HellToupee 0 Posted May 31, 2003 ID have recently realeased ET about 2 days ago, the planned wolf sequel that went free after its sp was decided not up to scratch and canned. It features 6 maps, a linux and windoze client, and fixes all the problems from the mp test like the lag and the voices etc. I was a big RTCW fan and i love this, dont expect realism its a fast paced team play game. download links windoze locations: http://www.splashdamage.org/download.php?op=viewsdownload&sid=1 Linux locations: http://www.splashdamage.org/download.php?op=viewsdownload&sid=2 need more games with linux versons they run much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedyDonkey 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I think im gonna download this. What is the system requirements for this game? Btw i found a Trailer and some screenshots: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted May 31, 2003 For a free games, it seems to be good But as splash damage didnt include the MP bots they said was "exceptionnal , fun , teamwork oriented" , this game is now useless to me I can understand they didnt want to spend time on a SP campaign, but the deletion of the MP bots is a shame /files deleted as soon as i had the bad surprise to not finding the awaited MP bots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedyDonkey 0 Posted May 31, 2003 For a free games, it seems to be good But as splash damage didnt include the MP bots they said was "exceptionnal , fun , teamwork oriented" , this game is now useless to me  I can understand they didnt want to spend time on a SP campaign, but the deletion of the MP bots is a shame /files deleted as soon as i had the bad surprise to not finding the awaited MP bots This seems to be very hard to make in a good way since alot of professional game devlopers say they can´t do it (like H&D2) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I kinda liked RTCW, only part that really irritated me is the bad accuracy of those weapons and the fact that you need to hit someone A LOT before they die. Of course if you shoot'm in the head they'll die faster but i find it pretty hard to aim for the head in this game. This game'd be a lot cooler if the HP would be 50 - 70, 50 for soldiers, medics 70. This way i'd have a lot more fun playing it. The realism is just not good enough, i don't really mind the accuracy thing but the damage system needs to change. Maybe it'd be interesting to make a realism and non realism MP... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted May 31, 2003 finally...a mindless shooter that is priced right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted May 31, 2003 For a free games, it seems to be good But as splash damage didnt include the MP bots they said was "exceptionnal , fun , teamwork oriented" , this game is now useless to me  I can understand they didnt want to spend time on a SP campaign, but the deletion of the MP bots is a shame /files deleted as soon as i had the bad surprise to not finding the awaited MP bots This seems to be very hard to make in a good way since alot of professional game devlopers say they can´t do it (like H&D2) I agree, i can imagine how incredibly hard it can be to make a good AI that work in team. Until now , only Swat 3 and OFP AI gave me total satisfaction (oh, everything can be perfected, but those 2 games team AI were and are always sufficient for my pleasure) . My problem with splash damage (the maker of the already no-bot Q3Fortress mod, why this didnt gave me a hint i must be blind sometime)  is that for a long time they stated their MP bots were playing very well , with great teamwork and developpers had great fun playing versus them in MP maps And now to see that is was just public relations lies disapoint me a lot more , i was really waiting for this said team bot. The game itself is good , even more because it is free , but i prefer when people are honest and say "our bots are not good" instead of making false statement during development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedyDonkey 0 Posted May 31, 2003 Ok i see. Well i just tried it and im glad it works on my machine. The game itself feels arcade, but that doesn´t have to be a bad thing. And i had major problems with joining servers. In 8 out of 15 tries i got "This server is for low pingers only" This problem concerns swedish servers aswell. This is strange because i usually have between 3-30 ms in flashpoint in swedish servers... This is certainly a good game, considering the fact that it´s free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I'm surprised by how much teamwork is in this game. Yeah, its sort of a shoot-em up, but theres a good amount of relying on your teammates to get the job done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I'm surprised by how much teamwork is in this game. Â Yeah, its sort of a shoot-em up, but theres a good amount of relying on your teammates to get the job done. Is this version still with the medics providing health and lieutenants giving ammo? That was sooo cool, this forces the team to play as a team. If you're a LT you have plenty of ammo, but you're vulnerable, but if a medic is near you you can be revived AND the medic gets ammo. This really improves the teamplay, might be a good idea for futur games... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedyDonkey 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I Open ASE and pick a nice server. In the Server info i see that there is around 15 players playing, with pings from 9ms to 270ms. I join the server and: Â Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted May 31, 2003 just got off from playing it...ahh..mindless fragging.... finally Activision understood that this kind of game should be given out for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 Is this version still with the medics providing health and lieutenants giving ammo? Â That was sooo cool, this forces the team to play as a team. Â If you're a LT you have plenty of ammo, but you're vulnerable, but if a medic is near you you can be revived AND the medic gets ammo.This really improves the teamplay, might be a good idea for futur games... If I remember right you can be a medic and (if I remember right) an engineer, engineers giving out the ammo. the best part is that you get "experience points" for helping people like that and can get bonuses like a faster reload time, stuff like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLF 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I kinda liked RTCW, only part that really irritated me is the bad accuracy of those weapons and the fact that you need to hit someone A LOT before they die. Â Of course if you shoot'm in the head they'll die faster but i find it pretty hard to aim for the head in this game. Â This game'd be a lot cooler if the HP would be 50 - 70, 50 for soldiers, medics 70. This way i'd have a lot more fun playing it. Â The realism is just not good enough, Â i don't really mind the accuracy thing but the damage system needs to change. Maybe it'd be interesting to make a realism and non realism MP... erm Not every game has to be realistic, i like the fact that fire fights last longer in this game, also AI is a very hard thing to do i mean OFP AI is nothing good about it, they just follow waypoints and the rest of the team Follow the leader and can be set to modes of agression and movement (nothing new), And Ralph if you dont like a bit of Mindless fragging then dont play it, no need to bellitle the efforts of a Dev team, its good they released it free unlike other Devs who basically release patches as brand new games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted May 31, 2003 the game will have an sdk so its gona be modable, and its not mindless fragging, less so than team vs team ofp in a way because, u have classes and objectives, u cant win the game as a med but if u support ur neers as medic u can, but u cant do that with out ammo from a lt, and u cant get to some places without a covert ops. Its the mindless fraggers that piss me off when they arnt helping the team complete the objective like on rail gun we hav eabout 5 guys helping get the train to the depo when the other half r playing on the rail gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted May 31, 2003 heres sum more screenies http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/images....-01.jpg http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/images....-01.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted June 1, 2003 I kinda liked RTCW, only part that really irritated me is the bad accuracy of those weapons and the fact that you need to hit someone A LOT before they die. Â Of course if you shoot'm in the head they'll die faster but i find it pretty hard to aim for the head in this game. Â This game'd be a lot cooler if the HP would be 50 - 70, 50 for soldiers, medics 70. This way i'd have a lot more fun playing it. Â The realism is just not good enough, Â i don't really mind the accuracy thing but the damage system needs to change. Maybe it'd be interesting to make a realism and non realism MP... erm Not every game has to be realistic, i like the fact that fire fights last longer in this game, also AI is a very hard thing to do i mean OFP AI is nothing good about it, they just follow waypoints and the rest of the team Follow the leader and can be set to modes of agression and movement (nothing new), And Ralph if you dont like a bit of Mindless fragging then dont play it, no need to bellitle the efforts of a Dev team, its good they released it free unlike other Devs who basically release patches as brand new games. I like realism, but not too much of it... That doesn't mean that i don't like non realistic games, i've played RTCW for a while and i had good fun playing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted June 1, 2003 ...as a med but if u support ur neers as medic u can, but u cant do that with out ammo from a lt, and u cant get to some places without a covert ops... a covert ops? Is that a new class? What new classes are there? Old ones were medic, lieutenant, engineer, soldier... Are there new ones too? What can they do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted June 1, 2003 theres soldier, medic, engineer, field ops (ammo bearer), and covert ops the thing i like best about this game is the promotion system. i made major last night and i've never felt better about doing good at an online multiplayer game. which brings up another question, is an SP version coming out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLF 0 Posted June 1, 2003 No SP. just like the Inv 44 Demo its a MP game, i think there were going to a be an SP portion of the game as it was going to be retail but its out instead for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted June 1, 2003 theres no sp because sp was canned, and they wernt able to get the bots finshed for cooperative and offline mods hence y the games free. Covert ops can steal uniforms and blow things up with hims remote bombs, with an enemy uniform he can let his team through certian doors or sneak around and blow up small objectives like command posts or on battery a generator that unlocks the back door. All the old classes are there with a few new toys and abilities and a experence system, u do ur classes job well u get better at it, u just fight you get better weapon abilities, you stay alive for long periods of time and give or take dammage you get battle sense which allows you to spot mines at higher levels etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted June 1, 2003 I've got to say that it's awfully damn decent of Id to release this as a free product. As Counterstrike proved, it's possible to drive a community by providing a good game that can be played for free. Now, I havent had a chance to install this thing yet, but in my book free is always good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFG 1 Posted June 2, 2003 just like the Inv 44 Demo Our's is soon, there's is never :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted June 2, 2003 This makes me want to buy a future copy of wolfenstein, just because of that XP system. Plus I love having "Lt." before my name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites