Frag in tank

[major_winters 0]

Its gonna have to be savin private ryan again!! Being able to climb up ontop of a tank and lob a grenade in the hatch, killin every1 inside would be cool, and u could have the option to lock the hatch.

Too many times have I watched a T-80 take its time thinking about how it'll kill me when I have now LAW

[ran 0]

before throwing your grenade :

pass through the infantry's combat perimeters and lines of fire, avoid the tank MG's fire, jump on the moving vehicle, open the hatch (if there's an external opening system) and only then, throw your toy into the tank

better take an AT4 or whatever and aim for the motor block , turret ring or tracks

+ you better check what you're using , i'd prefer a concussion grenade over a frag one if ever i was suicidary enough to jump on a tank , you never know what the top hull of a tank is made of and there might be interesting things inside the vehicle

[Impavido 0]

I spoke with a friend who used to drive M-60 Pattons. He said it was impossible to open the tank from the outside.

But what if the crew left it open? Like say there was a feature on some tanks to man an independently operate machinegun to protect against infantry. (Im sure something like that has been proposed) TO do so you have to open a hatch and stand or sit partically out of the tank. So if someone chose to do that they would be vulnerable to small arms fire and you would have a chance to lob a grenade in there.

And it doesnt even have to be an exact animation or command. If you throw a grenade on top of a tank with an open hatch, you have a chance of it going where you want.

Commander: "Soldier 6 O'clock"

*CLANK* *CLANK* *CLANK*

Driver: "Uhhh...what was that?"

Commander " All, Disemb...." BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

[Snypa UK 0]

To my knowledge almost every tank in the world has an external MG for the gunner or commander to use in the turned out position. Indeed many have two this has been proposed many times as a change for OFP2.

Anyway If Bis overhaul the inventory system it will mean most soldiers will carry a LAW or RPG anyway

[Snypa UK 0]

That could be good fun in multiplayer though and would reward players for stealth in SP you should also be able to shoot tank drivers in turned out position although i think you can already do that

[jaenak 0]

A number of years ago an ex US-Army-tank-driver-gone-lunatic living in L.A. got into an armoury and hopped into an M1A1 tank and took it for a joyride around the city. The only way the cops were able to stop the tank was that when the tank got stuck on the center divider median thing on the highway, a cop got out, hopped on top of the tank, used a pair of bolt cutters to cut the lock, opened the hatch from the outside and shot the driver. And if you don't believe me, turn on the TV and watch one of those TV programs of amazing police experiences around the US. The video is played regularly. So needless to say, I don't care who's friend drove what tank for anyone, you CAN access the inside of the tank from the outside because the L.A. police department did it! That is, granted the tank crew is stupid enough to let you get that close.

[Mr. Snrub 0]

So needless to say, I don't care who's friend drove what tank for anyone, you CAN access the inside of the tank from the outside because the L.A. police department did it! That is, granted the tank crew is stupid enough to let you get that close.

I thought it was an older tank (an M60 perhaps) that the nutter got away in?

Anyway, just because the LAPD managed to get inside that tank doesn't mean that anyone can open the hatches on any tank. Maybe the guy forgot to close/lock the hatch (he was a tad disturbed from what it appeared)? Even if this tank was accessible from the outside, it doesn't mean all tanks can be. A basic grunt with a couple of grenades doen't necessarily know how to open tank hatches, and while he's fiddling around up there he's a perfect target...

Personally, while it sounds like a bit of fun, its really more of a BF1942 thing, and OFP needs to stick to realism.

If someone made a WW2/Saving Private Ryan mod, and your desperate enough to lob grenades into tanks, it might even be scriptable...?

[jaenak 0]

Mr. Snrub I whole heartedly agree, lobbing grenades into tanks shouldn't really be for OPF.  But the tank the looney guy got into was huge and flat.  The M1A1 is the only one like that.  And no a regular soldier in the battle field won't be able to access the inside of that tank unless he has a pair of bolt cutters.  The LAPD had to use a pair of bolt cutters to pop off the lock on the hatch the guy closed.  The looney guy did lock it though because if he didn't, the lock wouldn't have been there for the cops to use the bolt cutters on.

And now that I think of it, in Saving Private Ryan when they're in the city I thought I remembered seeing a bunch of germans crawling all over a tank and a couple of americans coming and ruining their party with two submachine guns. Needless to say they ended up having more in common with swiss cheese than they ever realized.

[ralphwiggum 6]

the tank story actually happened in San Diego. The M60 was owned by a mil-surplus store, and the deranged man managed to drive it(he was a tank crew during his service). I guess the owner left some gas in the tank.

The pursuit ended when the tank was grounded due to track falling off after mowing over center divider. CHP(California Highway Patrol) officer managed to open the top and ordered to surrender, but the driver didn't and when it seemed like he managed to get the tank moving again, officer shot him on shoulder, which eventually ended up killing him.

there were side notes that 2 Apache helicopters were closing in to take the tank out if it went into downtown.

[jaenak 0]

Where the heck did you hear that story from?! You really need to check your sources 'cause your info's seriously incorrect.

[ozanzac 0]

No, I saw this on one of those police 'wildest video' programs. It was an M-60, not an Abrams, and I think it was in San Diego.

Before questioning someones sources, prove your own.

Edit:Viewer discretion advised: Contains image that may be offensive to some.

http://www.shackled.org/suromni/random/tank.html    

[jaenak 0]

Before questioning someones sources, prove your own.

Ozanzac, if I was in the same room as you right now, I'd hit you for that remark.

I was browsing the internet and I do vaguely remember seeing a video of a tank driving though San Diego. It was night time and it was indeed an M60 but that's not the story I'm talking about. And the story he gave was a mixture of that one, the one I'm talking about and urban legend. The one I'm talking about was even discussed on Maury Povich.

Before directly insulting someone, make sure you're talking about the same thing they are, otherwise you make yourself look like a fool.

[ralphwiggum 6]

Before questioning someones sources, prove your own.

Ozanzac, if I was in the same room as you right now, I'd hit you for that remark.

I was browsing the internet and I do vaguely remember seeing a video of a tank driving though San Diego.  It was night time and it was indeed an M60 but that's not the story I'm talking about.  And the story he gave was a mixture of that one, the one I'm talking about and urban legend.  The one I'm talking about was even discussed on Maury Povich.

Before directly insulting someone, make sure you're talking about the same thing they are, otherwise you make yourself look like a fool.

jaenak, i highly suggest that 1) you provide some link to your story, and 2) use more polite terms.

[ozanzac 0]

I'm not going to enter any kind of shitfight for any reason. Mainly because one: I provided a source above, and two, those who can't express themselves properly resort to violence. I beleive my intellectual superiority over you would result in your embarressment my freind, not mine.

Those pics are not night time pics in the source I PROVIDED above.

If indeed you are talking about a different incident, then that could be a misunderstanding on my behalf, or a failure on your behalf to properly communicate yourself, as others including myself interpreted your post as a different incident.

[jaenak 0]

My bad, you're right I was wrong.  It was San Diego.  The one I thought was San Diego must have been somewhere else.

And Ralph, I was thinking of using more polite terms but decided they didn't properly communicate the message 'your remark SERIOUSLY pissed me off' to the proper degree.

Tip:  Don't insult someone, even if they are wrong.

By the way, those who are insulted resort to violence, not those who can't express themselves.  And as far as intelectual superiority goes, I'll just say that you have no idea who you're speaking with.  Intelectually superior my foot. And when i replied to your insult, that source wasn't there. You stuck that up after I replied, look at the post and edit times.

[jaenak 0]

I figured it out. The night time event I thought was San Diego wasn't anything close. It was (believe it or not, Sydney Australia). Or a suburb maybe, they never gave much info on that one. I don't know what year that was either. And if it was Sydney, I doubt it was an M60 there too, after all, it was Australia, not America and the M60 is American. Whether Australia has their own version or not I'm not sure about.

Ozanzac, forgive me. I was thinking it was the wrong tank and the wrong city. Everything else I remembered was correct though. And as for your persistent insults, I forgive you. I'll simply avoid all other posts by you though seeing that you seem to be revealing a pattern that everything you say seems to be of the same sort that I flush on a regular basis. But as for me, I'll bury my hatchet and whether you bury yours or not is your business. I regret I had to meet you, but none the less, I wish you the best. Really I do. This is the last you'll hear from me in this thread, I've said my piece.

[Mr. Snrub 0]

I figured it out. The night time event I thought was San Diego wasn't anything close. It was (believe it or not, Sydney Australia). Or a suburb maybe, they never gave much info on that one. I don't know what year that was either. And if it was Sydney, I doubt it was an M60 there too, after all, it was Australia, not America and the M60 is American. Whether Australia has their own version or not I'm not sure about.

I hate to perpetuate the OT discussion, but you might be talking about the guy (an escaped mental patient and former ADF armoured crewman) who stole an M113 in Perth (Western Australia) and went on a bit of a joyride, knocking down a bit of a local police station etc. There may have been a similar incident in Sydney, but this may have been the one you were thinking of...

Anyway, like Ralph said, if things get out of hand with tanks (ie. you can't get near it) the only way to be sure is with a big, fat AT missile

Edit: The M113 incident in Perth did happen at night as well...

[Baron Hurlothrumbo IIX 0]

I've DEFINITELY seen one of those wildest police video programs with a guy that stole an MBT. Not an M113, some sort of MBT. He ran through a few quiet neighbourhoods, crushing cars etc, then went onto the freeway and caused a lot more trouble (including trying to push down a bridge IIRC) until he somehow managed to get the tank stuck on the big concrete things between the two sides and was shot.

[Jamesia 0]

I think i saw that same one.

someone tried jumping ontop of the tank and opening the hatch but it was locked.

[Harnu 0]

I spoke with a friend who used to drive M-60 Pattons.  He said it was impossible to open the tank from the outside.

Actually a while ago there was an M60 stolen and the guy decided to go down the streets. I think this was on the west coast. Anyway, after running over craploads of cars, dragging street lights, and scarying some people, he ran onto a median and got stuck. A cop (who worked with M60's in his previous service) was able to open the hatch. It took some kind of bolt cutters I believe, but they did get it open, and ended up shooting the guy who was inside.

[KTM_Calle 0]

@Hurlothrumbo, Jamesia, Harnu

Read the first page, all that has already been discussed and settled

[Harnu 0]

That wil lteach me to reply before reading all the others

[Jamesia 0]

That wil lteach me to reply before reading all the others      

grrrrrr harnu. ALWAYS READ PREVIOUS POSTS.... how many times do I have to tell you before you get it right?

[ralphwiggum 6]

let's get back on topic, shall we?

[Harnu 0]

let's get back on topic, shall we?

If I have to...

Say a tank is going along a trail and the hatch is open with the commander or gunner looking out, how hard would it be to lob a grenade at them or into the tank ?