Children

[ruff 102]

itd be alrite for rescue missions

where a child is kidnapped and d boys are to rescuem

[miles teg 1]

the problem is if you had seen what i saw before you wouldn't want it in game since when we can't have an opinion on things without being blasted that was my opinion

OFP is a GAME not a REALITY SHOW

if you want reality then enlist in the military make sure to be a volonteer in any war and then have fun

You are entitled to that opinion certainly.  I wouldn't want to play every OFP mission like that.  However for some missions I would want to have children in them if I'm going for utmost reality.   Showing dead children or really just dead civilians in general is not for entertainment purposes, but it makes you realize that you screwed up (like in a hostage rescue mission) and it gives you a better understanding of how such civilian deaths occur in real life conflicts such as in Iraq.  

Furthermore as others said, if you don't want to see such things then simply don't download such addons or missions.  In fact you don't even have to use the civilians BIS put in the game in your missions either if you don't want to.  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[theavonlady 2]

As a mother of 7, I just want to state that I don't see anything wrong per-se with a children addon in OFP, unless it's use is abused in a sadistic pathetic way - which is true for any AI addon.

This is a war game and I view AI cilivilian characters of all shapes colors and sizes as props that add relevant effects to missions.

[Cloney 0]

I don't see anything wrong with it, there are wars where children are present and are often times victims. OFP is a wargame and I'm all for having realism. If some sick fucker wants to shoot kids in the editor, that's his problem not ours.

[-SOC-S--Griffon26-2lt- 0]

this could also beg the question ...do we arm them ?

life has taught me many sobering facts ..one is a 10 year old with an AK-47 ....is still a armed threat ..even if he is just a 10 year old . AKsu in one hand ..teddy bear in the other ...a view i will never forget

[reedkiller 0]

Anyone who has ever shot a un-armed AI in OFP can not have a good argument against this addon.

[@cero 0]

As a mother of 7...

You what?

Bloody hell Avon, I thought you only have 2 or 3. Seven? lol, I strugle with two, never mind seven, youuuuuuuuu crazy woman J/K

BTT( Bak To Topic)

I do agree with the creation of kids addons, I would use them in my missions, moustly for cutscenes and intros.

It all depence of the editor and the player.

Discretion an maturity on their use is a must, and like someone said, addin sound files acting as the player conscience could be very impacting in the players stile, making the player think twice and not shooting an inocent.

But that should be done with all civilians aswell.

Something to put in a superconfiguration project like ECP or GMR.

@CERO.

[ozanzac 0]

Whoa, a fair few people overreacted here. Look, it's not like these addons are actual flesh and blood.

C'mon, when was the last time you broke down crying "Oh the humanity" when you launched a TOW missle at a fully loaded civillian bus. I must admit, when I found you could attach satchel charges to vehicles in FDF, I was car-bombing entire flashpoint familys left, right and centre, not to mention trying my best to blow them up with tripwires.

Who cares. There's no real moral dillemma in making a stand-alone child addon which could be killed in a game. About the worst thing you could do with such an addon would be to create a mission where a kid does a Columbine.

[Silent_Zero 0]

Invincible no... i dont even think its possible only very high health. the only thing that should be done is no damage textures if people dont like it....

ppl are not going to make that much sadistic missions as a child hunt when no blood textures...

but pp WILL make "Nuke the Kid" missions if they are "invincible"

so i say yes

[frk19732001 0]

the problem is if you had seen what i saw before you wouldn't want it in game since when we can't have an opinion on things without being blasted that was my opinion

OFP is a GAME not a REALITY SHOW

if you want reality then enlist in the military make sure to be a volonteer in any war and then have fun

You are entitled to that opinion certainly.  I wouldn't want to play every OFP mission like that.  However for some missions I would want to have children in them if I'm going for utmost reality.   Showing dead children or really just dead civilians in general is not for entertainment purposes, but it makes you realize that you screwed up (like in a hostage rescue mission) and it gives you a better understanding of how such civilian deaths occur in real life conflicts such as in Iraq.  

Furthermore as others said, if you don't want to see such things then simply don't download such addons or missions.  In fact you don't even have to use the civilians BIS put in the game in your missions either if you don't want to.  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

on that point i do agree with your opinion

i would make sure also that pple don't release missions that involves killing kids on purpose for cutscenes it would surely add more deph to it.

if someone is making it good luck with it.

[drow 0]

who gives a shit anymore,

I say make a child addon personally, and if this guy doesnt, i plan to have someone do it anyways for our mod, so stop all this pointless blabbering about it, everything has already been said.

Like someone already said (at least once) if unarmed and vulnerable civilians are in OFP, kids are fine, BIS should have added them anyways. They arent real children anyways, we all know noone would want to kill a child, but if theyre in ofp... come on, i doubt you re going to call off the artillary because a simulated child is standing in the village,

this is War.

[AntonVonE 0]

I'd love to see them when you're done Drow...

I was asking for an update of someone's work who is already making it...I have no intention of making one myself.

Anton

[Popee 0]

I think create unarmed children is good idea.

But you must not create  armed children!

It's reallty,and useful.But can anyone  say"I don't kill children in OFP"?

Answer is NO.

Your friend(?)

Popee

[4 IN 1 0]

as Leon said*with a low tone*: No woman, no kids.....

[miles teg 1]

That's right you can't have kids without women.  But since BIS gave us women (and men) then logic dictates that we must have kids.  

***WARNING***

Advanced mathamatical formula only for geniuses.

MAN + WOMAN = KIDS

(whew broke a sweat writing all that sciency stuff)  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[lukemax 0]

All you have to to to make a children is make the normal OFP man smaller!

Maybe with a different bulid

[theavonlady 2]

***WARNING***

Advanced mathamatical formula only for geniuses.

MAN + WOMAN = KIDS

In the words of Denoir: Quod Erat Demonstrandum

[CanadianTerror 0]

I don't understand your math formula. I'd have to see a video.

[drow 0]

All you have to to to make a children is make the normal OFP man smaller!

Maybe with a different bulid

sorry bro, the animations are all different i think, you cant just shrink 'em

...regardless, South Vietnamese soldiers,

actually all the Vietnamese people, civilians, VC and NVA as well were all shorter than american GI's so we are planning on getting it done for our units... im not sure how hard it will be but i know its not going to be a cake walk.

But hopefully, with a little luck, you will all be wasting little kids in no time.

just kidding... :P

[miles teg 1]

Actually I've seen and met some HUGE Vietnamese that who apparently were "eating their wheaties."

( Wheaties is an American breakfast cereal where the commercials used to call it "the breakfast of champions" and have sports stars on the front of the box.)

But yeah most Vietnamese are a bit shorter then average Americans, but not all. There's some tall ones as well.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Major Gripe 0]

***WARNING***

Advanced mathamatical formula only for geniuses.

MAN + WOMAN = KIDS

In the words of Denoir: Quod Erat Demonstrandum

I always thought it was Quite Easily Done

learn something new everyday

[GanjaSmuggler 0]

i don't get whats the problem. i liked to see kids for ofp not for the wierd phsyco killing but maybe for the paintball mod and to cut scences. Plus its only a game u can't take a game to sersiously or there is something wrong with you. Plus "hunting kids" map would be a cool/CRAZY idea i'd play it!

[pzvg 0]

Course, yes some rather sick folks would abuse it,

BFD, they do that now.

On the subject of arming the kids,

History, help me out

Ah, 9 yr old being awarded the Iron Cross for destroying a tank, Berlin '45

16 yr old girl manning a mg42 East Prussia '45

8 yr old Squad "leader" Iran-Iraq war '80's <later promoted to platoon leader and killed leading an attack, at the age of 9>

And a plethora of sad little Vietnamese children of various ages,wired <and not for sound>

[Sniperwolf572 758]

My theory:

Ive seen games with even worse scenario like SWAT3:CQB,where not only men and women are hostages,but following too:

-Toddlers

-4 year old kids

-15 year old kids

-Preists

-!DOGS!

-and some other sick stuff...

Now for that reason why the game wasnt rated "MATURE"

And why noone raised a lawsuit against Sierra (NO CS PLEASE)?

As you know (I'm 99% sure) that noone can sew you for making an child addon,my point is...

go ahead...

[xenom 0]

WTF?!?

for fucks sake, why does anyone need children in a wargame?  

it's true.

the childrens aren't needed in ofp...

(sorry for the bad english adds)