Mi26 0.9b

[miles teg 1]

3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([CCCP]Stalker @ Dec. 17 2002,093)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The ramp is not supposed to open. Delete all others Mi26 from your folder. They have the same class name that's why they are conflicting. Have u played the test mission ? There AI lands normally. But when I also tried it just on plain Desert Island AI lands only on middle speed (in the test mission it is low). Strange. But it can't be fixed I think. Why ? Because it is a bug of the game. It don't support big helis.<span id='postcolor'>

Stalker, why is it that Hawk's Mi-26 lands ok?    I think the problem with the AI not landing or hovering properly is dependent on how the mass is distributed on your helicopter. That, I think, is what is making it unstable in the hover mode.  Fixing that might also help resolve the speed problem perhaps as well.  

At any rate, there are some tricks addon makers have used for some of the large cargo aircraft (like the big An-124) that allow them to fly better.  Perhaps some of those tricks can be used to get the Mi-26 to fly better.  

But please don't leave the landing problem as it is, because otherwise it is almost unusable with AI pilots which is how most people are going to use this addon.   If they can't land without crashing most of the time, then the addon is useless except as decoration on bases or for MP games where the players fly the helicopter.  So please don't give up on making it fly (and land) better.  At the very least it should be possible to make it land better like Hawk's Mi-26 addon.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[ExtracTioN 0]

I saw a new version of hawks Mi-26 I haven't dl'ed or tested yet

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ Dec. 18 2002,02:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I saw a new version of hawks Mi-26 I haven't dl'ed or tested yet<span id='postcolor'>

Where did you see it?

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[akm74 1]

exelent addon.

but seem like enemy (ai) vulcan and even ZSU did't even try to engage it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A SA-7 does like 30% damage on it and I believe a sholder fired sam recently shot one of these down in Chechnya<span id='postcolor'>

even after 2 sams hit pilot manage to land it. To sad it was land on minefield around the base and explode some of them.

[ExtracTioN 0]

here is the link of the new Mi-26 from hawk link

[-CCCP-Stalker 0]

The bug about Vulcan and ZSU was found just aafter the release. We'll try to fix it but later. Exams...

[Scorpio 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Goeth[kyllikki] @ Dec. 17 2002,21:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don´t like the flight model. Tooks ages to get it turn.<span id='postcolor'>

i have no problem with flying it. If your'e a good pilot you can get the hang of it. Most large choppers take a long time to turn anyway...

[pzvg 0]

Ok, set in hover at 10 feet AGL, give it a slight forward motion

(1-2 kts) take hands OFF controls, within 1 minute the AC is hitting 90 KIAS and climbing, while adopting a slight lean and pulling off to the right.

Conclusion, I think one of your mass points is out of alignment slightly.

[Mr ThunderMakeR 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pzvg @ Dec. 18 2002,20:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, set in hover at 10 feet AGL, give it a slight forward motion

(1-2 kts) take hands OFF controls, within 1 minute the AC is hitting 90 KIAS and climbing, while adopting a slight lean and pulling off to the right.

Conclusion, I think one of your mass points is out of alignment slightly.<span id='postcolor'>

Id have to agree and I also think this is why the AI is having such a hard time landing the chopper.  Like Scorpio said, a bigger chopper should take a long time to turn.  This one turns VERY quick and it seems to turn on its own too.

[FlipeR 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Goeth[kyllikki]

Gotta try, i tried with keyboard and mouse and it was awful. Yes it´s a big bugger but i think it shouldn´t be worse than chinook imho.<span id='postcolor'>

LOL Goeth It's a lot worse than the Chinook!! The Chinook has an empty weight of 10,578 kg and Max take-off weight of 24,494 kg! Now looking at the Mi-26 chart: 28,100 kg EMPTY(! and ~56000 kg Max take-off weight(!!.

This "big bugger" can transport 20 tons - greatest payload capacity than any other helicopter in the world! The Mi-26 can lift more than twice the payload of an American CH-47 Chinook. Its weightlifting capabilities are more comparable with a C-130 Hercules aircraft...

Is it worse than the Chinook?

@CCCP Stalker: About the problems users and AI are having when flying this "Mishko" - looking at the model I found out that your Geometry LOD is not correctly done - It's not convex! Try applying "component convex hull" again and also lower the gravity center a bit! I would try it myself but I must hurry to school now...

See ya! And keep the good work!

FlipeR

[LightBringer 0]

Hi,

just askin', whats about these helos? Stalker are you plan to make a version, which has openable back door? It would be really nice, because your textures looks really nice..

CU:

LightBringer

...KABOOM!

[Paladin 1]

Hawk made one with opening rear, and side door.  They you can also open the cockpit door from the inside.  But it looks like he used your model and edited it.  The link to the file isnt working right now but here are some pics.

Pic 1

Pic 2

[Major Fubar 0]

I was going to report that the ZU-23 won't target the Mi-26, but I guess that's for the same reason as the Vulcan...

[LightBringer 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paladin @ Dec. 29 2002,03:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hawk made one with opening rear, and side door.  They you can also open the cockpit door from the inside.  But it looks like he used your model and edited it.  The link to the file isnt working right now but here are some pics.

Pic 1

Pic 2<span id='postcolor'>

I know, but this has really ugly textures... Thats why I ask Stalker for a version, with openable doors. Or the other guy should make much better textrures, then we can use his helo.

CU:

LightBringer

...KABOOM!

[Paladin 1]

Not only that I really do think he stole your model stalker.

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paladin @ Dec. 29 2002,17:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not only that I really do think he stole your model stalker.<span id='postcolor'>

he didn't , just compare them

[Paladin 1]

Maybe not but it seems like its the same addon just with the door animations. I mean it has the same problem with it being to easy to turn.

[-CCCP-Stalker 0]

1) I'm not a modeller. Just a project co-leader. Modeller is DPS

2) We will make PK version and version with openable doors but later

3) We also will fix all bug bug in the end of January