypted ballot via e-mail and urging fellow countrymen to go to the polls Tuesday.

Astronaut Leroy Chiao is the first American to vote for president from space.

Votes coming in from space

Ok one things bugging me , how come Illionios result gets wrapped up before the eastern most states? Like florida for e.g , is it because of vote numeric strength there being more or what?

[EiZei 0]

Ok one things bugging me , how come Illionios result gets wrapped up before the eastern most states? Like florida for e.g , is it because of vote numeric strength there being more or what?

Its hell lot easier to determine the winner beforehand when theres a big margin unlike in Florida where few thousand votes might turn the whole thing upside down.

[Akira 0]

CBS just did an interesting breakdown of Wisconsin voters

35% go to church

45% go less often

15% never go

correlate to the above numbers

60% for Bush

52% for Kerry

60%for Kerry

Also it is interesting to note that Wisconsin has had a gay governor before.

[Acecombat 0]

CBS just did an interesting breakdown of Wisconsin voters

35% go to church

45% go less often

15% never go

correlate to the above numbers

60% for Bush

52% for Kerry

60%for Kerry

Also it is interesting to note that Wisconsin has had a gay governor before.

Does this means that all religious people in the US are somewhat stupid , hell that guy has bulldozed plenty of religious values with his stupid war and they dont care about that?

Plus John kerrys catholic so wont the church going people support him?

[denoir 0]

I have word that Bush is slightly ahead in Ohio....

Can we say New Florida?    

Kinda...  

Apparently, people are still standing in very long lines in some of Ohio's urban areas waiting to vote.  It could take hours but a judge has already re-inforced the rule that everyone who got in line before the poll closed can vote.

The interesting part is that the judge also called for additional voting machines to be brought in to speed up the process, but Ohio's Republican attorney general has already threatened to have any votes cast in such additional machines rendered invalid.

I think it is utterly stupid to put the elections on a regular work-day.

[Akira 0]

Though Texas is considered Bush's win, its interesting to note that my local channel is having a running vote count and it currently stands at 53% Bush 46% Kerry.

EDIT: And Dems are winning some districts dispite redistricting, and one district is at 50% to 49% for the Dem. (for state congress)

[Acecombat 0]

Ok now someone explain me this , i know denoir said back that people dont vote for candidates they vote for someone else who in turn elects them right?

http://us.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/VA/P/00/

There its a close call between kerry and bush but how come Bush got all the EV?

[Akira 0]

Ok now someone explain me this , i know denoir said back that people dont vote for candidates they vote for someone else who in turn elects them right?

http://us.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/VA/P/00/

There its a close call between kerry and bush but how come Bush got all the EV?

Some states split electoral votes based on popular vote (ie Colorado, Maine, and others)

[Blake 0]

Bush is leading 55% to 45% there with 75% of votes counted. Thus, it's is extremely likely Kerry won't take over Bush unless some miracle voter behaviour happen somewhere. The one that wins most votes in a state gets all electoral votes from there - and in VA case all 13.

[Acecombat 0]

This sucks then what about the rest of the people who didnt wanted him in , it seems either you take the lead and take all or fall a bit back and lose everything .

This isnt fair! atleast doesnt looks fair to me.

[blackdog~ 0]

I bet 500 posts that Bush will win.

[Akira 0]

CBS has it

185 Bush

112 Kerry

Quote[/b] ]I bet 500 posts that Bush will win.

He's back....

[Acecombat 0]

Its 196 now  

And Kerry isnt moving at all from 112.

Missouri went to Bush.

[blackdog~ 0]

Make that 1000

192-112 communist broadcasting service projection

[Akira 0]

Make that 1000

192-112 communist broadcasting service projection

I'LL TAKE THAT BET

just because a)if Bush wins I won't be in this country for long and b) you won't last on this forum for long anyway

CBS has him at 196, but they are quick to point out that these are all "slam dunk" states....ie No surprises

PS Someone validate my bet!

EDIT: Nevermind...CBS says they had a "glitch" and went back to 185.

My bet stands.

EDIT: CBS also had interesting numbers that

45% were satisfied with Bush

55% were unsatisfied/angry

they also tied that to a vote of

60% were making a "protest vote against Bush"

CBS just went back to 196 with 11 from Missouri.

[turms 0]

Quote[/b] ]PS Someone validate my bet!

Confirmed!

[Acecombat 0]

BBC still stands at 196 for now.

Which states is Kerry suppose to win now? The whole america blinking in red is getting a bit intimidating for me to watch , i wanna see blue up now.

[The Frenchman 0]

BBC still stands at 196 for now.

Which states is Kerry suppose to win now? The whole america blinking in red is getting a bit intimidating for me to watch   , i wanna see blue up now.

Beautiful California

[Akira 0]

BBC still stands at 196 for now.

Which states is Kerry suppose to win now? The whole america blinking in red is getting a bit intimidating for me to watch , i wanna see blue up now.

The important thing to note is that alot of those are 3-4 EV's. It looks like a lot but it can be misleading.