PHVNTOMLORD 2 Posted January 25, 2021 Hi, I've been playing Vigor for a couple of weeks now, and I've been having a blast with it. I'm enjoying it so much I wanted to do something I don't do, and try to voice my opinions and concerns for the future of Vigor directly to the devs. The first thing I wanted to address is the major changes coming to the game with season 7. Firstly, timed safe and locked container. These are set to be removed in S7 and I'm sure you guys are aware that a lot of the community doesn't want to see them go. Having multiple loot events and multiple exits allowing you to choose different approaches every game is part of what makes Vigor so fun. I know they will still be available through upgrading loot in pre-game lobbies, but please hear me when I say that this won't work. I could count on one hand the number of times I've seen loot or the crate actually get upgraded in a lobby, and I've played over 60 encounters. The simple fact is no one wants to spend their crowns on that. I'm guessing that most likely you guys see this change as a way to sell more crowns, which I understand. It's a free game you guys have to make your money somehow.. but as I said no one upgrades loot in lobbies, so that wouldn't really work, AND there are so many other ways that you guys could sell more crowns without taking away things that no one wants to see go. Like maybe shelter customizations; furniture presets, pets, and different color schemes. I'd definitely pay for those.. or just shower us with more cosmetics, as it's a small selection currently. Things like that. I also wanted to bring up locked exits and the camper mortar system. So I haven't been able to find much info on this, but apparently some (or all) exits are going to be locked and will require so many materials before leaving. I along with some of the community feel this is too drastic of a change and one that won't benefit gameplay at all. First and foremost because there's no leave game option. There have been plenty of games I've spawned into and immediately either (A) had severe server connection issues and had no choice but to go straight to the exit, or (B) had something urgent IRL to attend to and again had to leave immediately. This new mechanic would completely negate the ability to leave when things like that occur, and so the player would just be screwed. Secondly, sometimes you have a bad streak of games and want to just go in and grab a little bit, maybe snag one kill and then get out to boost your confidence back up, this would again negate that ability. And it's not like people could do this to farm XP, you earn virtually nothing for quick games like that. And lastly on the exits, having the freedom to leave whenever you want is simply just one of the coolest aspects of this game. It's unique and doesn't feel cheap, being that it's very easy to get gunned down on your way out, but then even that doesn't feel cheap because of the crows indicator at the exits. It's just perfectly balanced as is to me. Not to mention that locked exits would just be furthering similarities between this game and Escape From Tarkov, and I don't want to see this game labeled as "just a clone" by people who haven't played it, because it has the potential to be so much more. Lastly I just want to mention the camper mortar system. There's basically no info on how this is going to work yet, but regardless of the specifics, it's just seems like a bad idea. Let me preface this by saying I am definitely against camping, and by camping I mean sitting in one spot almost the entire length of the game. The thing is though is I've genuinely never encountered actual campers in Vigor, and I'm pretty sure that because they don't really exist. The community of this game is great, far separated from the likes of the CoD or Fortnite community, and I think the people you've had crying about campers have actually been just that, people who came from communities like those. I've seen this happen multiple times, people who don't understand that the person that just killed them hadn't been sitting there for 20 minutes waiting for them.. they simply just heard your footsteps and got into position to ambush you, something almost everyone does. So I don't think this "camper problem" is near as bad as you guys believe it to be. Furthermore this mortar system seems like a catalyst for some very unfair deaths if someone is doing just that, waiting to ambush someone they hear coming, or stuck behind cover in a stand off because you both heard/saw each other and know exactly where the other is hiding, something that happens frequently. I could go on about why this system is a bad idea and why I've already seen a lot of negative responses to the idea, but this post is long enough lol. So in closing, I feel as though the immediate future of the game should focus on ironing out the bugs and connection issues it currently faces, and implementing smaller things to bring more life to the game like more customization of the shelter and ourselves... rather than adding/removing things that so drastically shift the dynamic of the gameplay. The formula we have currently in season 6 is honestly perfect and A LOT of people have been saying this. No one would be upset if the core gameplay elements we currently have, stay exactly how they are. Thank you for taking the time to read this post that got way longer than I intended, and I really hope that the devs will see and consider what I've said. Even if it's too late to change these things by the release of S7, I hope you will take this feedback into consideration for future updates. -PHVNTOMLORD 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingm4k3r1 18 Posted January 25, 2021 Campers dont exist in this game, surely that was tongue in cheek🤔 try opening a locked container. Tbh thats the best moment for me though, will i leave with full bag or no head. I cant see how the locked exits gonna benefit anyone but the bigger players who are only in it for kills 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHVNTOMLORD 2 Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kingm4k3r1 said: Campers dont exist in this game, surely that was tongue in cheek🤔 try opening a locked container. Tbh thats the best moment for me though, will i leave with full bag or no head. I cant see how the locked exits gonna benefit anyone but the bigger players who are only in it for kills Yeah it was definitely more of a tongue in cheek statement lol. I'm not saying they don't exist, but compared to other games they're way less frequent... and like you said that's part of the fun, unlocking padlocks at the speed of light hoping your head doesn't become part of the loot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Aiken 132 Posted January 26, 2021 Regarding the leave game option if this is accurate, not checked any patch notes yet but I think the locked exits thing is either an addition on top of existing exits or something to stop people spamming quick exits. Be this I mean for example when you get a challenge to safely leave encounters, I typically went in and left straight away or after picking only a few things up. Not heard anything about camping mortars, seems cruel in theory but again not heard about this. Not heard about the removal of timed safe or container but this seems like a move to limit exp gain maybe? Perhaps it was only ever temporary to allow newer players a chance to earn good weapons easily. Who can say for sure? Be interesting to hear more about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingm4k3r1 18 Posted January 26, 2021 This all sounds like its geared towards helping the bigger players and the rest of us are just fodder for them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwenchlan 40 Posted January 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kingm4k3r1 said: This all sounds like its geared towards helping the bigger players and the rest of us are just fodder for them? Big players are not really concerned with those new changes. These changes are going to dig deep the new players. This game is already hard to understand for newbies, and yes, they often hide in the bushes trying to save their poor loots. Which already compensated with the portable signal detector. "big players" often takes 3 to 10 of them , quite enought to prevent kills with camper noobs. The real big deal, is that there is nothing new in the shelter... Some players finished it a year ago. With a finished shelter, vigor become a sensless game, letting to you only hunting people on maps to have any goal. If there is nothing new in the next season, I'll consider that this game is done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingm4k3r1 18 Posted January 26, 2021 Big players have clearly ordered the devs to do this or theyll take the money elsewhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwenchlan 40 Posted January 26, 2021 Come on, go take a look into the stats of "big players". Most of them doesn't play anymore yet. Haven't played for months this year, I'm still in the top 300 for the airdrops taken... I'm not even sure that there are still more than a thousand players on Xbox. NO ONE asked for those changes. We all want some new things in the shelter just the way PHVNTOMLORD said. I suggested that we could had some sort of cofee machine in the shelter, to have some cafeine. But nothing comes up... It's the same thing for crowns. I have 3500 crowns, and I don't have any idea on how use them. Should I buy a skin for a weapon, while I have dozens of them that I never use ?! And to go further, the only person of bohemia that we have here, is Forsythya. I've never seen a dev coming here to ask some questions. I'm not even sure that anyone reads our suggestions, except forsythia. She's friendly, but probably disarmed in front of the Dev's teams. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am 11'8 4 Posted January 27, 2021 the reason they dont add things to the shelter is that if they do they must wipe everyone's shelter and guns,thats just how the cookie crumbles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Aiken 132 Posted January 27, 2021 No evidence to say adding to the shelter wipes out your stash as they did add that bunker thing with the last season update but yeah i agree I feel it may possibly but coming up to the maximum amount of innovation achieved for the game. Honestly beyond what their already doing adding weapons and cosmetics I don’t what else they could do? Wait and see I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShinigamiEater 10 Posted February 3, 2021 I 100% agree punishing the stealth player is upseting to me i feel this word camping made up there no such thing in real combat as camping you get shot at you hide or die wish they stop try to make it to a crake show vidoe game and stick with what they know its a combat simulator im over video games want something realistic this the only thing iv ever have seen for console that has realize at its bases core no one can snipe with a 45acp from 1200 meters but they try die and cry that they was killed by a stealth player who hunted the cod but down like the dog they are Again No such thing as camping only stealthing if u didn't seen thim that on YOU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
