Renagade 0 Posted August 13, 2003 http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/fairey_rotodyne-r.html "The Rotodyne was extremely large, with a cabin volume of 93m3 cubic feet. The logistical attributes of the machine were considerable with rear clam-shell doors allowing the loading of large motor vehicles. A forward-located door permitted simultaneous entry and exit of passengers, which would have allowed a quick turn-around in a commercial airline operation." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killagee 0 Posted August 13, 2003 The Caspian Sea Monster: Oh these things are wicked! IF you do a search on google for WIG "Wing in Ground Effect" aircraft you can find some amazing videos of these things on fly-by's. They were as big as a frigate.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 I read an article in Air International about Ekranoplans and they're not dead. There's plans to resurrect them as SAR and civil use Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted August 13, 2003 I read an article in Air International about Ekranoplans and they're not dead. There's plans to resurrect them as SAR and civil use  They've been "resurrected" in Russia for a while now Quote[/b] ]The VOLGA 2 is the only production Ekranoplan i.e. WIG-craft on the world market !Many  of these crafts are used in Russia on rivers, lakes and in the Tundra. In particular on the Lena whit it's ever changing water level. The Ekranoplan is registered in the Russian R class. The certificate of competence is the same as for a high speed boat. The craft can be used as passenger craft, as freighter and as rescue and ambulance craft . The operation and maintenance cost are very low, these are typical 95,- $ per hour  ( calculated operation time, 500 hours pro year ). In many cases the VOLGA 2 can substitute helicopters or very vast boats for a fraction of the costs.  Example: Passenger transport on sea esturiars, lakes and rivers, oil pipeline maintenance and repair in remote areas like Alaska. For interested parties we have  prepared a maintenance schedule and operation costs paper, which we can send you on  request. The craft can be delivered in two versions. Type one for sweat water us and in a  sea version. In the sea version an aluminum/magnesium alloy is used. Depending on version the prize for one unit is between $ 160.000,- and 245.000,-  This price is excluding import taxes free factory. Delivery time, three months  For more information contact us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 Yeah I mean the massive ones  And *Hiss Hiss!* at the UCAV *Booooooooo!!* Trying to get rid of pilots...Why ya lil no good doin good for nothin... *Shashman wanders off mumbling* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamme 0 Posted August 13, 2003 That Caspian Sea Monster looks cool. Are there any in use, or wasn't it a good idea afterall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TU--33ker 0 Posted August 13, 2003 It was a revolutionary design IMHO. It was faster than a ship and could carry a lot of troops. too bad they didn't have enough money to keep them in service. But it could also have a lot of success on the civilian market. imagine this thing as a ferry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted August 13, 2003 AFAIK the Russian military is still using at least one of the Caspian Sea Monster's smaller brothers, the Orlyonok, as a testbed: There have been talks of converting the Caspan Sea Monster into a Jetliner/Sealiner or Freighter since the USSR fell appart (much faster than a ship, much more efficient than a jet), but it's starting to look like that won't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 And *Hiss Hiss!* at the UCAV Â Â *Booooooooo!!* Trying to get rid of pilots...Why ya lil no good doin good for nothin... *Shashman wanders off mumbling* Here Here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TU--33ker 0 Posted August 13, 2003 reminds me of Terminator where computers replace human pilots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamme 0 Posted August 13, 2003 $33ker @ Aug. 13 2003,19:54)]reminds me of Terminator where computers replace human pilots. I've always wondered what the machine society would be if they won. Would they be just standing there doing like nothing and waiting for their batteries to drain? And does Skynet really think that's cool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted August 13, 2003 And *Hiss Hiss!* at the UCAV Â Â *Booooooooo!!* Trying to get rid of pilots...Why ya lil no good doin good for nothin... *Shashman wanders off mumbling* Here Here! Â Â Hey, don't shoot me. I only brought it up because its prototype :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted August 13, 2003 There was a documentry on those hydroplanes ages ago and they had a cool small version for a couple of ppl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 There was a documentry on those hydroplanes ages ago and they had a cool small version for a  couple  of ppl. Yeah I think that was in Jeremy Clarkson's Mean machines...Cool series..LOL when he puked in the F-15 Oh and about T-3, well don't those flying machines look feasable? I mean they have direction thrusters, and pretty functional looking control surfaces.I'm sure they would work IRL. Scary... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted August 13, 2003 I mean they have direction thrusters, and pretty functional looking control surfaces.I'm sure they would work IRL. So does the X-Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 Well maybe the X-Wing could be built and flown IRL then Actually, no it doesn't look like it could fly IRL because it doesn't have anything acting as horizontal stabilisers But on those flying machines in T-3 the jets look like they could be used for this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted August 13, 2003 Well maybe the X-Wing could be built and flown IRL then  Actually, no it doesn't look like it could fly IRL because it doesn't have anything acting as horizontal stabilisers   But on those flying machines in T-3 the jets look like they could be used for this  I'd love to see you as head of Research and Development for the USAF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 So would I But seriously, wouldn't they be possible?The flying machines in T-3... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dauragon 0 Posted August 13, 2003 shouldnt they fall while the jets move ? oh yeah so called "Boeing" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted August 13, 2003 I don't think so because there's the jet between the vertical surfaces...Then again I'm not much of an aeronautical engineer so... Here are some pictures of it: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TU--33ker 0 Posted August 13, 2003 There was a documentry on those hydroplanes ages ago and they had a cool small version for a  couple  of ppl. I've heard that they made some small ones for one or two people with a jet engine. They should be patrol vehicles for the polar regions and they were pretty fast on ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted August 13, 2003 Well maybe the X-Wing could be built and flown IRL then  Actually, no it doesn't look like it could fly IRL because it doesn't have anything acting as horizontal stabilisers   But on those flying machines in T-3 the jets look like they could be used for this  You don't need a horizontal stabilizer, there are other ways to control pitch and roll. Flying wings don't have a horizontal stabilizer per se, for instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites