Amd question

[FallenPaladin 0]

I think I`ll get my new Athlon prozessor today in the evening or tomorrow (PLEASE!!! ) , but before I start working on it I have a question:

I ordered a Athlon XP 2000+. After attaching it to the board I have to put a silver cooling liquid onto the core. Then I want to put a copper spacer onto the prozessor before I finish with the cooler on top of it.

Do I have to put cooling liquid onto the copper spacer, too?

I don`t want to barbeque my CPU

[KingBeast 0]

Slam it o nthe processor and the heatsink, wont make it explode or anything It is "coolant" after all

[CosmicCastaway 0]

Not entirely sure, but I don't think it should be necessary. If you use a half decent thermal compound (such as Arctic Silver), you should be fine. I've got an XP2100 without a copper spacer, and it runs perfectly fine. You have to watch it with some spacers though, as poorly manufactured ones can do you more harm than good.

Good luck!

[CosmicCastaway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KingBeast @ Oct. 31 2002,12:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Slam it o nthe processor and the heatsink, wont make it explode or anything It is "coolant" after all  <span id='postcolor'>

Oh, and don't overdo it. Cover the slug only. It's conductive, so watch where you whang it on the motherboard.

[FallenPaladin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CosmicCastaway @ Oct. 31 2002,12:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh, and don't overdo it. Cover the slug only. It's conductive, so watch where you whang it on the motherboard.  <span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, I know. Only onto the core

Thanks, guys!!

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

These addresses may help

http://www.overclockers.co.uk

http://www.theoverclockingstore.co.uk

Make sure to check out their forums

[FallenPaladin 0]

Thanks Ex!!!

[Warin 0]

And dont forget that you only want an ultra thin layer of thermal compound. Basically you are trying to fill in any imperfections or pits between the processor die and the cooler. Too much compound can actually make an insulating barrier, not allowing the processor to cool properly.

[FallenPaladin 0]

Thanks to you, too, Warin!!

Hey, I`m so happy! Finally my old PIII 600 will soon rest in peace

[FallenPaladin 0]

By the way...

... is it possible to play OPF Resistance in highest detail in 1032x768x32 with an Athlon XP 2000+, 512 MB DDR RAM and a Gforce 4 4200?

[RED 0]

Not a chance.

RED

[bn880 5]

Ah i have not read the entire thread, but here is my 2c: Thermal compound aids in heat transfer between the metals... it would be mostly un necessary if all the metals were properly polished ($$$$ but they are not. The point is to get the compound to fill in the mainly microscopic irregularities between the surfaces to transfer heat through the compound not the air in-between.

So: Put the compound on both, but very little. Especially on CPU, if the compound builds up as much as 0.05mm on the side of die, it acts as an insulator...

Coating the CPU is a bit of a problem, the writing AMD put's on the CPU is quite a detriment to cooling as it has some height to it, but try your best to put the MINIMUM compound on.

EDIT: ALso the spacer relieves the pressure put on the die, so if you find that your CPU overheats abnormally, remove spacer and try again.

[FallenPaladin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Oct. 31 2002,20:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ALso the spacer relieves the pressure put on the die, so if you find that your CPU overheats abnormally, remove spacer and try again.  <span id='postcolor'>

Hmm...  

I bought that thing but I was not totally sure if it was necessary. If my cooler fits well onto my processor I think I`ll avoid using the spacer.

Thanks bn  

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @ Oct. 31 2002,20:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Oct. 31 2002,20:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ALso the spacer relieves the pressure put on the die, so if you find that your CPU overheats abnormally, remove spacer and try again.  <span id='postcolor'>

Hmm...  

I bought that thing but I was not totally sure if it was necessary. If my cooler fits well onto my processor I think I`ll avoid using the spacer.

Thanks bn  <span id='postcolor'>

Depending on the cooler you might want to use it

If you have a globalwin hsf, you NEED to use it, otherwise bye bye cpu.

As for others....I wouldn't risk it

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Oct. 31 2002,19:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you have a globalwin hsf, you NEED to use it, otherwise bye bye cpu.

As for others....I wouldn't risk it <span id='postcolor'>

You wouldn't risk it? What do you mean by that?

[FallenPaladin 0]

Just to get the facts right:

A spacer is used to prevent the processor core from damage by an attached cooler. If I have a cooler with a very flat bottom that can`t damage my CPU, it would be better to use no spacer, because the CPU would be better cooled.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

No, ALL heatsinks have a flat bottom

But depending on weight and pressure you apply, you may crush your core or chip it at the very least, which in both cases means bye bye CPU.

A spacer (copper shim is the technical term ) prevents this from happening. Only if you get abnormal temperatures (>60 degrees) would I remove it.

BN880, I mean that I would never risk attaching a heatsink without a copper shim on my CPU, the risk is too great and I can't afford replacing dead CPU's.

[FallenPaladin 0]

Ex, that was an eye-opener!!

[bn880 5]

Ah I C what you mean Ex, I would never use a shim as I have quite a bit of experience inastalling CPU's.

Basically, if you think you are going to mess up while attaching the heatsink, use a spacer... if you are like 99.99% of the population, you are confident and arrogant enough to do it normally.

lol

Install the cooler while board is laying horizontally... not in tower case.

[FallenPaladin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 01 2002,19:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Install the cooler while board is laying horizontally... not in tower case.<span id='postcolor'>

ROFL

Nah, I`m not that kind of rookie, but the last time I installed a CPU was when I changed from my P 200Mhz to my PIII 600Mhz.

[Frisbee 0]

Spacers are useful with heavier heatsinks like a zalman,swiftech or alpha PAL.It stresses the core less.

Also useful for watercooling blocks,they're heavy too.