Hostage situation in stockholm

[iNeo 0]

A Russian speaking man went into a Forex place (money exchange place) at Stockholm Central

(subways, trains, busses) and took 2 women as hostages Saturday around 8.30 pm local time.

A little before 9 pm one of the two women was released, she wasn't hurt, just shocked.

Five minutes to 1 am four heavily armed police men entered the Central.

The man hasn't asked for anything yet, which the police force finds weird, and he took the women

as hostage pretty quick, as if he wasn't there for money.

Big area shut off, lots of police, ambulances, fire trucks, etc.

. http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,244659,00.html

. http://svt.se/svt/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1804&a=49220

. http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/Inrikes/did_4089926.asp

. http://www.dn.se/DNet....rType=6

Haven't got any English links, sorry..

[Guest]

Here is an English link.

Reuters

They are a bit upset here right now, but I hope it will end without bloodshed.

[ralphwiggum 6]

is that MP5 that officers are holding?

damn...and why would someone try to cause this kind of stuff in peaceful city of Stockholme?

[iNeo 0]

And the national, what's it called, special forces (?), are there.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Dec. 29 2002,03:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And the national, what's it called, special forces (?), are there.<span id='postcolor'>

Insatsstrykan. (special police force)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">is that MP5 that officers are holding? <span id='postcolor'>

Yes.

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Dec. 29 2002,03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Dec. 29 2002,03:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And the national, what's it called, special forces (?), are there.<span id='postcolor'>

Insatsstrykan. (special police force)<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah..

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

Oh shit, thats not good

What does he want?

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 29 2002,03:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What does he want?<span id='postcolor'>

He hasn't said that, that's one thing the police thinks is weird.

[Guest]

Fortunately they evacuated the entire building in time, so he got only two hostages (one right now). It would be bad though if he blew up the central station.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

You reckon he has enough explosives to blow up the station

Hope not

Hopefully someone's gonna snipe his ass before he deos somethign stupid

[ralphwiggum 6]

probably someone who is mentally unstable?

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 28 2002,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hopefully someone's gonna snipe his ass before he deos somethign stupid <span id='postcolor'>

The role of the police is not to kill criminals, but to apprehend them for prosecution in a court of law.

Sometimes it becomes necessary to use deadly force to protect the lives of innocents, but so far this guy hasn't made any threats or demands, so it would be premature and irresponsible to take his life.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Dec. 29 2002,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 28 2002,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hopefully someone's gonna snipe his ass before he deos somethign stupid <span id='postcolor'>

The role of the police is not to kill criminals, but to apprehend them for prosecution in a court of law.

Sometimes it becomes necessary to use deadly force to protect the lives of innocents, but so far this guy hasn't made any threats or demands, so it would be premature and irresponsible to take his life.<span id='postcolor'>

He's walking around with explosives around his belly

[iNeo 0]

Nothing new now. Gotta confess I love to see the Swedish national special police force guys..

But the hostage taker seems calm, don't you think? He released an old lady after approx 20 min., he doesn't threat anyone, etc. Although he [claims he] has a bomb attached to his vaist.. Hm.. Dunno...

[iNeo 0]

Is this being broadcasted on the news on tv somewhere else, the US?

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Dec. 28 2002,22:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is this being broadcasted on the news on tv somewhere else, the US?<span id='postcolor'>

Not in Canada... I haven't seen.

[DracoPaladore 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 29 2002,03:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hopefully someone's gonna snipe his ass before he deos somethign stupid <span id='postcolor'>

If they do come to such a decision, and he has explosives, they better hope he dosen't have a dead man's trigger.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 28 2002,19:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Dec. 29 2002,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 28 2002,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hopefully someone's gonna snipe his ass before he deos somethign stupid :(<span id='postcolor'>

The role of the police is not to kill criminals, but to apprehend them for prosecution in a court of law.

Sometimes it becomes necessary to use deadly force to protect the lives of innocents, but so far this guy hasn't made any threats or demands, so it would be premature and irresponsible to take his life.<span id='postcolor'>

He's walking around with explosives around his belly :angry:<span id='postcolor'>

The justified use of deadly force has three prerequisites:

1. Opportunity

2. Ability

3. Intent

Whether any of these requirements are met at this point is debatable.

The most important objective at this point is to secure the safety of the remaining hostage. A secondary objective is to apprehend the suspect. Killing the suspect should only be a worst-case outcome, but never the goal -- not only does that violate all ethical and legal obligations, but it could potentially keep us from learning why the suspect took his actions, and keep us from preventing similar events in the future.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

Taking hostages is bad.

If you are bad, you need ur fingers slapped.

See?

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 28 2002,20:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Taking hostages is bad.

If you are bad, you need ur fingers slapped.

See?<span id='postcolor'>

There's a hell of a difference between getting "ur fingers slapped" and having your brains blown out.

I know you are more level-headed than you appear at the moment. You made a comment that was caused by raw emotions and anger, but that doesn't mean that you have to ride this train-wreck all the way to the bottom of the ravine.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Dec. 29 2002,05:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 28 2002,206)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Taking hostages is bad.

If you are bad, you need ur fingers slapped.

See?<span id='postcolor'>

There's a hell of a difference between getting "ur fingers slapped" and having your brains blown out.

I know you are more level-headed than you appear at the moment. You made a comment that was caused by raw emotions and anger, but that doesn't mean that you have to ride this train-wreck all the way to the bottom of the ravine.<span id='postcolor'>

WTF?

All i need is some sleep and less alc, i have half a bottle of whiskey ni me

so i may not produce the most concise of thougths

but its proper whiskey, proper scottish single malt, that gets u really drunk, not like that bourbon/jd rubbish...although jd can be nice...esp with coke!!

[Guest]

The situation has been resolved. The hostage taker released the last hostage and surrendered peacefully.

[SpeedyDonkey 0]

yea and he didnt have any explosives at all   I belive it was a failed robbery and once the cops where there all he prolly asked for was to not be deported to a russian prison and he he didnt ask for political stuff or money as far as i know

[Othin 0]

Ok, glad this is over. I was worried this was the bank place that my Forty Million dollars from Nigeria was being stored at just waiting for my pickup after I fax over my social security card and a blank check.

Seriously though, it's good to see the situation resolved like this.

[PiNs_Da_Smoka 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Dec. 30 2002,03:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, glad this is over.  I was worried this was the bank place that my Forty Million dollars from Nigeria was being stored at just waiting for my pickup after I fax over my social security card and a blank check<span id='postcolor'>

Didn't i read that on SomethingAwful?

On Topic:

Someone was telling me about this when it was happening. Needless to say i was intrigued, being human and all. Its always good to see things like this end peacefully. And whoever said it before, it does sound like a failed robbery attempt.