How do I make an invisible man that takes gun fire damage?

[jasonb 10]

Hey guys, I'd like to know how to make an invisible man take regular damage? 

You can't set all of the infantry unit to have no texture (face and some clothes still show) and using hideobject true makes them immune to gun fire (but funny enough, not explosions).

I need an invisible man that can take regular damage by guns etc. Anyone know how to do this?

Cheers

[gc8 977]

have you tried _soldier hideObjectGlobal true; 

 

I'm not sure does it take damage after that?

[Tajin 349]

{_unit hideSelection [_x, true]} forEach selectionNames _unit;

Just a wild guess: Maybe it works by hiding all selections instead of hiding the whole unit.

 

I don't think it will, but it's worth a try.

[sarogahtyp 1108]

Idk if it breaks any rules but i dont like that u open the same topics at armaholic and here...

http://www.armaholic.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=35377

Back to topic:

Why do u need that? Maybe there is another way or a workaround...

Edited July 13, 2016 by sarogahtyp

[jasonb 10]

Idk if it breaks any rules but i dont like that u open the same topics at armaholic and here...

http://www.armaholic.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=35377

Back to topic:

Why do u need that? Maybe there is another way or a workaround...

What is wrong with asking both here and there? I'd like to create a Predator mission. An invisible man that stalks his prey on Tanoa. The idea is that one team must use their senses (other than eyes) to kill it. Right now, they cannot even if they directly shoot it. 

 

I created this predator mission a while back for Arma 3. I'd like to give it another crack on Tanoa with some much better scripting.

 

[Grumpy Old Man 3546]

You could try if the hidden unit will still trigger a hit eventhandler when being shot at, and go from there.

Although that's rather unlikely.

 

Cheers

[sarogahtyp 1108]

did u try both hideObject (on each client with remoteExec) and hideObjectGlobal (on server only) ? Maybe there is a difference between both methods.

Another way could be to undress a soldier and then use tajins suggestion because u said some clothes can be seen.

[johnnyboy 3797]

Eventhough you can't kill the hidden man, do you know if the Hit or Damage eventhandlers occur when shot?  If so, you could write your own handler to apply damage when shot.

[mindstorm 8]

I attached an eventhandler to all units to track bullets and then decloack the unit when bullet get near:

var_bullets = [];
{
	if(side _x == west) then
	{
		_firedId = _x addEventHandler ["fired", {
			_this spawn {
				//_this [obj:unit, str:weapon, str:muzzle, str:mode, str:ammo, str:magazine, obj:projectile]
				_bullet = _this select 6;
				var_bullets pushBack _bullet;
				while {alive _bullet} do {sleep 0.1;};
				var_bullets = var_bullets - [_bullet];
			};
		}];
	};
} foreach allUnits;

And then check via the Draw3D if any get close, decloack if they do. 

addMissionEventHandler ["Draw3D", {
    if(isObjectHidden player) then
	{
		{
			if(_x distance player < 2 && _x distance2D player < 0.2) then
			{
				palyer hideObjectGlobal false;
			};	
		} forEach var_bullets ;
	};
}];

I know it's not super fancy and accurate but it's something :). 

 

Ofcourse this does decloack the unit, so I suggest also changing his collor a bit like this for example:

player setObjectTextureGlobal [0,'#(argb,1,1,1)color(0,0,0,0.1,ca)']; 

This requires to remove gear to look fancy though, which again requires a custom damage handler to not mare your 'predator' die within 1 hit.

[Beerkan 71]

The Spelling Bee has seen the above post and removed you from their Christmas card list.

palyer

[jasonb 10]

Hmm. Is there no way to completely retexture a model as nothing? You can do this with a Dog. But not a man? And, also noticed something weird. When I removed my characters clothes, those textures that did change to invisible, changed right back. E.g. I got his legs to be invisible and then removing clothes made his legs visible again. 

[jasonb 10]

did u try both hideObject (on each client with remoteExec) and hideObjectGlobal (on server only) ? Maybe there is a difference between both methods.

Another way could be to undress a soldier and then use tajins suggestion because u said some clothes can be seen.

 

Hide object works fine, it's just that he doesn't take bullet damage when shot at.

[jasonb 10]

Eventhough you can't kill the hidden man, do you know if the Hit or Damage eventhandlers occur when shot?  If so, you could write your own handler to apply damage when shot.

 

I'll look into this, thanks.

[jasonb 10]

{_unit hideSelection [_x, true]} forEach selectionNames _unit;

Just a wild guess: Maybe it works by hiding all selections instead of hiding the whole unit.

 

I don't think it will, but it's worth a try.

 

I don't understand how this works exactly? I put a Blufor Present Trigger over my character and put {Player hideSelection [_x, true]} forEach selectionNames Player; and nothing at all happened? What is this meant to do exactly? Cheers.

[jasonb 10]

You could try if the hidden unit will still trigger a hit eventhandler when being shot at, and go from there.

Although that's rather unlikely.

 

Cheers

 

Just tested it and confirmed it does not work. What about some kind of Trigger or something that detects bullets close by the _unit? Something like Bullet Distance Predator <0.5, Predator setdamage getdamage Predator +0.01    If you get what i mean?

 

 

Do I really need to go to all the trouble to make the player Hide Object True,  spawn a dog in, set it's texture to nothing (because you can), attach it to the Predator, Group it to the Predator, annd when the dog dies the predator goes down with it all over again? ;P  The work arounds are real...

[sarogahtyp 1108]

Hide object works fine, it's just that he doesn't take bullet damage when shot at.

The intention was not to get hideObject work but to test different methods of hiding an object because its possible that damage is handled in a different way...

desciption of tajins solution:

1. selectionNames - returns an array of all selection names of _unit

2. forEach goes through all elements of that array and _x represents the current element.

3. _unit hideSelection [_x, true] - hides the selection with the current selection name (_x) for the object _unit.

this methods ensures that u hide all hidable selection of an object.

Edited July 14, 2016 by sarogahtyp

[mindstorm 8]

Do I really need to go to all the trouble to make the player Hide Object True,  spawn a dog in, set it's texture to nothing (because you can), attach it to the Predator, Group it to the Predator, annd when the dog dies the predator goes down with it all over again? ;P  The work arounds are real...

 

Yes you do. There's no other way unless you want to model your own player model which you can hide with setObjectTexture.

[lexx 1391]

Out of curiosity- is there no way to make a copy of the human VR entity and increase alpha transparency more? In worst case, with a new config class or something?

[mindstorm 8]

Out of curiosity- is there no way to make a copy of the human VR entity and increase alpha transparency more? In worst case, with a new config class or something?

 

Change the 0.1 to 0 for invisible. It doesn't hide everything though (gear, gun).

player setObjectTextureGlobal [0,'#(argb,1,1,1)color(0,0,0,0.1,ca)']; 

[Tajin 349]

Hmm back in the alpha I used setObjectTexture with PiP to project a view of the terrain unter the feet of a unit as camoflage texture.

 

It worked surprisingly well. Consider using that if you want high-tech cloaking instead of magical invisibility. ^^

 

Here is an old screenshot of that.

 

 

Hmm maybe I'll make a new script for it now that those texture selections are more widely available.

[jasonb 10]

Hmm back in the alpha I used setObjectTexture with PiP to project a view of the terrain unter the feet of a unit as camoflage texture.

 

It worked surprisingly well. Consider using that if you want high-tech cloaking instead of magical invisibility. ^^

 

Here is an old screenshot of that.

 

 

Is there a way to texture the face though?

[Tajin 349]

Use a VR entity. I'm pretty sure you can texture those completely.

[sarogahtyp 1108]

@tajin:

could u post how u did that chameleon style cloaking? This is an amazing feature for future soldiers and I th8nk bout implementing it 8n a mission.

I think the best implementation would be to not just project the underground but the background behind the soldier seen from players point of view. So it could be a wall or the heaven as well.

Same projection could be done on vehicles. I think ur idea has great potential. A script snippet would be wonderful.... :)

[Tajin 349]

Interesting idea, never thought about it like that. It may look rather weird though due to texture wrapping.

 

I'm sure I still have it somewhere.

[jasonb 10]

I attached an eventhandler to all units to track bullets and then decloack the unit when bullet get near:

var_bullets = [];
{
	if(side _x == west) then
	{
		_firedId = _x addEventHandler ["fired", {
			_this spawn {
				//_this [obj:unit, str:weapon, str:muzzle, str:mode, str:ammo, str:magazine, obj:projectile]
				_bullet = _this select 6;
				var_bullets pushBack _bullet;
				while {alive _bullet} do {sleep 0.1;};
				var_bullets = var_bullets - [_bullet];
			};
		}];
	};
} foreach allUnits;

And then check via the Draw3D if any get close, decloack if they do. 

addMissionEventHandler ["Draw3D", {
    if(isObjectHidden player) then
	{
		{
			if(_x distance player < 2 && _x distance2D player < 0.2) then
			{
				palyer hideObjectGlobal false;
			};	
		} forEach var_bullets ;
	};
}];

I know it's not super fancy and accurate but it's something :). 

 

Ofcourse this does decloack the unit, so I suggest also changing his collor a bit like this for example:

player setObjectTextureGlobal [0,'#(argb,1,1,1)color(0,0,0,0.1,ca)']; 

This requires to remove gear to look fancy though, which again requires a custom damage handler to not mare your 'predator' die within 1 hit.

Hi mindstorm how can I use this code? Just paste it in the init? I could not get this to work.

 

Also, could the second decloak part of the script be modified so that instead of the predator unit decloaking for a second, it takes damage instead. So, like Predator setdamage {getDamage Predator} +0.01; to simulate the damage done by bullets. Also, instead of applying the damage to all units, how do I just apply it to either all opfor units or a unit names Predator?

 

I believe this code is on the right track to what i'm looking for.

Cheers.