PiNs_Da_Smoka 0 Posted February 6, 2003 So, i'm sitting here cruising FARK.com, and i stumble upon an interesting link. Check out this doozy of an article. Its about an invisibility cloak. Yes, truly a device which allows to be seen through. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The picture on the coat is made by a viewfinder which puts together the moving images which are behind the wearer. <span id='postcolor'> I couldn't say exactly what and how that works, but the point is, it works. Could this be some wierd, spacey step into military future? I do ya think it may be restricted to such things, as the article said, to give to surgeons so they can see through their hands and such stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 6, 2003 Bloody cool  </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The photograph was taken through a viewfinder that uses a combination of moving images taken behind the wearer to give a transparent effect. <span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Knight 0 Posted February 6, 2003 thats fake for sure.... if it was real, then it would be all around the news! Do you really think the people in the background would just act as if nothing was going on??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesia 0 Posted February 6, 2003 The BBC kids news program wouldn't lie. I beleive that the japanese can make that. Thats what they're developing with tanks aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Feb. 06 2003,15:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The photograph was taken through a <span style='color:red'>viewfinder</span> that uses a combination of moving images <span style='color:red'>taken behind the wearer</span> to give a transparent effect. <span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'> Look closely Ok ok, it looks great, I don't see this becoming an actual "cloaking device". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted February 6, 2003 Please refrain from using profanity in thread titles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted February 6, 2003 So it's not really making anyone "Invisible". Just putting images onto the front of whats behind them. Still pretty cool tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted February 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Feb. 06 2003,23:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Please refrain from using profanity in thread titles <span id='postcolor'> Forum Wars: The Placebo Strikes Back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted February 7, 2003 its so simple to make a bloody cloaking device all u get need to do is make a flexible tft,lcd screen etc and have miniture camera or elemnts of a camera built into the screen then u have a sort of cloaking effect the other would be to bend any light particles around u ffs !! another one of the ideas i`ve thought of being done elsewhere, i wonder if theres some sort of higher lifeform whos sole job is to piss me off as much as possible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shabadu 0 Posted February 7, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Feb. 07 2003,01:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">its so simple to make a bloody cloaking device all u get need to do is make a flexible tft,lcd screen etc and have miniture camera or elemnts of a camera built into the screen then u have a sort of cloaking effect the other would be to bend any light particles around u ffs !! another one of the ideas i`ve thought of being done elsewhere, i wonder if theres some sort of higher lifeform whos sole job is to piss me off as much as possible  <span id='postcolor'> No dout someone is trying to make that work right now. But it'd be bloody hard to display exactly the right image across all parts of the display at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted February 7, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This should help people like surgeons who would like to be able to see through their hands when they are operating.<span id='postcolor'> Hey... I could use some invisible hands too, for when I'm operating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiNs_Da_Smoka 0 Posted February 7, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bernadotte @ Feb. 07 2003,01:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey... I could use some invisible hands too, for when I'm operating. <span id='postcolor'> LOL And wtf is Showaddywaddy!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shabadu 0 Posted February 7, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PiNs_Da_Smoka @ Feb. 07 2003,01:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And wtf is Showaddywaddy!? <span id='postcolor'> ROFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted February 7, 2003 the question is, is that cloaking effective? if you have a camera that is behind an object and grabs the image and projects to itself, will the camera be able to grab images from all angles of the back? and be able to project it accordingly? in picture, the guy is holding his arm up, and images behind him are projected. however, if you see the guy from 60 degrees to the right, the image won't be so much of "cloak" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 7, 2003 Exactly as Ralph points out the problem is how to get it to work from all angles. I know for optical tank camo they use a diffractive piezo crystal with a higly segmented lattice. It makes it possible to have multiple angles for each point. Each such point contains a micro camera and some form of crystal emitter (similar to an LCD crystal, I would think). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted February 7, 2003 All that stuff sounds pretty delicate- and besides, what effect would this kind of cloaking have on infrared spectrums of vision? Because that is what most tankers (at least in the US) rely on in general for target detection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted February 7, 2003 Metal Gear Solid anyone? lol imagine the invisible japanese army, invisible tanks, choppers etc... every enemy soldiers will have to carry IR goggles to see the japanese army Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted February 7, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ Feb. 07 2003,15:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Metal Gear Solid anyone? lol imagine the invisible japanese army, invisible tanks, choppers etc... every enemy soldiers will have to carry IR goggles to see the japanese army<span id='postcolor'> You mean the Japanese Self-Defense Force? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TU--33ker 0 Posted February 7, 2003 i wouldn't say it's a cloaking device. but this can be considered as a new way of camoflage for SF who operate in jungle or woods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted February 7, 2003 It might work well for large navy ships that would merely have to display a likeness to sea meeting sky and would not be so directionally sensitive. Don't Exocet-like missiles operate using visual references? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted February 7, 2003 Think of normal clothes -lots of crinkles. Nearly impossible to detect what LED-part has to show what mikro camera input... Better: solid surfaces like tank armour. Best: 360°-cameras + 360°-projectors; that creates a holographic sphere around you; doesn't depend on object surface direction. Problem: projector not yet available. (Physicists, think of remote creation of photons. But you have to bypass Heisenberg! ;-)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiNs_Da_Smoka 0 Posted February 7, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (der bastler @ Feb. 07 2003,19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(Physicists, think of remote creation of photons. But you have to bypass Heisenberg! ;-))<span id='postcolor'> Can i just remind you that you're in an OFP forum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted February 7, 2003 My clothes allready reflect my environment. I am Mr. stain and after a busy day you can trace back from my clothes where I have been. People used to make fun of me because I always got stains on my suit right on the day it came out of dry cleaning. Of course my clothes adapt to all the countries I have been to. In switzerland I got mainly chocolate and racelette stains and In asia I mainly had stains from soya sauce. Now in Malta I guess it is green spots from seaweed and oil from repairing my car (shitty roads) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted February 8, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PiNs_Da_Smoka @ Feb. 07 2003,22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (der bastler @ Feb. 07 2003,19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(Physicists, think of remote creation of photons. But you have to bypass Heisenberg! ;-))<span id='postcolor'> Can i just remind you that you're in an OFP forum? <span id='postcolor'> Well, let's continue with stuff like that... something's off-off-topic -> it's finally on-topic? (Yes, I know I shall not use no double negations) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Necromancer- 0 Posted February 8, 2003 Hmn.. Imagine Cloakable Tanks in OFP. **Hey where does that cloud of dust come from??** *SPLAT!* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
