Raining fire down from the heavens.

[IceFire 0]

Ok, I was messing around in the mission editor and was in a really beatiful southern area of Everon.  It is near where that artilery cannon is.

I decided to do some flying in the Mi17 since I rarely fly that thing.

Anyways I was amazed at that things fire power.  It's not my idea of an attack chopper, but man can it put out alot of heat.

So I went and placed SEVERAL russian infantry squads down in some nearby village.  Like 12 or some large amount.

Anyways, I got into the Mi17, and flew way up high and just started firing everything I had into that little village.

After I was all done, I flew down, and landed.

Not a thing survived.

This gave me a similar idea.

The Mi17 is real easy to fly and real stable in the air.  And it has alot of firepower.  

Howabout if it were used as a support firing platform from the air that can be directed by ground units on the ground?

Basically here's my idea.  Have a BlackOp with like a nice lazer pointer.  The lazer could only be seen by the helicopter pilot.

The pilot would not see the lazer beam, but the spot the lazer was hitting.  The lazer dot would be about 1 foot wide in diameter, and would be bright blue, since that would be easy to see.

The pilot could fly extremely high.  So high that he would only see the trees and buildings.  He would see the bright blue dot and a number over the dot stating the distance in yards he is from the dot.

He would be able to put down extremely precise fire on a specific point if he was good enough with it.

An enemy patrol or a few russian soldiers would be talking a walk, and out of nowhere they get blown away by rockets apparenlty raining down from the heavans.  

This would be perfect for Coop games.  Especially if you are using teamspeak or whatnot.

You are sneaking around, and see a convoy of a few trucks and soldiers on a road.  There are too many of them for your squad to take out alone.  You pull out your lazer pointer.  

Your chopper man up in the air sees it and unloads a hail of precise fire on the convoy that he is too high up to even see.  

You don't see your chopper man in his Mi17, but you see the results of the destructive force of him firing down on your dot.

[blackdog~ 0]

I thought you were talking about meteors (who has that script, I want that script! or shells raining down on fire... heh... equally good idea though.

Why not just give the laser designator to an east soldier then the mi17 could drop bombs (lgbs , addmagazine laserguidedbomblauncher, addweapon laserguidedbomblauncher).

[IceFire 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blackdog~ @ April 07 2003,00:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I thought you were talking about meteors (who has that script, I want that script! or shells raining down on fire... heh... equally good idea though.

Why not just give the laser designator to an east soldier then the mi17 could drop bombs (lgbs , addmagazine laserguidedbomblauncher, addweapon laserguidedbomblauncher).<span id='postcolor'>

No no no, that's NOT my idea.

With MY idea one can verbally describe what the target is through teamspeak, the Mi17 pilot can determine how he will fire,a volley of spurts of rockets in an area, one long stream down a road, one precision rocket at a human target etc ...

Plus, the soldier would be able to move the lazer along the ground directing the fire, cutting off those who might try to escape etc...

Remember, we are discussing my idea, not yours.

[blackdog~ 0]

Ah, I get it now. Sorry, wasnt trying to hijack your thread...

[Harnu 0]

You can basically already do this with the LTD... You said describing targets over teamspeak... people already do that. If he's low enough to see a dot 1 foot in diamete... he's probably going to be low enough anyway for him to be seen...

I am not totally sue I understand you Icefire?

[IceFire 0]

No, no you don't understand me at all.

I don't know what an LTD is but what I meant is that the pilot would be so high that he would only be able to make out the forest and buildings. He would be so high that ground units would not be able to see him.

The blue dot could maybe be about 1 yard in diameter.  I think that would be better.

Regardless of the size of the dot, the pilot should see it because it would be VERY bright.  That's how that would work.

The dot is primarily how it would work.  Teamspeak would only be there to help inform the pilot.  

The dot would tell the pilot precisely where he needs to put his rockets.   It's really a very simple concept.

For example.  I spot a few enemy soldiers hiding in some bushes like 200 yards from me in a forest.   They don't see me.

I carefully laze their location even though I am very far away.  Rockets come down and blow them out of the woods.

[IceFire 0]

Ok, I just sortof tested this.

It would work VERY well.

This is what I did.

I placed myself and a whole squad under my command in the mission editor in Everon.

I placed us in the city of Montignac, right next to us an empty Mi17 chopper.

I spread my men out placing them far and wide.

I got into the chopper. Went up to about 700 on the altitude meter.

Was flying around the area. Then I highlighted my men, making those green circles around each one.

When you have your men highlighted you can't see your cross hair in the chopper, so I would look at them carefully at that height and remember where they were just before I switched to my crosshair and let loose with 1 rocket on each man.

Killed all of them that way.

And trust me, those green circles were too big.

This is perfect for a laser to work.

But I think the lazer should be about 5 yards in diameter. That would be ideal especially since that is about the diameter of rocket explosions.

Anyways, try this. I found that if I aimed at any spot at the map, even the size of a man, I could hit it almost anywhere on the map when I was about 800 altitude above Montignac.

Anyways, it would be extremely useful to have this feature. All you need is 1 Mi17 man flying 800 altitude above the island to hit any hard targets you need.

[MarcusJClifford 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (blackdog~ @ April 06 2003,23:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I thought you were talking about meteors (who has that script, I want that script! or shells raining down on fire... heh... equally good idea though.<span id='postcolor'>

I created that meteor script - it was my first play with the drop command when it came out - It was on OFPEC, but when that crashed ages ago it was lost and I didnt have it on my local computer

[RED 0]

I think I might have your script, I will dig around for it.

RED

[IceFire 0]

No no no!   This is MY thread!  MY thread!!

[Milkman 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 07 2003,13:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No no no!   This is MY thread!  MY thread!!<span id='postcolor'>

calm down dude...

Anyways I like your Idea, but I'm now sure how it would be implemented.

[IceFire 0]

Well, the soldier with the lazer beam gun would aim the lazer at a spot.

The Mi17 pilot would then see the spot the lazer is pointing at.

This way the soldier can use some real heavy supporting fire from chopper way up in the sky.

That's how it would be implemented.

Try my test. You will be surprised at how effective this would be if someone designed it.

[sanctuary 19]

Something like what i posted in the OFP photo thread ?

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Welcome to my nightmare, IceFire

For quite a while I've tried to figure out truly effective ways to use CAS in OFP, but ultimately, with the current restrictions, we are restricted to the current practices. Besides, this exists (sort of) already. Get yourself a friend, make yourself a quick MP mission with a BlackOp with a laser designator, an Apache or Warthog LGB (hell, even a Cobra works), and a squad of infantry in the distance. Have the blackop lase the target (make sure it's the ground right in front of the target, as the laser sometimes seems to go right through, and then the laser dot will appear as an enemy target that the aircraft can lock its missiles onto. This can be done from much greater ranges than normal engagements, reducing the danger to the aircraft (though sadly, not the blackop; apparently people get nervous when they see a red dot on their tank). have fun.

[IceFire 0]

Yes, maybe someone can mod this idea of mine into reality.

[peanuckle_00 0]

Sanctuary: damn!

I'm not sure that would come in handy for me in any way though.

[IceFire 0]

Stupid double post.

[IceFire 0]

Peanuckle, you killed my thread.

And you know why? Cause your post made no sense.