FSPilot 0 Posted February 9, 2003 It's just that the other 30% tends to flock together and rally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 9, 2003 I just saw an interesting letter to the editor in a magazine. Why doesn't the US enter into an economic deal, where they buy up for hard cash everything NK has to export, including arms (and paper lanterns? ) in exchange for denuclearization and further economic influence and assistance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted February 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Feb. 09 2003,08:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just saw an interesting letter to the editor in a magazine. Why doesn't the US enter into an economic deal, where they buy up for hard cash everything NK has to export, including arms (and paper lanterns? ) in exchange for denuclearization and further economic influence and assistance?<span id='postcolor'> LOL. My roomie suggested this for Iraq as well, but in more of a 'Why doesnt the US take all of the money they are going to spend on the military (wages, deployment, upkeep, all those smart bombs and cruise missiles, casualties, destroyed hardware) and just buy off every single man woman and child in Iraq?' sort of way. As for North Korea, that wouldnt work because the entrenched ruling class would be dispossesed of their power if that should ever happen. Â Saddam got to where he is through ruthlessness and seizing of pow. Â Kim Jong Il got there through inheritance. Â The dictatorship in NK is far more entrenched than Saddam is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted February 9, 2003 We already gave them nukes so they wouldn't... build nukes. Way to go Clinton administration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Feb. 09 2003,10:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We already gave them nukes so they wouldn't... build nukes. Way to go Clinton administration. <span id='postcolor'> Maybe the US should give them more nukes so that they'll blow up the nukes they already have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted February 9, 2003 Lol, well give us 2 years so we can elect a democrat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted February 9, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Feb. 07 2003,13:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">time can heal many wounds. Look at eastern germany or better USSR and China. I am convinced that if we keep the north Corean in a cold war then sooner or later we will succeed. Their government will have to adapt to the rules of globalisation otherwise face great bankruptcy (if it hasnt allready). Â Their percentage of investment into military will not be financable in the near future and I am sure that their government will break apart one day (even without a revolution by its people). Corean politicians start barking because they are aware of their secure way of going down<span id='postcolor'> The problem with that is what if they decide to increase their income by selling components of nuclear technology, or even nuclear technology itself to whomever has the money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted February 9, 2003 THat was just a preposition! Anyway I think the strongest american force is and always be Coca Cola and McDonalds. They have conquered and westernised more nations than an army ever could! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted February 10, 2003 The FBI, CIA and sundry journalists have concentrated in North Korea's apparently thriving arms trade, and discovered a global enterprise. The North Koreans have been very secretive about this business, and for good reason. Egypt has been an active partner with North Korea for some two decades, sharing missile building technology. None of this has progressed much behind the primitive (by today's standards) liquid fueled SCUD type ballistic missiles. North Korea, Egypt, Pakistan, China have all been involved in a convoluted trade of missile technology.  Japanese defense analysts believe North Korea is ready to test it's Taepodong 2 missile later this year. This missile might have a range of up to 6,000 kilometers, enabling it to reach the west coast of the United States. In 1998, North Korea scared the Japanese when they test fired a Taepodong 1 missile by firing it over Japan and into the Pacific ocean. The Taepodong 1  has a range of 2500 kilometers and appears to have a fairly primitive guidance system. With an improved guidance system, the Taepodong 2 could probably hit a major metropolitan area, like Seattle, with a nuclear weapon. However, engineering such a guidance system, and the electronic systems needed to achieve an successful nuclear detonation at the other end, is difficult. So far, North Korea has not even tested  a nuclear weapon, so they are not sure their nuclear weapon design will work, and to what extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Die Alive 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Feb. 10 2003,10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With an improved guidance system, the Taepodong 2 could probably hit a major metropolitan area, like Seattle, with a nuclear weapon.<span id='postcolor'> Hey, doesn't Bill Gates live around Seattle? Goes off to find a used guidance thingy on EBay. Does Fed Ex ship to NK? -=Die Alive=- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloney 0 Posted February 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Feb. 10 2003,17:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Feb. 10 2003,10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With an improved guidance system, the Taepodong 2 could probably hit a major metropolitan area, like Seattle, with a nuclear weapon.<span id='postcolor'> Hey, doesn't Bill Gates live around Seattle? Goes off to find a used guidance thingy on EBay. Does Fed Ex ship to NK? -=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'> /me searches through the radioactive ruins of what was once seattle and finds pieces of the missles guidance system. Cloney sees a small silver sticker, brushing off, its says "Powered by Windows XP" *prances around the ruins of the Microsoft Campus* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanuckle_00 0 Posted February 11, 2003 Lol you guys have hilarious imaginations. But in response to avon lady saying </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">theavonlady OFP Spam Mom <http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/team_icons/vip.gif> Group: VIP Posts: 6853 Joined: July 2001 Posted: Feb. 09 2003,12:13 I just saw an interesting letter to the editor in a magazine. Why doesn't the US enter into an economic deal, where they buy up for hard cash everything NK has to export, including arms (and paper lanterns? [] ) in exchange for denuclearization and further economic influence and assistance? <span id='postcolor'> Former President Clinton had a better plan than paying for disarmament. He proposed offering survival aid for their people in exchange for disarmament. Now survival aid and assistance rather than shelling out cash to get what you want is alot cheaper. All we gotta do is set up a broad campaign to teach the people how to use their land, send them some food, get the people prospering on their own and able to care for themselves. We'll have helped their civilization prosper and they'll like us for that. I think they'd appreciate that more than money. Not to say that we shouldn't buy what North Korea has to offer but I think that a money style of negotiation would lead America down the wrong path. The goal is for both sides to get what they want. We (America) want NK to not become a nuclear weapons base and North Korea I'm sure wants their people to survive and their culture to prosper and survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted February 11, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">North Korea I'm sure wants their people to survive and their culture to prosper and survive.<span id='postcolor'> ack! I doubt it. He's starving his people so he can have a well-fed military so he can continue to talk trash while still scaring the South Koreans. If I remember correctly, I may be wrong, the Clinton administration ended up giving North Korea nuclear materials when they agreed not to develop weapons with them. We were also giving them aid, which apparently ended up in the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted February 11, 2003 "If I remember correctly, I may be wrong, the Clinton administration ended up giving North Korea nuclear materials when they agreed not to develop weapons with them. We were also giving them aid, which apparently ended up in the military." And this should be news? Its not the first administration to aid organisations or governments that later turned on the US. Its not the last either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted February 12, 2003 Ah, NK is just jealous about Iraq! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted February 12, 2003 NK a big threat after all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted February 12, 2003 But don't you all remember when, a few years ago, North Korea tested a long-range missile that flew right over Israel. Umm... hang on... my mistake... Â It flew over Japan. Ok... Nevermind. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 12, 2003 North Korea has a ballistic missile capable of hitting the West Coast of the United States Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted February 12, 2003 NOW North Korea's in trouble! I'm sure they're shaking in their boots. Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interstat 0 Posted February 12, 2003 Hmmm... I wonder if America or the international would attack North Korea? Possible Nuclear war isn't a good thing, Bush and Rumsfeld are as subtle as a bull in a china shop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted February 13, 2003 Scary, ain't it? I just hope the barking dog doesn't bite. It was quite amusing hearing the North Koreans make such a fuss about the worst James Bond -movie ever made! Imagine the canadians getting pissed off by the South Park movie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Necromancer- 0 Posted February 13, 2003 i bet the international would attack North Korea. What North Korea does is just completely unlogical and especially unwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interstat 0 Posted February 13, 2003 Well Mushroom clouds could be a pleaseant surprise to watch when I eat my toast in the morning on TV, before opening my door and seeing the white flash of man's god machine exploding!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted February 13, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (interstat @ Feb. 12 2003,12:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmm... I wonder if America or the international would attack North Korea? Possible Nuclear war isn't a good thing, Bush and Rumsfeld are as subtle as a bull in a china shop<span id='postcolor'> Japan threatens force against North Korea The plot thickens... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
