hellfish6 7 Posted March 28, 2003 Hi guys The Malvinas mod (the "other" Falklands mod team) has just released a beta demo of their weapons and some of their units. Included are units from the Argentinian Mechanized Infantry, a 105mm recoilless rifle, a truck and British Paras. All have new weapons as well, and there is a small 1x1km section of one of their islands included. Overall, I'm very impressed. Except for a few LOD issues, I haven't found anything wrong. All the weapons look great and have a very nice sound to them. One odd thing, though, which I suppose makes sense, is that the British forces are "East" and Argentinians are "West." It kind of limits you if you want to play with these great British soldiers against Russians. This demo is a very nice suprise. Links: Here Here, too And also here Note: It is an EXE file, which will automatically install the files needed. It operates similar to how Code Blue's demo did, in that it creates a proxy EXE file for OFPR, where it will open the game and implement it's own interface. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Apparently this mod is made from an Argentinian standpoint of view, as east side is normally seen as "the bad guys" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 28, 2003 I know, that's why I said </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One odd thing, though, which I suppose makes sense, is that the British forces are "East" and Argentinians are "West." <span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted March 28, 2003 It would have been better as... Argentina: Resistance Britain : West And then there's also the "what in the hell does that say?" language issue. Overall very good "beta", I really like the island and the artillery piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Mar. 28 2003,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It would have been better as... Argentina: Resistance Britain : West And then there's also the "what in the hell does that say?" language issue. Overall very good "beta", I really like the island and the artillery piece. <span id='postcolor'> Who says West is good east is bad guys that is how you look to it I am happy with it you can play as east too right so you should be happy with what you got and not say British are good people and Argentina bad the makers are Argentinian and for them the Argentinian units are good and British are bad and for British people they say we are good they are bad guys so it wont change play it give bugs to the makers so they fix it and wait for the full MOD it would be nice And when the Falkhlands Mod finish their mod you will play as west side as British units I am no British or a Argentinian I am Duth Everyone say to their enemy's they are the bad guys example the US say the Irak militia are the bad guys and US god guys but Irak people says US bad guys irak good guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted March 28, 2003 1 more thing I agree on the language issue it should be English Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OxPecker 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Possible dumb question time - Can I extract the addon PBOs from the exe so I don't have to run it like a separate game and just use the addons in the normal mission editor along with other addons I already have installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted March 28, 2003 @ExtracTioN I wasnt the one who brought up the "who's bad and who's good" issue with east and west so dont quote me and then rant about that I said what side they should be on to go with other existing addons which have the British as west. If the Argentines are on the Res side, this also allows for them to be whatever they want(I have no idea whose side they really are on to be honest) Normally though the way people have made the sides up, the US and Canada addons are west as are other english speaking countries(like Australia and Britain) so it makes more sense to keep it that way. This is where the Res side comes in, so Argentina arent "East"(which is more for Russia, Korea, China, Yugoslavia etc etc) and it all still works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted March 28, 2003 if you want to play with the addons seperatly you are right but the people that make the MOD it is a MOD a Total Conversion so they have choosen for that nothing to do but if you want to use addons seperatly wait for Project UK Forces or Falkhlands Mod they will be on west side but these addons are this way and it wont be changed sorry m8 I am not the author of this none I am in the team but they told me this they will be stay on east side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Well, total coversions are a bad idea. It's too limiting. And even more so when you have another mod team making the same kind of thing. Now they cant be mixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antichrist 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Another mirror I've noticed a bug with the IM65, there's seems to be the conflict between Colt M1911 and IM65. Sometimes when I reload Colt it is shown as empty and IM 65 starts firing Colt bullets..... So far I didn't notice Colt firing IM65 rockets.... that's a good thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Mar. 28 2003,06:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"East"(which is more for Russia, Korea, China, Yugoslavia etc etc)<span id='postcolor'> *ahem* there are two Koreas! Luckily Korea didn't share the same faith with Vietnam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Well obviously I meant North Korea(I was referring to the pack that was made actually considering I was talking about countries that had addons made...there is no South Korean addon) Everyone's just out to take things the wrong way arent they? EDIT: Thanks for telling me that there are in fact two Koreas, I had thought there was six up until you posted that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oberon3d 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Mar. 28 2003,05:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Normally though the way people have made the sides up, the US and Canada addons are west as are other english speaking countries(like Australia and Britain) so it makes more sense to keep it that way. This is where the Res side comes in, so Argentina arent "East"(which is more for Russia, Korea, China, Yugoslavia etc etc) and it all still works out.<span id='postcolor'> Geographicaly.... Argentina is west...England is East... End of discussion About the language....if they speak spanish and their Flashpoint version is in spanish...why are they going to make it in english?... You know...english is not the only language.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Mar. 28 2003,07:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, total coversions are a bad idea. It's too limiting. And even more so when you have another mod team making the same kind of thing. Now they cant be mixed. <span id='postcolor'> For the past two years we had people asking for total mods. "Where are they" "When is the first total mod coming out" Two years we had to listen to people whining about this, now we finally have a total mod and ppl whine that they dont want them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oberon3d @ Mar. 28 2003,11:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Geographicaly.... Argentina is west...England is East... End of discussion About the language....if they speak spanish and their Flashpoint version is in spanish...why are they going to make it in english?... You know...english is not the only language....<span id='postcolor'> Where do you base your 'geographically' point from? If we use the Greenwich Meridian (0 Degrees Longitude) then about 4/5ths of the UK is west and some parts of London and East Anglia are east, so youre statement isnt wholely accurate, as i could say Egland is west and then go all the way round the world and say Argentinia is East... And they should have followed the unspoken rule in ofp modding and put all 'Western' (ie NATO members or just primarily western countries) on West, and the rest on East, or on Rsistance if they need to fight both East and West. And on the topic of good guys and bad guys, i think there is no doubt that in the Falklands Conflict that the Argentinians were the 'Bad Guys', they invaded a country only to try and save their own failing junta regime, the people on that island want to be under british control no matter how much the Argentinians call it the 'Malvina's'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oberon3d @ Mar. 28 2003,11:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Geographicaly.... Argentina is west...England is East... End of discussion About the language....if they speak spanish and their Flashpoint version is in spanish...why are they going to make it in english?... You know...english is not the only language....<span id='postcolor'> yeah and if you are in japan russia is west and the us east. its not a geo question. Its about having units interact with other units made. And as someone else said if they didnt wanted argentina to placed as a east country they could place it in resistance. But the british forces belong under west. Also i would think that the guys behind the Malvinas project would be happy if people choose to use there units in other missions campaigns when thinking about the time the used on them. But by putting the british forces in east they have more or less removed the use of the british forces in other missions. Also about language. Again if they want more people to be able to use it, it should be in english, since that the language most people here can understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Ash- 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Eviscerator @ Mar. 28 2003,12:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And on the topic of good guys and bad guys, i think there is no doubt that in the Falklands Conflict that the Argentinians were the 'Bad Guys', they invaded a country only to try and save their own failing junta regime, the people on that island want to be under british control no matter how much the Argentinians call it the 'Malvina's'.<span id='postcolor'> Can and worms spring to mind here! Well said though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tankieboy 0 Posted March 28, 2003 I was a British Soldier for ten years so I will never have the same point of view as the Argentinians. I have served with Argentinians in Cyprus under the UN and they are a good bunch of guys. My father was also in the conflict as a Medic in the RAMC, so I cant see me downloading this Mod. I am happy to use the addons if they are posted up but if the brits are East then whats the point unless someone changes them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Well apart from this slight hickup (do i have to mention) the addons are actully quite good i'll like to coimmend Malvins on their excellent work BRAVO. Can't wait for the full version P.S. Its good that there are 2 different mods working on the same campaign because they compete against each other and we know we are getting the best addon out because of the compition involved. So later i can play addons where i can play malvin's british(east) are against falkland's british(west). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ Mar. 28 2003,06:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if you want to play with the addons seperatly you are right but the people that make the MOD it is a MOD a Total Conversion so they have choosen for that nothing to do but if you want to use addons seperatly wait for Project UK Forces or Falkhlands Mod they will be on west side but these addons are this way and it wont be changed sorry m8 I am not the author of this none I am in the team but they told me this they will be stay on east side  <span id='postcolor'> While we're on the topic of language : Why don't you EVER use punctuation?!It makes it so hard to understand what you're saying.Don't Dutch people sue pinctuation?                                    hehe..."Oops" comes to mind.Obviously that is meant to say "use" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oberon3d 0 Posted March 28, 2003 well...I'm actually making the BRITISH Wessex "for the Falklands Mod"....but I understand that if the Malvinas MOD makes something it's because they want to do it.... Probably they don't care about what side people thinks Argentina should be...they put it were they think it should be. And for Argentina England is in the East and Argentina in the center of the World. Argentina in my humble opinion is a member of the west block of the world even when they have that war against england. The same happens now with germany. About the language...They probably do a MOD however they like it and as I said not because most of the people speaks english they have to do it in english too... Sorry to be so controversial but I think that MOD makers deserve more respect for whatever they do. Well if invading other country to save your own failing Goverment is done by bad guys...and bad guys are in the East block....that means that USA is in the East now and so England as USA allied ...so if UK is in the East....Argentina is in the West again.... Next controverse.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted March 28, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Geographicaly.... Argentina is west...England is East... End of discussion <span id='postcolor'> I mentioned certain countries and who "should" be on the east, west and resistance side for GAMEPLAY reasons only. It could not have been more clear. I also mentioned Australia as being in the west so... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the past two years we had people asking for total mods. "Where are they" "When is the first total mod coming out" Two years we had to listen to people whining about this, now we finally have a total mod and ppl whine that they dont want them<span id='postcolor'> um....what? There are a few issues raised about combatibility, it's not a big deal. All addons and mods are subject to some critisism. This is what makes them better. I also complimented the mod on some things so whats your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pzvg 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Ya know, I could care less about all that crap, <especially the political statements made by friggin' civvies> But I'm not downloading this beta. Look, your units look good, and some of your weapons are interesting, but in case you weren't paying attention, We had a poll here about which format was preferred, .exe came in dead last, Let me put it another way, if you make your final release .exe, KEEP IT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted March 28, 2003 For myself, I've only got a limited amount of disk space, so anything I download has to be multi-purpose. 9 times out of 10 British troops would be taking the field as part of a NATO force. I'll wait for the Falklands Mod to finish doing their thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
