OntosMk1 0 Posted October 26, 2002 I know that there is a Mig-29 floating out there somewher but the Fulcrum wasnt released until the late 80s. Could someone possibly model say a Mig-27 or and Su-24. We need some Russian fast movers to combat those new Sam systems that where just released. ANyways its just a suggestion. Have fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Kane 0 Posted October 26, 2002 Whats wrong with the Su-25 Frogfoot? Its relatively fast (compared to the A-10 ), carry's powerful ATGM's, and has a large rocket payload. All in all, I think the Su-25 is pretty much all the Ruskies need in terms of an attack plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted October 26, 2002 What we really need is russian choppers, like the KA_60 Kasatka Killer Whale or the Ka-27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesia 0 Posted October 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aaron Kane @ Oct. 26 2002,17:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Whats wrong with the Su-25 Frogfoot? Â Its relatively fast (compared to the A-10 ), carry's powerful ATGM's, and has a large rocket payload. Â All in all, I think the Su-25 is pretty much all the Ruskies need in terms of an attack plane.<span id='postcolor'> If you download the F-14 tomcat, and other planes you will notice they can attack other aircrafts with guided rockets. The SU-25 cannot. Which is why it is an appalling plane in dogfights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted October 26, 2002 The SU-25 is not bad in a dogfight due to its speed and agility, but its lack of AA missiles lets it down. Scorpio's original Mig-29 addon is the only other Russian plane I know of for OFP, and it's not particularly good either as it has very limited AA capabilities and seems to have far too little manoevrability considering it's supposed to be the best dogfighting jet ever created. Compare this to the Western arsenal of F14, F16, Hawk, AMX, Tornado, A10, Bronco and possibly others that I'm forgetting. Imbalanced to say the least. Scorpio recently told me he had finished new versions of his F16 and Mig-29's and was waiting for 1.85 to come out before releasing them, so hopefully he will do so soon. A realistic Mig-29 would be more than a match for most of the Western stuff available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted October 26, 2002 the main problem with the SU-25 is down to ofp's engine, unfortunately it cant have more than one type of detachable missile/bomb so you can have one machinegun/grenade launcher, as many FFAR pods as you want (although they will only appear from two points), and one type of missile/bomb that detaches, i dont think you can plan on this being fixed in any patches i think it would be too much work, so for now the SU-25 is the best, once P3Dedit is released we may be able to get some different loadouts on there (ie LGB's, AT-16's, lots of rockets and some AA) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaptorAce 0 Posted October 26, 2002 i'd like to see a Su-27 or other flanker variant, cuz i dont think the MiG-23/27 or the Su-24 have AA capabilities. the Su-34 would be a good plane to see also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B@ZOOkA 0 Posted October 26, 2002 i d like to see one of those YAK v/stols... maybe a yak 38 and the mig31 or 35 would be great... russian military says that the mig 35 is better than the us F-22... sadly russians have not enough money to buy some mig35 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted October 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (B@ZOOkA @ Oct. 27 2002,00:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">russian military says that the mig 35 is better than the us F-22... sadly russians have not enough money to buy some mig35<span id='postcolor'> How on earth did they manage to afford the research costs for such an advanced aircraft I wonder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaptorAce 0 Posted October 26, 2002 i bet that's just a load of bull, they're just trying to intimidate the U.S., who's F-22 is superior to anything the russians could put out any time soon, plus it's cancelled and is older than the F-22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted October 26, 2002 It wont matter how good it is really numbers win a fight usually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B@ZOOkA 0 Posted October 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RaptorAce @ Oct. 27 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i bet that's just a load of bull, they're just trying to intimidate the U.S., who's F-22 is superior to anything the russians could put out any time soon, plus it's cancelled and is older than the F-22<span id='postcolor'> i wouldnt say so ... its a fact that the mig-31 was the best airplane in the world before the F-22 was developed... the russians were always good ingeneurs... and btw the mig-31 and 35 just look better than that ugly f-22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaptorAce 0 Posted October 27, 2002 dont get me started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted October 27, 2002 Once i have enough guys for my mod i will start having them work on them but i need more guys since i only have 4 right now including me. so if your interested in joining PM me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted October 27, 2002 Er, wrong topic I think Jakerod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fraggit 0 Posted October 27, 2002 More Russian planes would be great. But I really don't use any plane too much except the Tornado. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (B@ZOOkA @ Oct. 26 2002,17:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RaptorAce @ Oct. 27 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i bet that's just a load of bull, they're just trying to intimidate the U.S., who's F-22 is superior to anything the russians could put out any time soon, plus it's cancelled and is older than the F-22<span id='postcolor'> i wouldnt say so ... its a fact that the mig-31 was the best airplane in the world before the F-22 was developed... the russians were always good ingeneurs... and btw the mig-31 and 35 just look better than that ugly f-22 Â Â <span id='postcolor'> You think this plane and this plane are better looking than this one? LOL, OK.... Maybe I'm a bit bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted October 27, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (fraggit @ Oct. 27 2002,05:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">More Russian planes would be great. But I really don't use any plane too much except the Tornado. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (B@ZOOkA @ Oct. 26 2002,17:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RaptorAce @ Oct. 27 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i bet that's just a load of bull, they're just trying to intimidate the U.S., who's F-22 is superior to anything the russians could put out any time soon, plus it's cancelled and is older than the F-22<span id='postcolor'> i wouldnt say so ... its a fact that the mig-31 was the best airplane in the world before the F-22 was developed... the russians were always good ingeneurs... and btw the mig-31 and 35 just look better than that ugly f-22 Â Â <span id='postcolor'> You think this plane and this plane are better looking than this one?<span id='postcolor'> yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaptorAce 0 Posted October 27, 2002 no you're wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted October 27, 2002 you're telling me my personal opinion is wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted October 27, 2002 *sheesh, you flyboys* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
160th(SOAR)LoNeWoLF 0 Posted October 27, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What we really need is russian choppers, like the KA_60 Kasatka Killer Whale or the Ka-27 <span id='postcolor'> AHA! Some1 agrees with me! I want the Kasatka!!!!! planes r awfully boring nowadays, since every1 wants to make 900mph-impossible-to-fly-monstrosites that every1 complains about(Like the F-117) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midway 0 Posted October 27, 2002 ME to i also want the KASATKA its got damn kewl bout time we get a russian chopper that isnt 20 years old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted October 27, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Midway @ Oct. 27 2002,23:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ME to i also want the KASATKA its got damn kewl bout time we get a russian chopper that isnt 20 years old.<span id='postcolor'> The kasatka will enter production in 2003, i love that chopper (since i played MGS2) we need one ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
160th(SOAR)LoNeWoLF 0 Posted October 27, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> i love that chopper (since i played MGS2) we need one !<span id='postcolor'> Ditto. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ME to i also want the KASATKA its got damn kewl bout time we get a russian chopper that isnt 20 years old.<span id='postcolor'> Lol yea i think the east choppers are awwwfffullllyy outdated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites